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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 12:57 AM
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Stop Calling It The MSM!!!
Calling it the MSM (main stream media) is a mis-nomer, because they are NOT the mainstream...not even close. They just want everyone to THINK that they are.

Start calling them by a more accurately descriptive name: The Corporate Media.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:00 AM
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1. I refer to them as CMC
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 01:00 AM by xxqqqzme
CorporateMediaClique or Clan
people calling them 'mainstream' bugs the hell out of me as well!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:00 AM
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27. add CIA infested to that
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:00 AM
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2. Sorry but 'The Corporate Media' is trademarked.
MSM just sounds kinky like O'Lielly.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:05 AM
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4. I Know
I didn't claim to have come up with the phrase. I heard it somewhere, and I liked it. It's more truly descriptive of our media these days.

I'm just passing on to my fellow DU'ers that we need to work this into our lexicon somehow.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:04 AM
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3. I second that ......
The blogosphere is the Main Stream Media Now. We are the MSM !!!!!! And we have to get active in spreading the truth about the DSM and this corrupt Administration every day by any means possible. Never give up never surrender !!!!!! Peace :)
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:06 AM
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5. If "they" aren't the mainstream media, who is?
Define mainstream.

But I agree with you, the issue isn't liberal, conservative, or mainstream media - it's corporate media which may have lib, con, or pop qualities.

TCM!

(it's also better because it can't be confused with microsoft, msnbc etc...:)
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:33 AM
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6. we are, thee and me and everyone else in the DU
......really, would you trust anyone else? :patriot: ;)
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:38 AM
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7. I have dubbed them the CMWs* .
*Corporate Media Whores
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:52 AM
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8. Corporations are not intrinsically evil. Monopolies, however...
...are the organizational personifications of Neofeudalism and are (in their innate suppression of individuality, dignity and liberty) probably as oppressively vile as any institution humanity has ever conceived. On that basis, why not call the global media what it truly is: "monopolist media," literally the voice of the global economy. "Globalist media" would be an operational synonym. Or simply "the media monopoly," as in "the media monopoly is now saying that we should downsize Social Security and remain in Iraq indefinitely."

And, yes, the implication that monopolistic media is ideologically monolithic is correct: despite apparent local variances, where matters of liberty, workplace democracy and socialism or Marxism is concerned, it speaks with one (infinitely antagonistic) voice -- the voice of its owners and the schemes it serves, the voice of the tiny plutocracy that owns the global economy, the voice of international (monopoly) capitalism.

Such media could be abbreviated "MMM" -- monolithic media monopoly. Or even "MM" -- media monolith, media monopoly or several other variants thereof.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:31 AM
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19. Maybe Not Evil, But
corporations interests and workers interests are basically 180 degrees apart from one another.

Let's face it, the worker's interest is to get as much as possible out of the company, for doing as little work as possible...whereas, the company's interest is to get as much work as possible out of the worker, while paying as little as possible to get it.

These are diametrically opposed interests. What is beneficial to one is intrinsically inimical to the interests of the other.

Unless, of course, companies stop being penny-wise and dollar-foolish.

Unless companies start realizing that healthy employees are more productive employees...and that the best way to have healthy employees is to make sure they have access to adequate medical care, for example...things will only get worse and worse for the American worker, because companies are only seeing the bottom line, and nothing else matters.

We need to show them how things beneficial to workers can also have a positive impact on that eventual bottom line, even though they may cost some initial output. Like anything else, a good employee should be seen as an INVESTMENT. One has to maintain investments. Even machines need maintenance.

Studies have shown that an employee who occasionally gets the chance to "recharge their batteries" that is, go on a paid vacation...is a much more productive employee when they return from the vacation. The benefit to the employer then becomes having a more productive employee...and a happy employee, one who wants to stay long-term. The benefit to the worker is obvious.

We need to start reminding corporations of what is...and what should be...important! They seem to have forgotten to dance with the people who brought them.
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 02:21 PM
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30. Our outrage is nearly identical but our sense of language...
...is clearly different. The exploitation and abuse you speak of is increasingly characteristic of capitalist business whether incorporated or not -- especially now in the BushCo Era when the capitalist malevolence of the pre-FDR period is again so clearly sanctioned by the powers that be. But what about non-profit corporations? (As in the Corporation for Public Broadcasting). What about charitable corporations? (Catholic Community Services is the largest non-governmental charity in Washington state; in fact it runs the state's most effective food banks and soup kitchens -- and does so without one scintilla of proselytizing.) What about for-profit corporations dedicated to progressive purposes? (For example The Seattle Sun, 1974-1981, destroyed by an advertising boycott in retaliation for journalistic crusading that included exposure of the WPPSS fiasco.)

My point is a semantic one, simply this: a corporation is definitively neutral, merely an organizational structure that can be set to purposes good or evil as determined by its management. By contrast, a monopoly is always exploitative, always representative of the very worst capitalism has to offer. And monopoly capitalism itself -- especially as conceived by BushCo -- is invariably a license to steal and exploit.

Alas, until socialism is reformed by localization (and by localization kept genuinely in the hands of workers), socialism can be effectively as bad, albeit for very different reasons: note the comments below about the Cyrillic letters CCCP. (In our Roman alphabet this is "SSSR": approximately Soyouz Sovietskii Socialitziya Raesfublik, or something very close to that. Sorry; it's been nearly 45 years since I studied Russian).

But socialism is an aside. Returning to the issue at hand, the existence of "the Corporation for Public Broadcasting" proves my point, for there is the best, most fair, most complete broadcast news source in the United States. A "corporation," yes, but under savage attack by BushCo precisely because it is the antithesis of everything allegedly "corporate" against which you rail. Hence my reasoned preference for "monopolist" media or "media monopoly" -- the genuine bad guys, deliberately dumbing down America at every opportunity, "All Lacey Peterson All the Time" versus adequate election coverage. Bread and Circuses.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:54 AM
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9. Stenography corp is my term du jour
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 01:58 AM
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10. It's what the mainstream pays *attention* to.
Sure, it's crap, just like so much mainstream music or mainstream literature. "Mainstream media" seems pretty apt to me.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:37 AM
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11. How about -> CCCP: Corporate Controlled Conservative Press
I think this is from Eric J in MN.

I had been using CON (Corporate Owned News,) but I like CCCP better.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:33 AM
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20. I Like This
Did you know that CCCP was the way the Soviets referred to the former U.S.S.R? Their words for it ended up creating the abbreviation C.C.C.P.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:59 AM
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29. Yes, I know what CCCP stood for, and I like the irony. n/t
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:40 AM
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12. Corporate Republican-American Press or CRAP nt.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:51 AM
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13. lol! n/t
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 05:52 AM
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14. I usually refer to them as "The Media Elite" n/t
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 06:23 AM
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15. Hee hee hee...
Perfect!! :D
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:34 AM
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21. This Is Good, Too
C.R.A.P. or media elite is good too, it puts them into their proper perspective.
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:48 AM
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24. I like it!!
:rofl:
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 07:55 AM
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16. Call it Corporate Media Cartel...
It's not the mainstream media anymore.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:07 AM
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17. But they are mainstream,
in that the vast majority of the population gets the bulk of its information from those media outlets.

However, it is accurate to say the MSM are corporate owned and thus corporate controlled - rather then independant as they once were and as they are supposed to be. There are no checks and balances if the balances are controlled by the one who needs checking.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:35 AM
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22. It's Like Putting The Fox
in charge of guarding the henhouse!!
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:08 AM
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18. Corporate Media
one step removed (?) from state media.

MSM isn't accurate.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:39 AM
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23. EME: Evil Media Empire
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:53 AM
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25. I use M$M
There's also the Corporate News Networkkk, MSRNC, and Faux.




Keith’s Barbeque Central
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 09:02 AM
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28. M$MW
main stream/corporate media whores :evilgrin:

:hi:

peace
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 08:56 AM
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26. OK. From your keyboard to my eyes
The Corporate Media it is! Never again will I say MSM. :hi:
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 02:22 PM
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31. how about fmsm
for former mainstream media?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 02:23 PM
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32. "Mainstream" Corporate Media
Scare quotes.
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