Guess what? Guest on TDS: Iran helped plan 9/11!

[Guaranteed]

Yes, Kenneth Timmerman literally said that Iranian leaders helped plan 9/11 with bin Laden's son and number two man.

He also said that the Iranian young people are passionately resistant to the Iranian leadership. So obviously they'd be bringing us...gift baskets...if we invaded, right?

And that there's a coming nuclear confrontation with Iran. Yes, Iran has nuclear weapons, apparently.

Where, oh where, have we heard this before?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

1. Just saw it. I am disgusted with Jon having these neocon SOBs

on.

[Guaranteed]

5. Yup, too much.

Can't believe he gave one an opportunity to pull this shit again.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

28. Last night he had the same BS about Syria.

[tuvor]

41. Judging from the other posts in this thread

the guy made a fool of himself.

More guests like that are fine with me.

[kittenpants]

2. Yeah, the young Iranians love their blue jeans & rock-n-roll...

yada, yada, yada, flowers and candy....

[Guaranteed]

9. Yes, they "love America," he said.

My question: Still?

Cuz I swear at the SAME TIME they're telling us that it's the IRANIANS who are fighting us in Iraq.

[kittenpants]

10. yeah and the American flags are spontaneously bursting into flames

there too.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. "homeland psychosis" - making the same mistakes over and over

[pissed_American]

4. BWAHAHAHAHA !

IMO. Utter Bullshit !

[xray s]

6. I swear to God they are doing it again

We are already planning the war with Iran. there is no doubt.

[Kurovski]

7. Oh boy! A fresh baked load of lies!

Dig in everyone!

He can go fuck himself up his own ass with Cheney's bald, oversized skull.

[Orangepeel]

8. it would be funny if it wasn't so horrible

I remember this idea being floated a while ago. One commedian (Letterman? Stewart?) asked if we invaded the wrong country because of a typo.

[LightningFlash]

11. Heil Bushl!!!!

Blame 9/11 on Iran, you lying heartless bastard.....

And wait and watch your karma come back to wash over every crime and lie you staked into your soul!!!!!!!!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Get Tom DeLay the hell out for his crimes.


http://houseofscandal.org

[WhollyHeretic]

12. Unless we get the shrub out of office

one of these countries we invade is going to have WMD's and use them on our troops and make the 1700 deaths in Iraq look like a tiny amount.

[conflictgirl]

13. OMG, give me a freaking break!

How dumb do they think we are?

Wait, there are still almost 40% of the American public who support the Chimp, so don't answer that.

[KlatooBNikto]

14. This guy Timmerman is about as crazy as Neocons get. He claimed that

all the WMD's that Saddam was supposed to have had, were shipped over to Syria and they have been found! This is on a par with the Earth is flat and getting flatter from that fatuous windbag Friedman.

[LightningFlash]

15. Yes they were smuggled out....

Watch his polls drop to 30%....

Yes of course Iran is responsible, and Syria, the countries they want to wipe out. :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

[Bouncy Ball]

21. I've heard that Syria story for a while now.

It's nothing new.

But hell, if that WERE true, why the hell didn't bush then invade Syria?

You know why he didn't? Because it's not true.

And this was NEVER about WMDs to begin with. Anyone who thinks it was, I've got some lovely land to sell you!

[Straight Shooter]

26. Is it oceanfront property?

Because I'm sure some freepers would be interested :7

[KharmaTrain]

56. Logic 101...If He Had 'Em Why Didn't He Use 'Em

That's the conveluted mindmeld games the wingnuts play in their vain hopes of pretending this invasion was legitmate.

Now the concept of these weapons was to lash out at his enemies...and especially if his back was against the wall. I don't care how efficient our military was...Hussein knew the walls were caving and if he's as ruthless as we're led to believe, why wouldn't he have used every weapon in his arsenal. He sure didn't hold back in shooting skuds into Israel in '91. The reason he didn't do it in 2003 is he didn't have any...duh.

[Skip Intro]

16. That stood out more than anything. I wonder if the sheep will buy it again

Same thing they said for Afghanistan and in the begining Iraq.

This is scary, butI don't know who this guy is, he might be a political performance artist. If he's for real, they're trying to crank up the next war. And being them, they have a plan to do it. Americans and innocents are expendable. How attractive will the secret big picture be when their kids are required to help paint it?

[FreedomAngel82]

17. Dejavu all over again

*sigh* This is so pathetic. Who are they trying to fool???

[Guaranteed]

19. Yeah...what was it Bush said?

Fool me once...fool me once...shame...shame on you.............

Fool me twice...nwewon'tgetfooledagain!

[LuPeRcALiO]

18. hoo boy. That's what the Whitewash Commission claimed

last summer:

"Iran gave free passage to up to 10 of the September 11 hijackers just months before the 2001 attacks and offered to co-operate with al-Qa'eda against the US, an American report will say this week.

"The all-party report by the 9/11 Commission, set up by Congress in 2002, will state that Iran, not Iraq, fostered relations with the al-Qa'eda network in the years leading up to the world's most devastating terrorist attack." (London Telegraph, July 18, 2004)

Now we know why.

[Guaranteed]

22. Wewon'tgetfooledagain!! nt

[LuPeRcALiO]

32. 9/11, the gift that keeps on giving

the Bush administration excuses to bomb the shit out of countries who won't play ball with them.

Next on Fox: Hugo Chavez was the 24th hijacker!

[JanMichael]

24. Didn't we give those very same 911 guys safe passage too?

Or did they all sneak in stuffed in American Touristers?

[LuPeRcALiO]

27. safe passage and a handiwipe

to wipe the lipstick off their butts.

[T Roosevelt]

20. From everything I've read, young Iranians can't stand the mullahs

and they do love things western. But this guy's playing it up like there's no tomorrow.

[Julius Civitatus]

25. He's selling the same LIE they sold to get in Iraq: flowers and candy

Remember that one?

The Iraqis looove us?
They all hate Saddam?
If we go in and invade Iraq to depose Saddam, the Iraqis would welcome our troops with flowers and candy?
Remember?

They didn't even bother to change the stupid lie. These people are despicable! The hubris of these neocons is not just despicable, but dangerous.

[ElectroPrincess]

31. Yeah, but when push comes to shove, they'll go Nationalistic ...

Just like "the people" in Iraq who LOVE us.

On Edit: I don't care if you will give me blue jeans and lipstick. If you come, invade and occupy my country I'm going to fight you like there's no tommorw. <--- that's human nature.

[kittenpants]

36. yeah, they'll love the Americans a lot less if we bomb their houses. n/t

[Julius Civitatus]

23. Timmerman is a renown RIGHT WING writer and a Fox News favorite

He's just peddling lies based on one single source (like they did before Iraq) to start another war.

What I found the most despicable is how this mendacious fucker Kenneth Timmerman is selling THE SAME STORY they used to sell us Iraq:

"The Iranians really, really love us! They really, really looooove America! It's just the mullahs we need to get rid of, and then the Iranians will welcome us with flowers and candy..."

Motherfucking liar! The same lie! The same!

For the record, this Kenneth Timmerman is the same radical right-wing author that wrote a racist tirade against Jesse Jackson entitled "Shakedown : Exposing the Real Jesse Jackson."

He also wrote a hateful, xenophobic attack on the French because they didn't support the Iraqi adventure: "The French Betrayal of America"

And of course, he wrote some virulent anti-Clinton garbage in which he suggested Clinton was in cahoots with the communists China: "Selling Out America."

Check out all his work: Kenneth Timmerman's opus

Why does Jon Stewart bring this clown in his show and let him get away unscathed?

[Kurovski]

52. This guy sounds like he's part of the Scaife supported

stable of liars and hitmen, from the details you give here.

[Deja Q]

29. Saddam. Iran guy. Syria guy. N Korea 'pygmy'. China guy...

Man, everybody except Putin and the Saudi guy are mentioned as being behind 9/11. :crazy:

As for 'pygmy':

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Bush+pygmy&btnG=Google+Search

[ElectroPrincess]

30. Disgusting!

Also he keeps saying, "The average Iranian citizen LOVES Americans!" Such lies will not washed even with the corporate media pumping out * cheer leading propaganda 24/7. The American people are exhausted from being frightened and angry off and on since 9/11. They will NOT be able to whip up the sheeple into invading Iraq. Hell no one will believe any of the so called evidence they parade before us.

[kittenpants]

33. kick & nominated

everyone needs to know they are trying to recycle these lies.

[burythehatchet]

34. Jon has a code for his guests' books

If he leaves it laying on the desk when saying goodbye he thinks its bullshit, if he picks it up and shows the cover to the audience its worthwhile.

[Guaranteed]

37. Yes, I think I've noticed that.

He puts the book face down and shakes hands when they're whores.

[burythehatchet]

38. you got it.

He threw Newt's book on the floor at the opening of the show. I don't think he gets to choose all his guests, if you know what I mean.

[Guaranteed]

40. LOL! nt

[Gemini Cat]

35. Musical war for WMD's! Damn them.

Around and around the world we go. Where we land our ass's while playing our fun game of musical war is where we "will find" the elusive WMD's!!
Maybe.
Oh, and remember 9-11 too.
Don't forget 9-11.
Did you forget 9-11?
9-11.
9-11 Afghanistan, 9-11 Iraq, 9-11 Iran, 9-11 Syria, 9-11 Venezuela, 9-11 Cuba.

I hate these people. :cry:

[NVMojo]

39. the bush spinmachine is at it again! Invade, invade, the enemy is here now

[Richard Steele]

42. Yeah, wasn't Timmerman just PRECIOUS?

"9-11 was a joint Iranian/al Quaeda operation"
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

These guys are just UNBELIEVABLY brazen!
They really think that they can just say ANYTHING, and people will automatically forget everything they said before...

[kittenpants]

43. my sheeple mom-in-law already thinks Iranians are bad

simply because we are at war w/ Iraq and the two sound so similar. I'm serious, she can't keep her jingoistic hatred straight.
"Who is it I'm supposed to hate again?":argh:

[Chan790]

44. Never underestimate the stupidity of "the people"

They really think that they can just say ANYTHING, and people will automatically forget everything they said before...

Well...it's worked for them thus far. :sarcasm: Really, it all comes down to how stupid is the average American. As long as people keep buying this sort of halfcocked logic, the Goppers will keep selling it and the MSM will keep shoveling it under bright banners and headlines for ratings.

[Richard Steele]

45. I like your word 'Goppers', synonym for GAWPERS. Welcome to DU, Chan790!

Here's yer pie:

[LightningFlash]

46. Gawpers....

Crazy right-wing extremists.....Fascists..

[gordianot]

47. Wonder who scheduled Timmerman on TDS singing ** Gotterdamung

Did they force Stewart to do this? I think not, this is high Opera and hope Stewart sees it as such. For a comedy show this is as close to real news as we get and is close to art. They should do a parody of Wagner German Opera with Rice, Babs and Pickles as Valkyrie's picking up the bodies off the field invading Iran

All the elements for the Opera are here:

1. It was known that Al-Quida was in Iran before we invaded Iraq. So what is new? Deceit, betrayal, death

2. Think you have an insurgency now in Iraq try Iran? Watch the Iranian kids throw away their blue jeans and take up guns.

3. Iran is client state and is being armed by Russia who would just love to see them use new Russian missiles on a carrier task force. Grand battles and gory glory.

4. A cast of characters that defy description? Bush, Rummie, Putin, Dick, Ayatollahs, Insurgents, be-headings

5. The possibility of ending this in fireball. Yes Iran may actually have WMD's who is stupid enough to want to find out? Gotterdamung


When you think about it the last 5 years defies description beyond the weirdest techno novel, Opera, or Cinema.

Only problem is we can't close the book or walk out of the theater, there is not any art involved. This is real life. Comedy News Show on the Comedy Channel? Amazing

[jasmeel]

48. I think Timmerman said that we shouldn't invade, we should just

give the opposition a bunch of $$. I think I remember him saying that.

[kittenpants]

51. I think he said we should support the insurgency...

funny, because in Iraq 'insurgents' are called 'terrorists.' :(

[leesa]

49. No. BUSH planned 9-11.

[many a good man]

50. Shiite Iran and Wahabiist Al Qaeda

My instincts tell me they would make strange bedfellows. Not as strange as the supposed Saddam-Osama connection, but strange nonetheless.

Anybody have information on this?

[GoBlue]

53. And his credibility is...

http://www.okcbombing.org/News%20Articles/insightmag_032502.htm

[Swamp Rat]

54. Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran! ... Bomb Iraaan! ...

It's 2 minutes to Midnight my fellow humans. :scared:

[GoBlue]

55. These guys are so lame

they can't even think of new lies to sell. So they change the name.

[ngGale]

57. Everything is Iran now, they are setting up the...

same plan. They are going to pull the same MO - FGS!

[althecat]

58. So why is John Stewart selling this bill of goods?

I kept waiting for him to take the piss...

[stanwyck]

59. Timmerman seemed pretty crazy to me

I was surprised Stewart had him on as a guest cause the guy seemed loony. Really. He had "Runaway Bride" eyes. Maybe he's on medication. Or perhaps TDS has so many thoughtful, erudite guests that this guy suffered badly by comparison. I'm not familar with him. But his presence was alarming. I wanted to call 911 on his behalf.