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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:33 PM
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Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
And if you need any evidence this is the case just keep reading.

The Exception Is the Rule
By Jonathan Schell

Sometimes the truth of a large, confusing historical enterprise can be glimpsed in a single news report. Such is the case in regard to the Iraq War, it seems to me, with the recent story in the Washington Post by Anthony Shadid and Steve Fainaru called "Building Iraq's Army: Mission Improbable." Shadid and Fainaru did something that is rarely done: spend several days with a unit of Iraq's new, American-trained forces. (The typical treatment of the topic consists of a few interviews with American officers in the Green Zone in Baghdad, leading to some estimation of how long it will take to complete the job.) The Post story starts with the lyrics of a song the soldiers of the unit, called Charlie Company, were singing out of earshot of their American overseers. It was a ballad to Saddam Hussein, and it ran:

We have lived in humiliation since you left
We had hoped to spend our life with you


The American press often discusses the political makeup of the insurgency, but no one until now has suggested that some of the very forces being trained by the United States might be longing for the return of Saddam. To the extent that this is the case -- or that these forces are otherwise opposed to the occupation -- the United States, far from improving "security," is now training the future resistance to itself.(emphasis added) Indeed, the soldiers of Charlie Company told Shadid and Fainaru that seventeen of them had quit in recent days. They added that every one of them planned to do the same as soon as possible. Their reasons were simple. They were bitter at the United States. "Look at the homes of the Iraqis," one soldier remarked. "The people have been destroyed." When asked by whom, he answered, "Them" -- and pointed to the Americans leading the patrol. The Iraqis had enlisted in the new army only for the salary -- $340 per month, an enviable sum in today's ruined Iraq. But the money had come at the price of self-respect. The new recruits had been bought off and hated themselves for it. One said that after they had all quit, "We'll live by God, but we'll have our respect."

One might wonder whether the reporters had deliberately or unknowingly picked an exceptionally rebellious unit. But in fact, Charlie Company was selected by the U.S. Army itself, presumably eager to put its best foot forward.

The American officers' response to their sullen recruits is of a piece with the entire American effort in Iraq. The officers treat their charges as if, owing to certain mysterious personal defects, they somehow are not quite up to the job they have been given. After a typical episode in which the unit was attacked and ran away (four hailed taxis to make their escape), Sgt. Rick McGovern, who leads the unit, dressed them down. "You are all cowards," he informed them. He went on, "My soldiers are over here, away from our families for a year. We are willing to die for you to have freedom. You should be willing to die for your own freedom." The tongue-lashing assumed that the Iraqis and the American shared a cause that, as the story shows, was actually 100 percent missing. Iraqi men who hate the American occupation are not cowards if they decline to shoot other men who are fighting the occupation. On the contrary, the more courage they had, the less they would engage in such a fight. The men of Charlie Company do indeed lack courage -- courage to turn down the money they accept for pretending to fight for a cause they despise. Their most cowardly moment, given their beliefs, was when they sat still while Sergeant McGovern called them cowards. One soldier, Amar Mana, explained the situation in the clearest terms: "We don't want to take responsibility," he said. "The way the situation is, we wouldn't be ready to take responsibility for a thousand years."

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:38 PM
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1. Meanwhile...
...billions of dollars are moving from the US Treasury into Mil-Indus-Intel hands.

Odd that Cheney and the Bush family have such close ties to that community.

Win or lose, leave a mess or try to fix it, the money has already been moved. BushCo win. Impeach or not, the money is gone. An article of impeachment should be the return of the Invasion money, with lots of it going to the families of dead and injured soldiers (Bush cut VA funding! Haha! What a troop supporter).
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:51 PM
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2. yeah, the crime is they know what they are doing....
and they don't a shit about the mess and deaths they leave
doing it.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:04 PM
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3. And so it has been for thousands of years..........
....the problem is that the people that learned the lesson from horrific blunders or mistakes die off and the people that follow were not around to benefit from the hard lessons learned by there ancestors. Every generation thereafter has to keep making the same mistakes to learn the hard lessons for themselves. And so it goes......on.
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