Dean Supporters: Latest Poll indicates Dean is electable

[CMT]

One of the things opponents seem to use against Dr. Dean (especially the DLC) is that he is not electable. Well we know that he is and really don't need a poll to prove it. But we do have it. In fact it is the latest CNN poll which has been heavily touted around here.

First, my hat off to Gen. Clark who is actually leading Bush according to this poll by 49-46. My hat off to our other candidates: Kerry, Gep, and (yes) even Lieberman who are also doing well in that poll.

But gang, Howard Dean is right in the thick of things too. Bush is ahead, but among registered voters the Bush margin is only three-points (49-46) a statistical dead heat. At three-points down we know Bush probably is ahead of Dean in the south and Dean is probably ahead of Bush everywhere else.

So while other candidate supporters can claim that they are doing well in the same poll--they cannot claim that Dean is unelectable. The only unelectable candidate as it is getting clear is George Worthless Bush.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-22-bush-poll_x.htm

[AWD]

1. Of course he is...

...disruptors don't try to align others against the unelectable.
...disruptors don't try to pick on every detail of the unelectable.
...disruptors don't desperately try to point out minor changes in the unelectable's campaign (or sports teams)
...disruptors don't try to skew comments to suit their own candidates when the attack is on an unelectable.

[CMT]

2. I've been meaning to ask you

how is your campaign going?

[AWD]

3. Not bad...

...I got sidetracked by a few minor incidents, but I'm back on track.

Currently looking at campaign managers for hire, finally got a full campaign plan together, and I have speaking engagements lined up already.

Fundraising comes next. But it was the DUers who gave me the start I REALLY needed. I was able to afford all the stuff I needed to kick off (business cards, office supplies, webpage fees, etc) and plenty left over for future needs!

Thanks for asking!

[CMT]

9. glad to hear it

This quarter all my $$ is going to Dean, but next quarter i'll remember you too. Let us know where to send it.

[AWD]

12. OK< i will

Trust me, when things get into gear, you'll hear my name mentioned a lot around here.

Almost as much as you'll hear people whining about Dean whooping their candidate's rears.

[Eloriel]

15. That's great!

Sounds like you've got some good mo going there. Hooray! I too will try to donate again next quarter, my measly little pocket change. I want to own a President AND a Congressman. ;-)

Eloriel

[AWD]

16. That money order was wonderful

You'll get a thank you note (later, when the funds are there for it all....hope you understand)

[unfrigginreal]

4. Absolutely agree CMT...

especially when you consider that we've had 2 solid weeks of Clark is electable and Dean is unelectable by the mainstream press.

I see this poll as you do...a good poll for Doctor Dean...with the number of dedicated supporters in his camp, Clark, et al, are really going to have to light some fires to stop Dean. And I hope that proves to be true!

[sandnsea]

5. Here's the poll link

Thanks for the article, here's the poll.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/tables/live/2003-09-22-bush-poll.htm

Kerry 48% - 47% over Bush among registered voters!! Wohoo!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

8. Kerry shown as winning!

Cool!

[HawkerHurricane]

10. Holy Cow!

This is the first poll I've seen showing a Democrat beating Bush in the election!

I'm feeling better all the time.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

14. and notice which one it is.

Thanks for the historical perspective on this HawkerHurricane!

[HawkerHurricane]

17. I noticed which one(s)

The two warriors, Clark and Kerry.
At the very least, one of them should get the VP nod, if not higher.
And yes, I'm showing my prejudice.

[HazMat]

30. Kerry and Clark are electable

It's what everyone in touch with reality has been saying all along. This poll shows that people think Kerry and Clark are the most electable.

Dean, with all of his corporate media hype, still lags in these national (i.e. broad based electorate, not just activists) polls.

Kerry gets spit on by the media and he comes out ahead of Bush.

Welcome to the electable wing of the Democratic party.

This election will be about electing a commander in chief more than anything else. Those who fail to realize this are going down a dangerous path. This country cannot survive 4 more years of Bush. A Dean nomination would be a disaster.

[HawkerHurricane]

32. I wouldn't write Dean off yet.

A little more on message time, a good VP pick, and more blunders by Bush (which will happen) and Dean could take it.

I'm not willing to write off Dean yet.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. before Rove/Atwater tactics are applied it sure looks good

but we won't know that until Nov. 04.

[newsguyatl]

7. thanks for the post cmt, nice work

yes, the results of this poll WERE good news... but something dean folks already knew to be true...

chalk up those 3 extra points for clark due to his military background in our post 9-11, the-enemy-will-get-us country bush has created.



keep up the good fight...

[southern democrat]

11. I'm for Clark but,

I was extremely happy this last poll.You're damn right it shows Dean and Kerry are electable.When you look at it maybe what it really is showing is whitle-ass is the one who's getting un-electable.

If your a Kerry,Clark, or Dean fan it really is a shot in the arm for there supporters.Giving them a energy boost for the next phase.All of the hard work may just be paying off.If we don't turn too hard agianst each other.We may just get a regime change.People keep it up,tell people about Franken's,Connasson's and Hightower's books.Spread the word about Paul Krugman's columns in NY Times.This movement is way more than our pres.candidates,although keep working hard for the ones you each support.

The battle will get even togher now.But I know WE can do it.He can,t do it,she can't do it,you can't do it,I can't do it but together WE can do it!

[CMT]

13. yes

and our grass roots gotv effort (already 400,000 plus strong) will be at least a million by the time the convention ends next year would make a big difference. It will add 3-4 points on election day from a strong ground effort.

[frank frankly]

18. Dean will win if he is the nominee

No doubt about it.

Very good post!

May the best candidate win!

[KittyWampus]

19. Dean Is Definately A Contender!!!

He's pretty darn quick witted... and moderate enough to be acceptable to mainstream Democrats.

He's got a good combination of scrappiness and level-headedness.

[Skwmom]

20. Why I still think that Dean is unelectable:

1. millions of dollars will be used to pay for attack ads in the general election. Deans own words and his trying to pose as a liberal will be used against him.

2. if we have another attack (the type which would be very difficult to prevent) the nation will not put a liberal democrat in charge of national defense. If Dean's the nominee, I'd duck and cover because Bush and Co would stop at nothing to have control of our govt for another 4 years.

[AWD]

22. Nice try

...but he's not a liberal democrat.

But your talking points from Uncle Karl are duly noted.

I suppose the Repugs WON'T use millions of dollars to attack YOUR candidate????

[RetroLounge]

23. Yawn...

all points have been debunked already here on DU.

but (fox) they (fox) do (fox) sound (fox) awful (fox) familiar.

[PAMod]

24. Considering Dean's organization and fund-raising abilities and...

this poll, I'd say Dean is probably the MOST electable of the field.

The Democratic nominee will be attacked without a doubt, but Dean has already shown his ability to hit back quickly and hard.

We're in great shape with any of the top tier candidates.

[RetroLounge]

25. I agree. Very electable, indeed.

since Sunday:

8926 contributors...

$554,519.81...

Seems pretty electable to me...

[HazMat]

31. If Dean is the nominee, we'd be lucky for only 4 more years of Bush

A landslide Dean defeat would be a serious blow to the Democratic party, and would likely result in much more than another 4 years for BFEE/PNAC.

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[AWD]

36. Whatever...

...keep using those right-wing talking points. You get a free tote bag at 500.

[AWD]

37. Tell me...

...how's it feel to be trailing a guy who can't win?

Pathetic, isn't it??

Oh, well....at least you've got that war vote on your resume', huh???

[HazMat]

41. Hey, at least I support candidates who can actually defeat Bush

Both of the candidates I support (Kerry and Clark) beat Bush in the latest poll, while Dean does the worst. At the end of the day Dean is still the anti-war, weak on defense, gay marriage guy from the second smallest state in the union -- who would be toast in a national election.

John Kerry's vote was correct based on the evidence presented. Americans can feel confident that Kerry will protect them. The same can't be said about Howard Dean.

Quite frankly, the idea of Dean as commander in chief is laughable to me, as I'm sure it is to the majority of Americans.

[Ellen Forradalom]

38. Oy, you'd think we were Nader supporters or something

*sigh*

[stickdog]

40. Here's why Dean will kick Bush's ass.

Unlike the other candidates, Dean can legitimately attack Bush on EVERYTHING.

Meanwhile, exposing Dean's record to scrutiny will only show people that he's more centrist than they thought!

[poskonig]

21. Thank you for posting this!

I appreciate it. :pals:

[gully]

26. Damn right he is, it's amazing that so many of our Dems are actually

contenders!

Dean is not to be underestimated. He was polling at 2% only a few months ago.

[Capn Sunshine]

27. I hate to keep bringing this up

But Dean supporters, almost half of them,DON'T SHOW UP ON THE POLLS Keep that in mind when reviewing numbers.

We're dealing with something totally off the radar , not a conventional "the way it used to be " campaign. This is true grass roots , not a cadre of likely voters.


The only way any of you will understand this apparently is after the first primary.

[dfong63]

28. imagine that - you mean it DOESN'T take a general to beat Bush???

[jeter]

29. This is the worst poll for Bush

I love it.

[artr2]

33. So, Tell me something I don't already know.

nt

[Ellen Forradalom]

39. Bottom line? Bush is beatable

Dean, Clark, Kerry--I'll take any one of them!