Bush is impeached...

[AUYellowDog]

We're stuck with Cheney. I'm not sure which is scarier. If they are both impeached, as could be possible if the intel was really fixed, then we get Hastert, or if he's forced to step down, his successor. If for some reason that person is also kicked out at the same time, we get Bill Frist. All of them are scary, scary people. It's hard to see who's the best. IMHO, I think we need to get Delay kicked out and some moderate republican nominated to speaker of the house, THEN impeach Bush AND Cheney. Someone along the lines of McCain. Yeah, they are still republican, but not nearly as scary. I edited to fix the Hastert/Delay issue, I forgot Hastert was Speaker and Delay was majority leader. A long day of classes makes the brain turn to sludge.


Brandon

[doublethink]

1. Bush goes down .... they all go down ....

:grr: Take no prisoners. :)

[Royaras]

2. We wouldn't get Delay.

We would get Hastert. He is next in line.

[helderheid]

48. I could handle that until 2008

;)

[rox63]

Cheney is scarier than *

Cheney is the brains behind the operation.

[Orrex]

3. Question

Wouldn't Hastert, rather than Frist or DeLay, be next in line after Cheney?

[LightningFlash]

4. Cheney LIED directly under oath multiple times.

"Saddom is conspiring to receive more weapons of mass destruction, there can be no doubt his programs are a threat to the United States"

July 1998 statement from Saddom's son "We have destroyed all of our chemical, biological, nuclear weapons"

Investigation confirmed all the findings. Cheney LIED, and conspired to defraud. All impeachable offenses.

[tk2kewl]

5. screw that...

we need to get control of the house in 06 and then impeach them both and have our guy take over

[jmowreader]

17. Nice thought but it won't work

There is a line of succession here...

The Vice President Richard Cheney
Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
President pro tempore of the Senate Ted Stevens
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns

(The Secretaries of Commerce and Labor are actually next in line here, but the current holders of those positions are foreign-born, hence ineligible for the Presidency.)

Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshio Mineta
Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman
Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson
Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff

The only one on that list who's not a neocon is Norman Mineta, and there are 12 people standing in front of him.

[dchill]

23. It WOULD work...

If Dems take the House in '06, Speaker = Nancy Pelosi.

[tk2kewl]

25. That's what I'm saying

It would be a Herculean effort, but how sweet would that be?!

[yodermon]

36. BUT you'd need a majority

in the House AND Senate.. and not just a majority, but a 2/3 senate majority to convict. so we need 67 dem senators (or "disloyal" repubs).

[dchill]

39. We need a "snowball effect"

and a steamroller to push it. The "press" COULD do that, if they were REAL Americans...

[helderheid]

49. We'd need a fair shot for that

and with all the voting going electronic, we don't have a fair shot unless everyone votes absentee and those votes are counted.

[Pab Sungenis]

6. We don't get Delay.

We get Denny Hastert, who is a pretty decent guy usually, and would be little more than a caretaker President for the next three years.

[nickinSTL]

7. minor point...

it isn't Delay next after Cheney, it's Hastert. Speaker of the House, not the House Majority leader.

And I don't think Frist is the president pro-tem of the Senate, either.

But, Cheney will be gone if Bush is...and i doubt Hastert could get much done in the chaos afterwards.

[Jack Rabbit]

8. You don't impeach Bush without impeaching Cheney, too

There enough evidence in the open to send them both up the river. It can and should be done.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. If Bush goes down

the whole gang has to go down. We can also prove that the election was stolen and Hasert will have no choice but to put in Kerry/Edwards.

[jillan]

10. I don't care who takes over if * is impeached

The politics of this country is going to take on a whole new meaning when this admin goes down.

Personally, I'd like to see a re-vote!

[Independent_Liberal]

11. Here's the presidential line of succession...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession

>>>>snip

Vice President (Richard B. Cheney)
Speaker of the House of Representatives (J. Dennis Hastert)
President pro tempore of the Senate (Ted Stevens)
Secretary of State (Condoleezza Rice)
Secretary of the Treasury (John W. Snow)
Secretary of Defense (Donald H. Rumsfeld)
Attorney General (Alberto Gonzales)
Secretary of the Interior (Gale Norton)
Secretary of Agriculture (Mike Johanns)
Secretary of Commerce (Carlos Gutierrez, ineligible)
Secretary of Labor (Elaine Chao, ineligible)
Secretary of Health and Human Services (Michael Leavitt)
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (Alphonso Jackson)
Secretary of Transportation (Norman Y. Mineta)
Secretary of Energy (Samuel W. Bodman)
Secretary of Education (Margaret Spellings)
Secretary of Veterans Affairs (Jim Nicholson)

Hope that helps.

[AUYellowDog]

14. Thanks for the correct list (post above this one)

It's been a long damn day.

Brandon

[FSogol]

18. Impeach them all down to Norman Mineta (NT)

[Independent_Liberal]

12. BTW, I'd say we impeach Cheney first...

I think many would agree with that.

[LSK]

13. Cheney and Bush are tied together

Hassert would be the president.

[mzmolly]

15. Your not listening to the hearings, the case against Cheney is being

laid down. The case against the entire upper ADMINISTRATION is being outed right now.

[NYCGirl]

16. Just a reminder...impeachment does not remove him from office.

After that, he must be convicted. It's a long process.

[Johonny]

19. Cheney

Cheney will be powerless. He has 0 charisma. He appeals to a much small fraction of society. I'm sure if Bush is impeach and forced to leave office, Cheney will go down first. He'll be force to resign so that the Republicans can have a friendlier face to replace Bush. Basically this is what happen in Nixon's case. They got rid of Spiro T before Nixon went down with the ship.

[MadHound]

20. Well, we're already stuck with Cheney

C'mon, who do you think is pulling Bush's strings?

But if Bush and/or Cheney get's impeached, it slows this NeoCon train wreck waaaaay down. That is what happened when Nixon resigned, Ford knew that the Republicans had gone way to far, and he tread very gently and very carefully for the remaining two years. The only contraversial thing Ford did was pardon Nixon, and anybody with half a brain could see that coming from a mile away.

So go ahead and impeach Bush, he is after all just a puppet, and the fall guy if his corporate masters need one. No matter who winds up in office, they will realize that they have overstepped, and will be very careful about any action they take.

[aden_nak]

21. Taking down Bush would require taking down his whole gang.

Because as even a molecule of truth came out it would be clear that it was this group of thugs, working as a cohesive unit, that falsified information about the war and knowingly presented it to Congress. We would end up, most likely, with Hastert. He isn't a gung-ho NeoCon, though, so I doubt you would see a lot of radical action from him. He'd likely follow the Gerald Ford model and do nothing special for the rest of his term. Though if he were to dare to pardon Bush or any of his ilk, we might oughts'ta take him down too.

[jobycom]

22. If Bush is impeached for treason, no one will let Cheney, Hastert or Frist

take over. There will be a massive dissolving of Republican prestige. People will demand someone not connected to Bush, and even the Republicans in Congress will feel pressured to work out a compromise, so that they don't get smeared with Bloodbath Bush's brush.

Here's my fantasy scenario. A deal is worked out so that Cheney resigns, Bush appoints Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Pelosi, Conyers or someone as VP, then Bush resigns. The deal can't allow Bush or Cheney to escape conviction for 100K counts of murder, war crimes, and treason, but maybe would allow Bush's cabinet to escape treason charges.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, though. Our job now is to broadcast through any means necessary our outrage, and the facts of the case, until this nation is rocking and stomping and foaming at the mouth to remove these monsters.

Don't take it for granted. We had Reagan dead-to-rights on treason and perjury, too, and we let him slip away, so that he died a free man. To our great shame.

[ElectroPrincess]

46. Most Excellent!

"Here's my fantasy scenario. A deal is worked out so that Cheney resigns, Bush appoints Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Pelosi, Conyers or someone as VP, then Bush resigns."

Oh, that is such a beautiful fantasy! Honest. But Bush is so arrogant, he would implode both mentally and emotionally if impeachment proceedings go forward. He would not go quietly ... and he definitely will not go with dignity and humbleness.

Stay tuned for whatever transpires in the next few weeks, it will be HISTORIC. :popcorn:

[jobycom]

47. No, Bush might go the way Hitler did

He's unstable, moody, an alcoholic and drug addict, has an extreme lack of self confidence which he covers with arrogance... It might not be pretty.

[Kraklen]

24. Assuming Cheney wouldn't be impeached as well...

he'd still be a completely lame duck. He wouldn't by able to bat an eyelash without raising public ire. Assuming there's an impeachment.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

26. That would give Frist or Hastert a running start for 2008 - scary.

n/t

[cthrumatrix]

27. TPTB may have this already planned

[Just Me]

28. The whole administration conspired to defraud the people.

Bush won't be the only one to get trapped. The rest of his administration will be mired in indictments for treason and high crimes and misdemeanors!!!

[damntexdem]

29. It isn't going to happen before 2006.

But if the drumbeat keeps up, there could be a different House majority leader by 2007.

And any impeachment effort would need to include Dubya's puppetmaster, err, co-conspirator, Darth Cheney.

Too bad we can't impeach Karl Rove.

[donheld]

30. If Bush is impeached, Cheney goes too

Cheney's been in the evil of this regime up to his eyeballs. That's just a start. Add to that Rummy, Condi, and on and on.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

31. Succession Order: Cheney,Hastert, Ted Stevens, Rice,Snow,Rumsfeld,Gonzales

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0101032.html

The Vice President Richard Cheney
Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Ted Stevens
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns
Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez2
Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao3
Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshio Mineta
Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman
Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson
Secretary of Homeland Security4 Michael Chertoff

[jokerman93]

32. Unless

Unless Cheney is behind bars, he will continue to poison the well from wherever he's put. These people have power and influence that won't be easily curtailed. The evil runs deep. And I don't even believe in evil!

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. Nope...the entire administration will be tried for high crimes

at the Hague. Bush falls...they all tumble with him.

[Chicago1]

34. The whole lot is going to get impeached

This whole bunch is going to get IMPEACHED. We're not going to be discussing the line of succession. The election issues will bring the WHOLE lot down.


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[ThomWV]

35. It Wouldn't Matter

Whoever ended up in the top spot would be utterly without effect. He or she would just be a placeholder until the next election. They couldn't get a single thing pushed up, down, or sideways.

[Stinky The Clown]

37. **IF** impeached, successor will NOT matter

Think about it. If idiot son is impeached, the whole admin and all their enablers are hugely damaged. Repubs in congress will be running like rats on A-Deck of the Titanic.

They would be unable to pass a bill allowing Triscuits to be served in the Senate commissary.

[Disturbed]

38. Pres. Pelosi sounds OK to me.

VP?

[dchill]

40. VP?

Howard Dean.

NGU

[mandyky]

41. As Ray McGovern noted

a sitting Vice president never visited the CIA, even Bush Sr. who had been head of the CIA. Cheney will go down too!

[cthrumatrix]

42. they would be soooooo sweet

[burythehatchet]

43. Trust me, that is the least of our worries

An impeachment paralyzes the bastards until the next election

[DemGirl7]

44. I don't think any of them would get to the post if Bush is impeached

They are all in it together, and if one falls, they all fall...kinda of like Dominos

[0rganism]

45. Impeach Cheney First

'nuff said. (bumper sticker idea, perhaps?)