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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:55 PM
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I propose a shift in focus: the DOWNING STREET COVERUP
As we contact the media and congress on a continuing basis, I believe we should be referencing the "Downing Street Coverup" and keep referencing the coverup until the white house responds with something other than "this is old news."

This is not old news, as we all know. The memo which contains the Downing Street minutes has never properly addressed by the president or his press secretary, and the media and Congress need to be hammered on the coverup that is taking place.

Here is what White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan had to say about the issue today:

Q Scott, on another topic, has the President or anyone else from the administration responded to the letter sent last month by Congressman John Conyers and signed by dozens of members of the House of Representatives, regarding the Downing Street memo? Has the President or anyone else responded?

McCLELLAN: Not that I'm aware of.

Q Why not?

McCLELLAN: Why not? Because I think that this is an individual who voted against the war in the first place and is simply trying to rehash old debates that have already been addressed. And our focus is not on the past. It's on the future and working to make sure we succeed in Iraq.

These matters have been addressed, Elaine. I think you know that very well. The press --

Q Scott, 88 members of Congress signed that letter.

McCLELLAN: The press -- the press have covered it, as well.

Q But, Scott, don't they deserve the courtesy of a response back?

McCLELLAN: Again, this has been addressed….


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Q Scott, on John Conyers, John Conyers is walking here with that letter again, as you have acknowledged from Elaine's comment. But 88 leaders on Capitol Hill signed that letter. Now, I understand what you're saying about him, but what about the other 88 who signed this letter, wanting information, answers to these five questions?

McCLELLAN: How did they vote on the war -- the decision to go to war in Iraq?

Q Well, you have two -- well, if that's the case, you have two Republicans who are looking for a timetable. How do you justify that?

McCLELLAN: I already talked about that.

Q I understand, but let's talk about this.

McCLELLAN: Like I said --

Q Well, just because -- I understand -- but if you're talking about unifying and asking for everyone to come together, why not answer, whether they wanted the war or not, answer a letter where John Conyers wrote to the President and then 88 congressional leaders signed? Why not answer that?

McCLELLAN: For the reasons I stated earlier. This is simply rehashing old debates that have already been discussed.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000963228

coverup
the Downing Street Coverup
the coverup by the president of the DSM
the White House coverup of the Downing Street Minutes
the coverup of the Downing Street Memo
DSM coverup
coverup

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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:57 PM
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1. I like it.
Kick.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:59 PM
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2. Well, when the media is complicit in the coverup, it will be difficult.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:08 PM
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9. The media is slow, but...
...they're reporting what happened today. MSNBC, CNN, and a lot of local papers across the country. And the two reporters who grilled McClellan were neither complicit with the coverup, nor timid.

In many ways, this is Day 1 of this story.

Now that the media is begrudgingly reporting on the "Downing Street Memo", we need them to begrudgingly report on the "Downing Street Coverup".

coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup coverup

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:08 AM
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24. Except that they're already nervous & trying to alibi themselves
with that cockamamie "AP didn't tell us" cover story. So far it's only the print media, but it's gonna spread.

BTW, I don't think Newsweek is gonna let go of this one.

Blood is flowing.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 10:59 PM
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3. poor scottie
yeah COVERUP covers it. my head's exploding with all the information at the hearings today. not much has been mentioned about jab at john bolton re the yellow cake. it is just beginning.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:00 PM
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4. McClellan: LOSER*LIAR! LOSERLIAR! LOSERLIAR! LOSERLIAR!!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:03 PM
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5. Countdown (msnbc) just referred to it as the coalition of the unwilling--
that was great.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:07 PM
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7. I actually agree with Buchannan--who just said that the country is moving
away from the President on the Irag--where he Jr--has invested everything. whow. msnbc NOW on countdown.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:03 PM
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6. I agree. "Coverup" is the operator that needs to be applied.
Neocons coverup their lies regarding O.I.L. (per Ray McGovern in his testimony at Conyers hearing, 16 June 2005) -- Oil, Israel, Logistics -- as the only reasons for America's illegal occupation of Iraq.

Bush's coverup of his murders in his lust for O.I.L. and power.

Rumsfeld and Gonzales constantly coverup torture and other atrocities.

Rumsfeld's coverup of the extensive airbase infrastructure being built in Iraq as to attack, quickly and easily, Iran & Syria (e.g., just google on Tallil if you doubt it).

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4173.htm


WE THE PEOPLE .... WILL NEVER FORGET

"... we sent our young people into harm's way without leveling with the American people." - Congresswoman Pelosi before Congress, 16 June 2005



Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - Impeachment of Bush and Cheney; indictment and prosecution of all members of the Bush regime who participated in the deception, should be campaign promises of any candidate worthy of our vote in the 2006 Congressional elections.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:10 PM
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10. Ohio Marcy Kaptur--said today--Congress is participating in a cover-uo
she said this at the hearing--and was referring to those in congress who did not attend the hearing or who opposed (had been talking of the little room assigned).
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:24 PM
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14. Yes, indeed, she did. She definitely gets 'coverup' and she knows ...
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 11:25 PM by understandinglife
.... it is the modus operandi of Bush and the neoconsters.

9/11 is an example of how far Bush and the neoconsters will go to coverup their actual and only objectives = O.I.L. (Ray McGovern has contributed much, but his succinct meme, O.I.L., is something we and humanity will all grow to appreciate more and more as we dismantle the neocons and rebuild America).

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - Impeachment of Bush and Cheney; indictment and prosecution of all members of the Bush regime who participated in the deception, should be campaign promises of any candidate worthy of our vote in the 2006 Congressional elections.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:07 PM
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8. What are they hiding...COVER UP !
Yep that is about right, It's called CYA...Covering your ass.
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assclown_bush Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:12 PM
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11. Great post.
This is a great way to approach the Downing Street Memo Cover up. I love it. And better yet, it's TRUE.

:bounce: :woohoo: :applause:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:18 PM
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12. I like it.
"Old news." Like the fact that Bush's foreign policy team was assembled and the Iraq invasion planned in 1998 - before anyone knew he would even run.

Like BushAdmin was warned by the FAA 57 times about hijacked airliners attacking buildings. Old news.

Like Gore won the 2000 Election - even in Florida. Old news.

What percentage of Americans have yet to hear this "old news?"

Old news = Coverup
MSM = Bush Propaganda Catapult
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:24 PM
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13. I agree make the MSM the INTERNET story
They are putting our kids(military)and our country in danger with this cover up, its time to take it to them. I know some veterans who are taking this cover up personally, because the media is putting their comrades in Iraq in danger, and the veterans don't take to kindly to that.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:26 PM
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15. Whenever anyone says "old news" we also must stress that if it
turns out that there were plans to go to war no matter what diplomacy metted out, that this was illegal. illegal



hmmmm impeachable offense?

blow job
or
illegal war
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:08 AM
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17. We always
knew Clinton was having sex with the ladies, So why was it so important for the Republicans and the media to get Clinton to admit it.

Well now the tables have turned. And * should answer the questions.






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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:06 AM
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23. private .vs public
I always thought it was only between Bill and Hillary -- no one else's business at all -- especially congresses. Not like he was the only one (and I don't care who is involved with who -- their life, their choice). Now -- if Monica was using this to get information and give it to someone else -- that's another story, but they were consensual experiences.

Bush won't aswer the questions, though, unless the media comes down on him hard.

Blackwell never answered the questions Conyers submitted, (more than once) -- tried to blow it all away.... now with Coingate and other things happening at the Ohio Statehouse I hope this all gets revisited...

Funny how the Republicans can get away with not answering questions -- and no one really holds them to the fire. I'm hoping that tide is turing on that, and the *people* will be a part of holding him to telling the truth.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-05 11:38 PM
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16. So who were the newsies putting McClellen's feet to the fire?
Elaine who? And there was someone else? I know I probably seem really dumb, but I don't watch tube, get my info here, don't cha know?
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friesianrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:14 AM
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18. Spin, spin, spin you evil bastard
Karma's a bitch. They'll all get what they deserve sooner or later - hopefully in the 2008 elections.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:29 AM
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19. The problem with 'cover ups' is that even Nixon was getting away
with most of it until it was learned that he was actually taping himself the whole time. Taping himself covering up and messing with the investigation that is.

I don't think we will be so lucky!

We can't get them on messing with an investigation since there is none. No official police or special prosecutor investigation. Iraq would not have come up in the 9/11 investigation. The Iraq War investigation already lays blame at the feet of faulty intelligence and not the WH.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:39 AM
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21. Downing Street MINUTES Coverup
Why? Woik wit me here.

The inevitable press reference to "memo" is the first attempt to minimize the significance of the document. Oh, it was "just" a memo.
NO. IT IS A DOCUMENT OF OFFICIAL RECORD! MINUTES OF AN OFFICIAL MEETING. MINUTES THAT STATE PLAINLY, "The intelligence was being FIXED around the policy."

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:32 AM
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20. I prefer "Downing Street Scandal".
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:43 AM
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22. Kick...
Coverup is great, because it keeps the media honest as well.
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