At 12:30 am, EST a non-violent revolution is scheduled to begin . . .

[Richard D]

. . . in Iran. This is really quite extraordinary and can serve as inspiration for a non-violent, heart-based takeover of a country.

Full information and instructions for revolution: http://ahura.info/

[iconoclastic cat]

1. I cannot read arabic.

What does it say?

[Richard D]

2. It's not arabic . . .

. . . it's Farsi. And there are English pages for each Farsi page. But basically, at 12:30 AM EST on Thursday around 70 million people in Iran are going to leave their homes and remain on the streets until freedom is achieved. On June 8, 2005, 30 million people demonstrated against the Islamic republic.

On edit: There are also pages that give the instructions to the participants on what to do. Quite eye-opening.

If it can work there . . .

[bluestateguy]

3. Good for them

If the people there want democracy bad enough and are willing to sacrifice to get it, I'm sure someday it will come.

That can achieve democracy far better than having a foreign invading army impose it at gunpoint.

[Richard D]

4. I find it interesting

that it's happening on the same day as the Conyer's hearing, which could begin the downfall of the BFEE.

[bluestateguy]

5. I can promise you one thing

that hearing may produce a lot of iinteresting stuff, but it will not be the downfall of anything or anybody. Like all of the other "Oh, oh! Bush is toast!" stories, this one will drop like a brick and disappear from the corporate media headlines in a week or two.

[Imajika]

9. Yup...

...were back to the Bush is done, the tide is turning, Bush can't recover posts.

All nonsense.

Bush is president of a divided nation and will probably never have great poll ratings again. If the DSM weakens Bush just a little bit further, I will be happy. Predicting his resignation, impeachment or downfall is a fools errand. I see nothing yet that could force any of the above.

Imajika

[iconoclastic cat]

10. A real nonviolent overthrow of the moo-lahs (in-joke) wouldn't help Bush

He'd look weak, IMHO.

[Imajika]

11. I think you've got a good point...

Don't know if Bush would look weak, and he could argue his invasion of Iraq is spreading freedom...but...

I rather suspect Americans would look at a real nonviolent revolution by the people in Iran as what democratization should look like. Why, if the Iranians want freedom they take to the streets and seize it, should we be invading Iraq and forcing it upon them. It almost makes the point that the Iraqi's may not have wanted freedom and democracy (at least our version of it) all that badly.

It's a close call, but I am not sure Bush gets much benefit out of it. Don't forget, a Democratic Iran may still want nukes and may still support nations and causes America generally opposes.

Imajika

[Imajika]

6. Propaganda site...

I do agree that the Iranian people, for the most part, hate the theocratic regime that rules them...

But these sites are dissident webpages that constantly over promise, announce "huge" protests that often never happen, are run by people that haven't lived on Iran for years, and are basically trying to encourage revolution from outside the country.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying a non violent revolution won't happen - and I think it will be great if it does. I just wouldn't count on this panning out.

Imajika

[SmokingJacket]

7. Verrrry interesting....

Call me cynical, but I googled this guy and this is what I found:

http://www.karmalised.com/archives/000629.html

Has a contract to fly chartered planes out of occupied Iraq and boasts of contacts with Dyn Corp? Is he a pal of the Bushies, or what?

I'm all for non-violent revolution, if it truly is the will of the people. But we ought to look carefully at the motivations of the leaders of the movements.

You gotta wonder who's the pocketbook here.

[Rex]

8. I wonder if the BFEE will invite itself to the party?

:shrug:

[alittlelark]

12. I sent it to my best friend (Persian)... she says he is 'Shaheem'

due to his brooch ie; supporter or the Shah . The Shah was propped up by US oil interests until the Mullahs overthrew him. Her cousin is the Shah's wife, so she has a somewhat confused view on this. Her family used to 'own' about 1/6 of Iran until the Shah was overthrown. She is calling her brother who is managing the family estates.

I'll post w/ more when she calls me back.

[Tsiyu]

13. kick

[Tsiyu]

14. kick