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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:53 PM
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Ed Schultz Vs. A Rock: Who's Dumber?
God is this guy taking dumb-ass pills or what.

I'm in and out of my car a lot in the afternoon and popped in on him giving a long boring speech about why Americans use too much gas. Not because of the CARS...at all....WE LIKE TO GO FAST!

We're super macho go-fast people. We don't want a ski boat to go 30, we want it to 50! Uh-murkins like to go real fast. Now take his first plane....blah blah blah.

Would this guy fall off his stool to know that some of us ARE actually carpooling, walking more and TRYING to cut down on gas consumption? How about some LEADERSHIP in that direction?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:56 PM
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1. I heard the same thing
and he did sound dumb(he really can sound ignorant sometimes), and almost as if he was glorifying this aspect of murikun culture. However, I THINK his point was that we need to lower the speed limit to 55 because people won't slow down on their own. And he is right about that. His point was lost in all of the stupid rhetoric.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:20 PM
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17. OMG...Was THAT The Point?
Here's what he doesn't get: Many people who listen to him are like me, listening to segments while carpooling and doing errands. So when every time you get in the car he is saying something like: "I used to make that drive in 4 hours but how about 3 hours and 45 minutes....we like to go fast! That's the way it is!"

What I'm saying is I came in and out of it for a few stops and he didn't seem to be making ANY point at all except WE LIKE TO GO FAST.

It was worth it to hear my Senator Boxer though -- I love that woman!
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:23 PM
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21. Oh, no!
I was in and out of my car too, and missed Boxer! Gulp....I'm okay now...:cry:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:29 PM
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26. She was GREAT!!
As always....she's on there a lot. I actually don't mind his interviews except the Dean one was a little ridiculous, it was all like WHY DON'T YOU DO MY SHOW AND WHY ARE YOU DOING IT ON A CELL PHONE?

Usually he just lets the person talk which is fine.

Boxer was talking about holding GWBs feet to the fire to get a concrete exit strategy outta Iraq...
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:33 PM
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27. Thanks for the summary!
I love Barbara!! :)
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:38 PM
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28. She was saying that...
us being there was accomplishing only two things, one, a lot of people resent the hell out of it and so it fuels terrorism....two, the ones who don't will just sit back and let us "protect" them as long as we keep doing it.

Oh and she suggested a book that I'm going to look for at the library, I think she said the author is Mackey or Mackee something like that, and it's about how Iraq came to be the way it is now, history from WWI era to now.

She suggested that if somebody in the administration had even done THAT much research, they could have foreseen all these problems.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:57 PM
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2. He's not talking to us...but to the Limbaugh types....
And, getting those types to give up their "Hummers" and Gigantic SUV's (the ones that are like RV's) isn't going to be easy.

Can you imagine Franken or Rhodes talking about this issue in a way that would grab the Limpball's types? :eyes:

He might not be what you want to listen to but FGS! Think of the alternatives for folks who can't get into AAR? :shrug:

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with him, though...:-(
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:21 PM
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19. Yea, the Limbaugh types really care about saving gas
and will gladly slow down to "55"- hell, I won't do it and I'm not a Limbaugh type.

Remember that about the first thing the Gingrich Congress did was repeal the national speed limit? Why do you think that was? Because his constituency cared about conservation?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:26 PM
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23. Yeah If People Are Going To Go 65 Rather Than 55
Then they might as well drive an SUV? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? He was acting like the speed was more important than the fuel economy of the car....I actually couldn't figure out what the hell he was getting at.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:57 PM
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3. Well, just like rush and his ilk caters to the
lowest common denominator on the right, schultz caters to the lowest common denominator on the left. Unfortuantely, the LCD on the right is a significant portion of the population.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:57 PM
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4. I think his point is that many are not doint things to conserve
From watching the speed of traffic on the 25 mph street outside my apartment, I'd have to say I agree with him!
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:40 PM
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29. But...
Yeah but I heard him say, "and they're never GOING to." Like, it's not going to happen. Which is a little ridiculous, with the right leadership we could see improved awareness and fuel conservation. What we have now is the opposite, they want status quo forever even though it's obviously not sustainable.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:06 AM
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39. Yeah, you're right.
That part makes it sound hopeless and I don't think it is. Funny when he was saying that I was going the speed limit on a busy street and thinking "I could go faster on my horse!" Now that is my speed addiction: galloping full out with an animal that truly enjoys it too! And she runs on bio-fuels :)
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PegDAC Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 08:11 PM
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35. It's really bad here
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:02 PM
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5. Ed Schultz
I'm sick of his Dean bashing beltway-Dem bullshit. Randi Rhodes can't come on soon enough when I hear Schultz' Rush-like voice.

JB
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:03 PM
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6. Ed Schultz hands down
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 05:19 PM by LSK
At least rocks dont speak and display how stupid they are.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:04 PM
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7. Well I hope he appeals to some group of people and changes their
minds but he is pure annoyance to me and I am going to write my local station and ask them to air only the real Air America people. Ed Schultz is obnoxious.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:08 PM
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8. Can't stand ed, and I agree he is dumber than a rock, but if he can get
people who are even dumber on our side, and there are LOTS of them, got get them, bring them over from the dark side. But I'll instead of listening to him, I'll just hum in my car.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:12 PM
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12. he's not on our side
it's a known fact that his show was launched by DLC staffers-he's out to stop Dean and get the proven election losers like Mcaulliffe and brasille back in charge
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:18 PM
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15. Yea but the if the listeners choices are the Hillbilly Heroin addict or,
Ed, I prefer them listening to Ed.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:18 PM
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16. Yea but the if the listeners choices are the Hillbilly Heroin addict or,
Ed, I prefer them listening to Ed.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 06:12 PM
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34. So..not only does Dean have
to deal with the neoconmonkeyreich..he has to deal with the loudmouth ed schultz types.

Dean Can Handle! :patriot:
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Drewskie Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:10 PM
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9. ...
Smart people generally get their news via press(papers -n- mags) rather than the radio. It's sort of a moron who listens to 3 + hours of radio a day anyways... unless you are stuck in traffic or drive for a living, of course.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:11 PM
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10. why would getting news from papers n mags be good???
Edited on Wed Jun-15-05 05:12 PM by LSK
They can lie to just as easily as the 11 oclock news or Rush.

DU is my #1 news source.
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Drewskie Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:18 PM
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14. ...
That would depend on the periodical, would'nt it? Personally, I like Newsweek.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:12 PM
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11. Lighten Up .......
...... does he not have a right to his opinion on his show? Sure I disagree
with a lot of what he says but he has the right to say what he wants.

Put down the tofu and sprout sandwich and lighten up.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:17 PM
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13. Not Really That I Disagree More Like...
...he reminds me of sitting by a boring guy in a plane or something. Does anybody really LIKE blowhard guys who brag about their fishing, various stuff the own, how fast they get from one place to another etc. ZZZZZZ! Plus he seems to read about as much as GWB.

Half the time when people bring up news, he hasn't heard of it. BUT HE 'APPRECIATES THE CALL!'

Frankly, I think we shouldn't really be going after the Arrogant Boring Dumbass guys because they are going to vote for the King Arrogant Boring Dumbass, GWB!
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Drewskie Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:21 PM
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20. ...
Is there a guy in a black suit holding a gun forcing you to listen? Switch the station if you don't like it.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:26 PM
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24. I Wanted To Hear Senator Boxer
And I think maybe YOU should lighten up!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:28 PM
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25. unfortunately he is our only voice in a lot of areas
And he if he claims to be our voice, but then he is Rush light, what good is that?
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:21 PM
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18. ooh, "tofu and sprout sandwich," I'm so insulted
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:24 PM
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22. Actually That's Not Far Off, LOL....
Am eating avocado, tomato & swiss and if I don't say so myself IT'S DELICIOUS! Maybe I should send this as a lunch suggestion to the fine four star chefs at Gitmo that Hunter was going on and on about. ha! That was just TOO much.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 08:14 PM
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37. Yes he has that right
and I have the right to call him names and pick on him. I haven't listened to him since his interview fawning over Joe Lieberman..
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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:50 PM
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30. I think there's room for a Schultz type
He reminds me of Bartcop, whom I've met. Bart calls himself a meat-eating, Vegas-gambling, tequila-swilling, gun-owning liberal. He sounds and looks like a yahoo, but there plenty of those types out there that can relate. If Schultz can reel that crowd in, we can expand our influence to the "red" states.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 06:02 PM
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33. Well If He Can Do Any Good, Great...
but I can't help feeling that the goal should be impart knowledge and intellegent discussion rather than, you know, try to be a dumb as THEY are. They GOT the dumb thing down.

I dunno -- I hope he is changing some minds, I mean whatever works.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 05:52 PM
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31. I think he's still a stupid repub who couldn't get a job as one...
...so he switched over to be the populist everyman on the left....he's still stupid as hell.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 06:02 PM
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32. I got so mad at his Dean bashing
I wrote him an e-mail. He was so off the wall in his insults about Dean.

He has some personal agenda about Howard Dean that is totally counterproductive and hostile.

Instead of being such a big macho man, Shultz seems petty and obboxious
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 08:13 PM
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36. I don't care much for Edsh Limshultz. n/t
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 08:48 PM
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38. Why is everybody bashing Ed Schultz?
I like Ed Schultz. He is a reformed conservative, so he knows what he is talking about when it comes to reaching out and converting people from the other side. I enjoy the other progressive hosts as well, but they tend to preach to the choir. Schultz seems to be trying to reach everybody. What makes him a valuable voice is that he is a progressive that many "red-staters" can relate to.
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