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ZRB Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:55 AM
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AAR Ratings?
I just did a google search for "Air America Ratings" and found one article after another (many of them, of course, from right-wing sites) claiming that Air America's ratings are in trouble.

Is there any truth to his? I simply cannot believe that this network could be struggling in times like this. Yet, the quality of advertising is still quite poor.

Should we be worried at all? If this network doesn't last, we're in even bigger trouble than I ever could have imagined.

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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:58 AM
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1. Nope, just another right-wing lie as far as I can tell.
It's membership is expanding and so on and wouldn't be surprised if they nail down more stations.

More at Rawstory. http://www.rawstory.com
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ZRB Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:12 AM
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2. Thanks
Does Raw Story have a search feature? I couldn't find one.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:21 AM
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3. It should, but you have sign up to be called a member. n/t
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:47 AM
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4. Here Ya Go...
http://www.radioandrecords.com/RRRatings/

Radio and Records has the 12+ numbers...just find the market with the AAR affiliate list.

AAR is doing just fine right now. Advertising in radio overall is waaaaaay down. A lot of the same "poor" ads are heard on the hate radio shows as well. Remember, radio relies on advertising that has little to do with politics and a lot to do with economics. When companies scale back and downsize, the first thing that usually gets cut is the advertising budget and radio, thanks to deregulation, has fallen to the bottom of the media food chain. Most stations take anything they can get these days.

Right now AAR owes a ton to Clear Channel...who owns the most AAR affiliates and the new deal they just struck with XM that will guarantee they have satellite clearance for the forseeable future. The network has done very well in its year plus of operation, but this isn't the only Progressive and liberal talk on the radio...there are a lot of public programs...most not rated that are worth listening to and supporting. Democracy Now and Pacific are great examples.

AAR's ratings won't blow you away, and there are many variables that are rarely explained that can give one a better picture of these numbers. Many of the stations are low power and don't cover the entire survey area (a big disadvantage) thus you're trying to compare a 50,000 signal to a 1,000 watt one.

If you want some good ammo to throw back at a wingnut...look at the ratings of the Salem Broadcasting stations. This is the company that operates primarily religious stations (including The Fish) but also "The Patriot"...a network of the worst hate talkers. They've got Laura Ingraham, Hugh Hewitt, Savage...and Salem's gone on a big spending spree in recent years buying up stations to get this format on across the country. No ratings needed here...and none are generated.

For example...in Detroit:

WDTW-AM Clear Channel Talk 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.5

WDTK-AM Salem News/Talk 0.8 0.7 0.0 0.4 0.3


The sets of numbers refer to the last 5 quarterly reports...and note that WDTW didn't become an AAR affiliate until April...the 0.5 is their first "book" and a big difference from the goose-eggs for the year before that.

WDTK also in a relatively new station. The 0.8 and 0.7 are from a former owner and format...the 0.0, 0.4 and 0.3 are for "The Patriot"...and, as you can see, AAR blew the Salem station away in it's first book compared to Salem's 3.

I was going to examine New York, but while I found WLIB's numbers...I couldn't find any for WMCA..."The Patriot" there. They didn't show any numbers at all.

The fun with ratings is how you can play with these numbers all day...and if you're good at it, people throw money at you. LOL.

Cheers!


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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:10 AM
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5. Air America is doing great.
The best thing we can do is support it finacially and support those who advertise on it. Each day, keep supporting it, sending some bucks... it is on the right track and certainly more of a contender than anyone would admit 18 months ago. Don't worry about the ratings, just keep listening, keep supporting. That is all it needs.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:42 AM
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6. I take online marketing surveys and go out of my way to mention AAR
Also, I have an AAR bumper sticker.

You know, I was thinking... can we do freeway blogging for AAR?
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