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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:24 AM
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Clark's Numbers---SOOOO, Should Hilary Run????
I must have a wire disconnected in my brain because for the life of me I cannot figure out what the logic is behind the spew I have been getting from all sectors of the media over the last 48 hours.

It started when the Newsweek poll showed Clark 2 points ahead of our other candidates. It continued in high gear after the CNN/Gallup Poll showed Clark quite a bit ahead of our other candidates and the big news of 49-46% ahead of Bush. After showing those stats I have seen one after another of these media whores come to the extemely logical (sarcasm) conclusion of asking: So, should Hilary run??? What the hell is that about?? I could see if they put our 10 candidates against Bush and came up with 99% for Bush and 1% for the Dem candidate. It would be logical then to ask if we needed Hil or someone to come in to save us. In fact, I found out more about that Gallup poll this morning on CNN----there's a lot more to it.

Clark was 3 points up on Bush. However, Kerry was 1 point up on Bush; and they said that a number of our other candidates (didn't specify which ones)were very, very close to Bush. In other words, gang, we have a hell of a lot of good candidates out there, the public is responding, and a number of our candidates can take this guy down!!! So, why the Hil talk?---let me guess...could it be that the whores and their masters are freaked and want to instantaneously put the Clinton swirl on top hoping to get the drumbeats of hate going, connect our candidates to Clinton by virtue of the fact that they are Dems, and thus hope to get the sheep back into line?? How come they don't ask: Is it time for McCain or other repukes to challenge Bush for the republican nomination?? I smell desperation from them all--you know, if you can't say something bad about a Dem today then bring up the Clintons!!! Maybe they should realize that even with all their free propaganda for Bush, he's sinking like a rock. Maybe they should start getting in touch with the American people.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:26 AM
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1. Yup
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:29 AM
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4. Will----I really smiled when I heard that Kerry was also ahead of Bush
I hope he gets his campaign charged up and on the march. That has to be good news to him. I think we are seeing what the public WANTS us to give them as a choice in Nov. '04 and I hope we are listening.
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Jennellist Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:28 AM
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2. Clinton himself has fueled the 'Should Hillary run? innuendo
Bill did it in a speech in Monterey California by suggesting that New Yorkers would forgive Hillary if she chose not to fulfill her Senate term by running for president.
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:29 AM
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3. As long as these whores keep
using Hillary's name, they don't have to discuss the candidates. This is the media whores way of blunting Clark's or any of the other candidates message, and this is the way they CONTROL the agenda.
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:32 AM
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5. They are scared shitless of Clark...
They figure shrub could beat Hillary, should she get the nomination. They also figure Hill would be a shoe-in for the Dem nomination should she run.

The most frightening possibility for the right is for Clark to be the Democratic nominee. They are spinning and smearing like crazy, and he's only been a candidate for a week.

I love the smell of media-whore panic-shit in the morning... Smells like victory!
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:42 AM
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6. Should McCain run?
You are right. If the pundits were honest, that's what they would be asking.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:45 AM
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7. How would McCain do
if a poll put his name next to the Dems?

I'm a Democrat and would not vote for McCain, but if a poll showed that McCain performed better against the Dem candidates than Bush, wouldn't the pundits be forced to admit that Bush is an unpopular president, even in his own party?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:52 AM
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8. Joe Conason says "NO" and that Bill should shut up about it!
That's what he said in a Salon article this morning which still has me ...well....I won't say.

Anyway he takes issue with most of our candidates and doesn't feel the Hillary speculation is helping anything.

I agree that it isn't. But, it's the media hyping it more than Bills mouth pushing it. He just plays along. (Can't blame him for teasing the press....look at what they did to him!...and Us) We all have our moments of bittesweet revenge now an them.......human nature..
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:58 AM
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9. You know, I would love to ask these assholes
who tear at all our candidates just what kind of a super candidate they would be happy with. Oh, wait, I know........they would prefer that the Dems not run candidates so they can just go to the cornation directly. Why don't they use just one one billionth of the time they do raking our candidates in investigating this mafia that took over the White House???---naw, that isn't what a good journalist is suppose to do, is it??----we've noticed.
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:04 AM
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10. feel exactly as you do, Starpass
I heard CNN jump straight from Clark & Kerry polling higher than Bush to a complete non sequitur about Hillary. You're right, they're just picking up on last week's right-wing propaganda output.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:06 AM
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11. That spew is a diversion to the real story which is...
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 09:20 AM by Kahuna
Clark's electability. They are trying every diversionary tactic in the book. Including that Clark is like, Ross Perot with his conspiracy theories. And Clark is a "stalking horse" (whatever the hell that is) for Hillary.

As you point out, there is no logic to the claim of Clark being a placeholder for Hillary. If Clark after less than a week is outpolling bush and the other dems, why in the hell would Hillary consider getting in. Clark effectively makes that issue moot.

Further, does anyone believe that Bill and Hill didn't think that Clark would do so well? So this bullshit about the Clintons trying to sabotage the dems is utter nonsense. Sabotage Dean, maybe. But that Clark is a tool to lose to bush so that Hillary can run in 2008 is nonsense. If they really wanted to make sure that the dems lost in '04 they sure as hell wouldn't have encourage Clark to run. They would have encouraged Clark to NOT run.
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:12 AM
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12. Kahuna--yep, I picked up on the Perot bullshit too this a.m.
What crap. I felt like saying that unfortunately for them that "this Perot" just stepped on their Bush in less than a week on the campaign trail. We need to keep pushing that Jr. is just like Papa--an arrogant ass who cares nothing about the troubles of the American people. The only difference he has a smarter VP----as in wicked Evil!!
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