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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 05:54 PM
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Ron Reagan, Jr.
Discuss.

He said some very good things on MSNBC around noon, est.

I like him.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 05:55 PM
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1. He is absolutely the best part on Ronald Reagan Sr.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:08 PM
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9. I agree ...
I have to admit that Ron and Nancy did one thing right in raising such an independent-minded son. (A non-Republican AND an atheist? That's SOME independent thinking there! And he's stayed married to the same woman for something like 20 years ... )
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 05:55 PM
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2. well, what did he say
I like him fine, but I have no idea what he said today.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 05:56 PM
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4. I like him too but he's too polite
Sometimes he lets the conservative woman blabber on waaay too long. And it's only because he's a nice guy. She's hideous.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/665903
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:36 PM
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17. I love Ron too ...but he lets that maddening woman spew on and on
and even apologizes for interrupting right wing blabber mouths.
Can't say he's got a mean bone in his body.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:03 PM
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7. Just was ripping into a right-wing thug
over DSM. Said how if the right could try and impeach Big Dogg over consensual sex then he feels we can impeach Shrub over DSM. Made a lot of sense.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:32 AM
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14. I associate myself with his comments!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 05:56 PM
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3. A good man.
He seems like a voice of reason. I am impressed with his insightful positions on many issues. It's a good thing to have him on tv.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 05:58 PM
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5. Takes One To Know One
Happy Father's Day H20
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:09 PM
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10. There you are!
I'd meant to send this to you to get your input and then, all of a sudden, you show up. It's relevant to some great work you did when I was just starting here, just a little different timing.

What do you think?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:18 AM
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13. I think it's a great thread!
I experienced a bit of trouble getting on DU last night, and so I wasn't able to read it until now. 5am is one of my favorite times of day .... the birds are out, but everything else is pretty quiet. I took my dog out, and we both sniffed the air and gave each other that, "There's a storm coming" look. I think your post says much the same. I like a nice storm in the morning. Kind of clears the air for the rest of the day......

I believe that, true to history, this administration has sown the seeds of its own distruction.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:06 PM
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15. Well, coming from you I take that as a very high compliment.
The synchronicity of you and your dog sniffing out the storm is enough to convince me. We're headed for a big one.

Take care!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:46 PM
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19. And with all the coming sun and rain...those seeds will grow fast.
Maybe as fast as Jack's bean stalk.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:03 PM
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6. Excellent article he authored (long but awesome)
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0804-14.htm

>>>>snip
As Bush's former Treasury secretary, Paul O'Neill, and his onetime "terror czar," Richard A. Clarke, have made clear, the president, with the enthusiastic encouragement of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz, was contemplating action against Iraq from day one. "From the start, we were building the case against Hussein and looking at how we could take him out," O'Neill said. All they needed was an excuse. Clarke got the same impression from within the White House. Afghanistan had to be dealt with first; that's where the actual perpetrators were, after all. But the Taliban was a mere appetizer; Saddam was the entrée. (Or who knows? The soup course?) It was simply a matter of convincing the American public (and our representatives) that war was justified.

The real—but elusive—prime mover behind the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden, was quickly relegated to a back burner (a staff member at Fox News—the cable-TV outlet of the Bush White House—told me a year ago that mere mention of bin Laden's name was forbidden within the company, lest we be reminded that the actual bad guy remained at large) while Saddam's Iraq became International Enemy Number One. Just like that, a country whose economy had been reduced to shambles by international sanctions, whose military was less than half the size it had been when the U. S. Army rolled over it during the first Gulf war, that had extensive no-flight zones imposed on it in the north and south as well as constant aerial and satellite surveillance, and whose lethal weapons and capacity to produce such weapons had been destroyed or seriously degraded by UN inspection teams became, in Mr. Bush's words, "a threat of unique urgency" to the most powerful nation on earth.

>>>>>snip
And chances are your America and George W. Bush's America are not the same place. If you are dead center on the earning scale in real-world twenty-first-century America, you make a bit less than $32,000 a year, and $32,000 is not a sum that Mr. Bush has ever associated with getting by in his world. Bush, who has always managed to fail upwards in his various careers, has never had a job the way you have a job—where not showing up one morning gets you fired, costing you your health benefits. He may find it difficult to relate personally to any of the nearly two million citizens who've lost their jobs under his administration, the first administration since Herbert Hoover's to post a net loss of jobs. Mr. Bush has never had to worry that he couldn't afford the best available health care for his children. For him, forty-three million people without health insurance may be no more than a politically inconvenient abstraction. When Mr. Bush talks about the economy, he is not talking about your economy. His economy is filled with pals called Kenny-boy who fly around in their own airplanes. In Bush's economy, his world, friends relocate offshore to avoid paying taxes. Taxes are for chumps like you. You are not a friend. You're the help. When the party Mr. Bush is hosting in his world ends, you'll be left picking shrimp toast out of the carpet.

>>>>>>snip
UNDERSTANDABLY, SOME SUPPORTERS of Mr. Bush's will believe I harbor a personal vendetta against the man, some seething resentment. One conservative commentator, based on earlier remarks I've made, has already discerned "jealousy" on my part; after all, Bush, the son of a former president, now occupies that office himself, while I, most assuredly, will not. Truth be told, I have no personal feelings for Bush at all. I hardly know him, having met him only twice, briefly and uneventfully—once during my father's presidency and once during my father's funeral. I'll acknowledge occasional annoyance at the pretense that he's somehow a clone of my father, but far from threatening, I see this more as silly and pathetic. My father, acting roles excepted, never pretended to be anyone but himself. His Republican party, furthermore, seems a far cry from the current model, with its cringing obeisance to the religious Right and its kill-anything-that-moves attack instincts. Believe it or not, I don't look in the mirror every morning and see my father looming over my shoulder. I write and speak as nothing more or less than an American citizen, one who is plenty angry about the direction our country is being dragged by the current administration. We have reached a critical juncture in our nation's history, one ripe with both danger and possibility. We need leadership with the wisdom to prudently confront those dangers and the imagination to boldly grasp the possibilities. Beyond issues of fiscal irresponsibility and ill-advised militarism, there is a question of trust. George W. Bush and his allies don't trust you and me. Why on earth, then, should we trust them?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:04 PM
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8. Thanks for the link
:hi:
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NeoTraitors Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:09 PM
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11. I like him a great deal.
Ron is polite and a 'nice guy,' but he gets his points across none-the-less. Could bring some 'Reagan Democrats' back home.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:28 PM
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12. I like him mucho, but what's his position on the war?
His speech at the DEM convention was espectaculo and magnifico.

A bright spot in what was a lethally dull affair.
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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:26 PM
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16. Dear Ron, Please stay off small aircraft.
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:37 PM
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18. He's definitely improving.
He has gotten better. I saw his "coast to coast" program on Friday morning on MSNBC and he did well. Segment was called "Downing Street Debacle". Held his own politely. Made some good points, politely. I found myself liking him.

(and also thinking that Bush makes Ronald Reagan seem like the good old days!)

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