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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:55 AM
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President for life????? Bush?????
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:57 AM
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1. What drug are THEY on?
I need it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:59 AM
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3. Mr. SENSENBRENNER's name comes up again
Very interesting.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 03:57 AM
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22. Oh goodness...
My nightmare has come true, please god, help me wake up from this Bush nightmare....:P I hope/pray this doesn't happen, along with the attempt to allow foreign born citizens to run for president.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:58 AM
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2. Dictator Bush's quotes here:
You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.
(Governing Magazine 7/98)

-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.

-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " said.

-- Business Week, July 30, 2001

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.J.RES.24.IH:
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:59 AM
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4. It is very scary that these freakazoid goons even made the gesture.....
I mean talk about being complete ass-fucks. I wanna see pics of these goober-faced but nuggets.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:01 AM
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7. Here is guck-ass one (and only Repug among the 5 co-sponsors)
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 01:13 AM by expatriot


James Sensebrenner.... from Wisconsin's 5th District...


googling this reps makes it apparent it was some protest/publicity stunt on the parts of the 4 out of 5 co-sponsors. Interesting.

Sabo - D from MN-5
Hoyer - D from MD-5
Berman- D from CA-28
Pallone D from NJ-6

and from scanning things these are good blue state dems - it must have been a protest vote or something like that.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:06 AM
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11. What an handsome young man !
Fat fart !
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:10 AM
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13. Update --- four of the five co-sponsors of this bill were DEMOCRATS
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 01:14 AM by expatriot
Sabo - D from MN-5
Hoyer - D from MD-5
Berman- D from CA-28
Pallone D from NJ-6

and from scanning things these are good blue state dems - it must have been a protest vote or something like that.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:59 AM
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5. Even if it passes the house and senate
they still need it to be ratified by 3/4 of the states within seven years of it passing or it dies. Never Happen (I hope), but even if it does it will probably be too late for Chimpy (Ipray)!!:puke:
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:00 AM
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6. It would never happen in a million years
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 01:01 AM by Tempest
First, they would never get 2/3rds of Congress to vote for it.

And they would never get 3/4ths of the states to approve it.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:01 AM
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8. The fact that they are trying is pretty gross.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:41 AM
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24. Agree with you there n/t
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:08 AM
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12. If they steal 2006 it will happen
2/3 congress will be repub.

3/4 of the States using Diebold or E&S, or Sequoia voting machines, and bam it happens.

This is not a joke, things are not looking so good right about now.

When are we going to be in the streets again?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:42 AM
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25. The state voters don't vote on the amendment
The state legislatures do.

And if the people speak up loud enough against it, the legislators won't support it.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:02 AM
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9. Well, he IS the King, you know. And King's serve for Life.
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 01:02 AM by zann725
How silly to doubt.

Besides, why waste all that time and energy on another election they're just going to "fix" anyway.

THIS saves tons of taxpayer money...which the Shrubs can then use for the indulgences of their choice.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:05 AM
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10. Long live the Chimp ?
I heard that Nixon was planning the exact same thing.But a Little event known as the Watergate killed that beautiful project.
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evilkumquat Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:14 AM
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14. Another Nazi Parallel
I know the Neo-cons go NUTS when the crap they pull gets put in historical perspective, but here we go again:

Laying the groundwork for allowing Bush to have unlimited terms is very similar in spirit to when Hitler was voted in as Chancellor for Life.

The first thing any fascist does is secure his power-base.

Evil Kumquat
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:17 AM
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15. it looks like DEMOCRATS sponsored this bill....
Hoyer, the sponsor is a Dem from Maryland's 5th District

3 of the 4 co sponsors were DEM

Sabo - D from MN-5
Berman- D from CA-28
Pallone D from NJ-6

Now don't ask me why a Repug from Wisconsin jumped aboard... maybe as a "counter-protest" like "I'm all for Bush having unlimited terms!" thing.
I don't know.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:17 AM
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16. Send this to everyone you know.
Everyone, even the repubs on you list.

EVERYONE!!!!
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:48 AM
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20. Hitler's Enabling Act
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:28 AM
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17. Hoyers (Democrat MD-5) introduced this bill with the following speech
This is very interesting to say the least.... doesn't LOOK like a protest... he is sincere (not the part where he says G. W. wouldn't be allowed to seek a third term even with the immediate ratification of the repeal.


REPEAL 22ND AMENDMENT TO U.S. CONSTITUTION -- (Extensions of Remarks - February 18, 2005)

SPEECH OF
HON. STENY H. HOYER
OF MARYLAND
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2005

· Mr. HOYER. Mr. Speaker, I am introducing today a joint resolution to repeal outright the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution. The 22nd Amendment requires that no person who has served two terms or has served two years of another President's term be permitted to serve another term of office.

· The time has come to repeal the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution, and not because of partisan politics. While I am not a supporter of the current President, I feel there are good public policy reasons for a repeal of this amendment. Under the Constitution as altered by the 22nd Amendment, this must be President George W. Bush's last term even if the American people should want him to continue in office. This is an undemocratic result.

· Under the resolution I offer today, President Bush would not be eligible to run for a third term. However, the American people would have restored to themselves and future generations an essential democratic privilege to elect who they choose in the future.

· A limitation on the terms that a President could serve was not fully discussed by the Founding Fathers. However, Alexander Hamilton, in Federalist Paper 72, recognized that one important benefit of not having term limits on the President would be:

· We do not have to rely on rigid constitutional standards to hold our Presidents accountable. Sufficient power resides in the Congress and the Judiciary to protect our country from tyranny. As the noted attorney and counsel to Presidents, Clark Clifford, said:

I believe we denigrate ourselves as an enlightened people, and our political process as a whole, in imposing on ourselves still further disability to retain tested and trusted leadership. The Congress and the Judiciary are now and will remain free to utilize their own countervailing constitutional power to forestall any executive overreaching


http://www.vote-smart.org/speech_detail.php?speech_id=81181&keyword=&phrase=&contain=
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:31 AM
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18. I don't care it is a fucking awful idea and I curse him for even writing
this shit in the first place.

Just when I think it won't get worse...
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 01:33 AM
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19. yes...when I said interesting I meant "weird"... his comments on executive
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 01:34 AM by expatriot
power not being a threat because of constitutional checks and balances is extremely, dangerously naive. It is crap, that's for sure.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 02:01 AM
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21. kick
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:50 AM
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26. I read this and think...
They want to run Clinton again.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:37 AM
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23. Perhaps an attempt to disrupt the Clinton marriage once again!
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 09:57 AM
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27. If that bill succeeds, I'm taking my family out of this country. n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:08 AM
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28. What I want to see is a bill for term limits on Congress critters.
I don't even like two terms for the Oval Office. Sorry. Four years of anyone is enough for me. I guess, however, it makes them try harder in the first term so they'll be re-elected a second term. bush of course is the anomaly in any discussion of election or terms or whatever.

I'm an American who once thought Congress did a decent job, despite their power-hungry egos. I've changed my mind. There are very very few of them I respect, none of them I actually admire. I'd like to see a three-term limit on Senators. I'm sure every state has extremely qualified people. Maybe term limits would put a stop to the egregious spending on campaigns for Congress, and people who actually give a damn about their constituents will go to Congress.

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