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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:14 PM
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Frist & McCain press conference Tues am re: BOLTON
10:30 am Tuesday, Frist & McCain have scheduled a press conference with an announcement re: the Bolton nomination.

No leaks yet as to what it's about

Mindless speculation -
1. they have the votes for cloture (possible, but do they need a press conference to announce it?)
2. the WH has agreed to release some of the info and is letting McCain take credit for the deal (possible, McCain has been working on something)
3. they're giving up on Bolton (is this possible???)
4. or ????? (your ideas...)

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:16 PM
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1. 4. going to announce that if Botlon doesn't get confirmed then the
Terrorists WIN !!!!!!:dunce:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:25 PM
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4. My money's on your horse!
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:18 PM
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2. Maybe replacing Bolton with Bill Clinton ????? I bet they are pulling him
and going to spin it as if it was President Bush's idea. :puke:
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:33 PM
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7. I LIKE that idea...
Wishin' and hopin'




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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:21 PM
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3. I don't know what's up. Anxious to find out tho....eom
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:29 PM
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5. My guess...they don't have the votes
and are dropping his nomination.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:40 PM
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10. No. Fucking. Way. Judging by McCain's ability to pander to
both sides of the aisle, the wacko fundies, freepers, and Christian Taliban I'm guessing he is going to back Frist to get Chimpy's buddy in New York no matter what. McCain may step out of bounds for a few brief minutes to try and bolster his image as a moderate but when the day is done - he is a black-hearted, partisan rethug who cares more about his ambitions then the American people or the UN. McCain tries to be "reasonable" for a day or two a month but he has already spent June's allotment.

If Frist thought he was losing Bolton it would be announced on a Friday night from the sub-basement of the White House by a lackey that only speaks Portuguese. Frist is front and center - he's got something going to get Bolton confirmed. Country be damned.

McCain is doing duty as Frist and Chimpy's butt boy tomorrow. Mark my words.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:43 PM
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11. I admire your optimism! (But you're probably right)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:15 PM
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15. McCain's retribution for being in the gang of 14?
Then WHAT THE FUCK did the Democrats get out of that damn "compromise" they made to save the filibuster?????? BOLTON SHOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THAT DEAL!:grr: Then what the hell is Frist going to announce? If he's got the votes, why call a freakin' press conference? That's not news. If the documents are released, I can't IMAGINE that Bolton would make it past a filibuster. What? What the hell is up then? What's news?

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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:31 PM
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22. That was only for judges, so it shouldn't be part of the deal. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:17 PM
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16. Very true
McCain whored for Bush this last election for nothing. I wonder what could be up myself.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:19 PM
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17. They wouldn't hold a press conference to announce failure.
n/t
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:30 PM
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6. they're going to announce their engagement
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:43 PM
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12. LOL
Seriously, I doubt this is good news.
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:34 PM
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8. Isn't there a special rule
That the president can override or bypass the senate. Another "screw you, we don't really need you" Bush moment.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:25 PM
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19. The only way a president can over-ride Congress is with a veto
and even then congress can over-ride a presidential veto with a 2/3 vote. And that really only applies to legislation that the president has to sign.

The president can't force the senate to confirm Bolton. He CAN do a recess appointment at some point while the senate is in recess (the next opportunity for that would be the 4th of July recess). Even then, a recess appointment is temporary.

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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:57 PM
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24. Thanks for clarifying
I heard something about this a while back, but didn't understand the concept.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:36 PM
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9. Maybe they are going to announce
a recess appt and blame it on dems being obstructionists. Although I don't know why they would announce this rather than the WH.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:50 PM
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14. Um.
Say goodbye.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 07:01 PM
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18. Bush can't do a recess appointment right now
not while the senate is in session. If he's going to do one, (note that he DIDN'T do it over the Memorial Day recess), his first opportunity is over the 4th of July recess.

I'd count out an announcement of a recess appointment tomorrow. Tomorrow is about senate news, of some sort or another.


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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:27 PM
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20. what has McCain had to say about Bolton? n/t
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:54 PM
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27. I haven't heard McCain speak about Bolton recently
I have heard that he has concerns about Bolton and that he's been working on trying to get the info from the WH that Biden & Dodd have requested, but I don't specifically know where McCain stands on Bolton.


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:29 PM
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21. This will be interesting...
:smoke:
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:34 PM
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23. Maybe that if the Senate doesn't confirm, Bolton will be.....
Maybe that if the Senate doesn't confirm, Bolton will be confirmed anyway by recess appointment, so they can't win. How long is the recess appointment good for?
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:00 PM
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25. Another one of those damn 7 Repug 7 Dem compromises. n/t
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:07 PM
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26. McCain still has delusion about the Presidency. The Republicans
will NEVER nominate a Veteran. Bye, Bye McCain.
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