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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:13 AM
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‘Minutemen’ gear up for mainstream movement
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 11:15 AM by donsu
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8162019/


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(Gilchrist of the nasty mouth said: )

Headlines from the Arizona event gave the group momentum, and turned what some first believed to be nothing more than a publicity stunt into a national movement. The group has since hired lawyers, reorganized into separate corporations, filed to legally protect the name “Minuteman Project,” hired a Washington-based media consultant and started an aggressive fund raising campaign. And, representatives of the group, have been to Washington to lobby Congress and relate the lessons learned from their time on the border.

Unless the work continues “it’s going to be viewed as just a dog-and-pony show,” said James Gilchrist, one of the Minuteman leaders, when the Arizona project wrapped up. He and Simcox, unabashedly acknowledge that among their chief considerations in Arizona was getting media attention.

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One arm is run by Gilchrist, a California accountant, who decided to focus on internal immigration issues, going after employers violating immigration laws by hiring illegals, in an effort now called "Operation Spotlight." His group is known as the Minuteman Project, Inc. which has filed with the Internal Revenue Service to gain status like that given to a trade association.

Meanwhile, Simcox, who runs the Tombstone Tumbleweed newspaper in Arizona, incorporated his group, formerly known as Civil Homeland Defense, as the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, Inc. That group will continue to organize, train and sanction other Minuteman Project border watches, according to Connie Hair, the group’s spokesperson.
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and then there is this:

Border watches are scheduled or are in the planning stages for Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico, Hair said. “Chris is going to Michigan in a couple of weeks to do a training session there,” she said. “But they’ve also got Idaho and Washington State and Vermont interested. In all they’ve had requests from seven states in the north,” and new requests “coming in every day.

Vermont! Vermont wants the Minutemen?! good grief

you just know criminal bushgang money is going into Simcox and Gilchrist's pockets
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:17 AM
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1. Minutemen are the same as the Ku Klux Klan
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Minutemen Show UP In Fallbrook

Froilan Mercado (MUDP Rep) | 06.06.2005 11:47

On June 4, 2005 the minutemen entered the town of Fallbrook early in the morning. There had been no prior warning to their arrival as there was in the previous demonstrations. Their objective; to stop City Bank from allowing their Mexican patrons from using Mexican ID to cash checks or open accounts. They stood on the sidewalk on Main St. next to Denny’s with racist anti-Mexican signs. There were reports that they were intimidating and harassing a disabled Mexican man who was walking down the sidewalk.

MINUTEMEN SHOW UP IN FALLBROOK, CA


Many people call it the tiny little town that time forgot, because of it’s small size and somewhat out of the way location from other urban areas, and the sense it presents that nothing has changed in years: Fallbrook, California is located in North County San Diego, off I-15, just south of the Temecula checkpoint. It is the capital of avocados, which for decades have been picked by, who else, but Mexicans; Mexicans who have been the back bone of the avocado industry by serving as a cheap labor force, subjected to the exposure of cancer causing chemicals, racism and what was referred to as, “Beaner Bashing”(the brutal beating of lone walking Mexicans by gangs of teenage Anglo youths) amongst other unjust and inhumane conditions.

Fallbrook, California is also home to the KKK and Tom Metzker, a Grand Dragon of the white hooded white supremacists. It is also where United Pride (a youth group) and Mexicanos Unidos en Defensa del Pueblo (MUDP) were founded and are based, and have been politicizing and working with the Mexican Community. Where once white supremacists were used to dealing with a humble, timid Mexican community through antagonism, beatings and intimidation, it appears that the sleepy little town of Fallbrook has shown, after all, that it has changed. Gone are the days where Mexicans walked with their heads down not knowing their rights: Gone are the days where Mexicans quietly bared the humiliation. In the quiet little town of Fallbrook a wake up call has come. Not just to the Mexican community which now also consists of first, second, and third generations who have witnessed and lived their parents’ injustices, but also to the white community in general, and more important, the white supremacists who live there.

With the initiation of the minutemen in Arizona comes a new season of attacks on Mexicans, as well as Latin- Americans. Nothing new in a land who’s history has bared witness to the genocide of the North American Indigenous population, the enslavement of the children of Africa and the lynching, exploitation and theft of Mexicans and their land. After Arizona, Save Our State, an Oxnard racist clan hiding behind political rhetoric and laws, feeling re-invigorated by the minutemen, decide they will tear down a monument in Baldwin Park, CA and fail, but succeed in catalyzing the Mexican community when about 800 strong face off against Save Our State. Then came Garden Grove, where a minuteman purposely tries to run over anti-minutemen demonstrators with his van. The police press no charges and instead attack and arrest anti-minutemen demonstrators on various charges, including, attempted murder with a water bottle.

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<link> http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/109180.shtml

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hansberrym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:34 AM
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2. What leads you to think that the bushgang of neocons

and One World Order types would support efforts to heighten publicity on the scope of illegal immigration?







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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:08 PM
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5. the bushgang wants the borders open - the Minutemen are a

convenient cover.

the bushgang recently said they wanted the Can. and Mex. borders open so there would be one north america (which they would be in control of.)

a thread on this ran the other day.
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hansberrym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:08 PM
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8. Yeah, that is why I wondered why you thought the minutemen

were taking money from the bushgang.

"you just know criminal bushgang money is going into Simcox and Gilchrist's pockets"

If anything, I would expect the Neocons to try to discredit the minutemen somehow -paint them as racists, maybe infiltrate and instigate, play the agent provocateur, etc.

The neocons will not allow an open discussion on what they are doing since that would most likely precipitate a backlash (I don't think the majority of americans would go along with a scheme to merge the US with Mexico and Canada unless they were sold a false bill of goods)

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dejaboutique Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:36 AM
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3. someone has to do it
if the gov. won't do it we need grass roots campaigns such as these. illegal means illegal. don't tell me to go back to Europe because I have never been there and I would need a work visa.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:49 AM
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4. Will they get brown shirts and armbands? Or, traditional sheets?
The Training will include:

"The Proper Use of Ropes"
"Gas Chamber Construction Basics"
"Best Materials for Flammable Crosses"
"Lessons in Beercan Crushing"
"Does Caliber Relate to Jock Strap Size?"
"Replacing Cowboy Boots with Jackboots"
"Proper Placement of Confederate Flag Decals"
"Mein Kampf Explained"
"How to Speak German without a Texas Accent"
"How to Armor Plate Your SUV"
"Your Gun. Friend? Or, Lover?"
"How to Talk to Your Wife Using Brass Knuckles"
"Collectable Body Parts"

and many more useful Traditional American Crafts.


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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:12 PM
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6. "Lessons in beer can crushing"
:rofl: Good one.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:27 PM
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7. Sounds like the SA is going national.
For anyone who can't believe, in spite of the evidence that the Minutemen are white supremists affiliated with the Aryan Nation and the Stormfront Organization, let me issue you a challenge. Among all the news photos and other photos put up on this site and other internet sites, see if you can find one African American or Hispanic among them.

In Germany the SA or Sturmabteilung, storm troopers or Brownshirts, were the Nazi Party's own militia or army apart from the other military.

Wanna makes bets that our new national guard is being formed to replace the ones getting killed in Iraq. Does anyone know why the national guard was sent to Iraq instead of the regular army? Could it be because they are mostly minorities now and we can't have racial minorities protecting the rights of white people.

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