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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:29 AM
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SEX SLAVERY
This is a ploy by Karl Rove. They inserted this into the UN speech for a couple of reasons. They need SOMETHING that pundits can applaud about the speech. Also, when critics denounce the speech as a failure, the admin. can denounce critics for supporting sex slavery. It's that simple. Does anyone think they really care about sex slavery? I guarantee you it's them and their buddies who are benefitting from it. It's only bush and his pals who are rich enough to afford sex slaves...
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:31 AM
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1. big diversion
although it's a legitimate issue. to be sure, and an outrage that so little has been done about it.

BTW, Russia is one of the prime exporters of sex slaves. Wonder if Bush will raise the matter with Putin at Camp David this weekend. Nah, who am I kidding....
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:33 AM
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2. neal bush neal bush neal bush
neal bush neal bush neal bushneal bush neal bush neal bushneal bush neal bush neal bushneal bush neal bush neal bushneal bush neal bush neal bush.......
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:40 AM
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4. yep, in Thailand
MEN BEHAVING BADLY, PART 2
NEIL BUSH is not helping the none-too-shiny image of presidential brothers. In his divorce proceedings last week he admitted that he had "had sexual intercourse with perhaps three or four — I don't remember the exact number — women" while on business trips to Thailand and Hong Kong.

http://www.time.com/time/people/20030722/3.html


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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:50 AM
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9. So, did the shrubster just fix it so Neil can deduct his Thialand parties
as business expenses? "Yeah, well, I was doing important research for my brother the pResident.."

And yes, it was a Rovian ploy to divert attention and critism.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:56 AM
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19. Incredibly stupid or ....what?
Dubya HAS to know this information about Neil is all over the place. Why, oh why, would he make himself vulnerable to having this played out even more publicly by making it a keystone of the UN speech?

I can't believe his speech writers are so incredibly stupid!
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iambe Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:36 AM
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3. classic bait-and-switch
Relying on the ignorance of the audience. It's disgusting and I really doubt people will fall for it, but who knows anymore...
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:50 AM
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17. ASK BUSH ABOUT THE NORTHERN ALLIANCE & THEIR SEX SLAVE
practices.

Seems that the much bush loved northern alliance who are now back in power have a centuries long tradition of enslaving 9 year old boys for sex slaves.

Might want to bring that up at appropriate moments, that in fact, the bush regime itself helped reinstate the sexual slavery of adolescent boys in Afghanistan when they forced the Taliban out of power.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:41 AM
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5. Those were my exact thoughts Give the home audience something
juicey to think about, in place of the failures and lies that are so plentiful.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:42 AM
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6. My husband thinks it was a threat.
He thinks Bush is indirectly threatening to use the women and children of countries who won't go along with him as sex slaves.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:43 AM
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7. Apparently, * hasn't gotten the reports of children selling themselves in
the streets of baghdad in order to subsist. The children who came out of an orphanage which the "coalition" claims to be a children's jail. I wonder of the sex slave thing is on the resolution?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:47 AM
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8. Boy, was that ever good.
I was hoping he'd come out against genocide, necrophilia, and cannbalism too.
Those are good things to be against.
:eyes:
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:07 AM
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10. Time to come up with the goods on W in Mexico?
Are there any survivors?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:09 AM
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11. the goods are here.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:11 AM
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12. Republicans know a lot about this: Google "Craig Spence"
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:12 AM
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13. Ok if you read this
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:39 AM
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15. HOOOOOO----LEEEEEEEEEE SHEEEEEITTTTTT!!!!!
THAT, is just plain evil. NOW, I AM SCARED.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:53 AM
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18. there's a lot more
Remember, all this stuff was covered in the mainstream press (even WP picked up this story from WT) - and then it was all hushed up.

Remember what happened in Belguim a few years later (the White Protest?) ? Remember the Asia Pacific Economic Summit in Seattle?

These stories just happen over and over again every few years, but they just drop off the radar screen - just like the Priest scandals did.

I think it's high time an enterprising journalist starts picking 2 and 2 together so to speak.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:39 PM
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23. I have been trying...
But everytime I do I am ridiculed and told it is wrong to go after em because of their sexual proclivities.
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elfwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:16 AM
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14. Link please??
Could someone post a link for this speech?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 11:42 AM
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16. Where the fuck did that shit come from?????????????
This was one of *'s most disturbing speeches he has given. This man is out of touch with reality. He has no idea of what is going on in the world today. He's becoming one scary man.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:08 PM
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25. Yeah! My take as well!
I was sitting there tolerating his idiot voice and syntax (?), and then he goes into this wierd-ass shit. I flipped the channel and came back, and he was still babbling about it.

A diversion?? I dunno, I thought it was just strange as hell. First time I have ever heard of it.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:02 PM
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20. If your thinking is correct...
it might dredge up Dyncorp's Korsovo 'sex trade' scandals...

"Middle-aged men having sex with 12- to 15-year-olds was too much for Ben Johnston, a hulking 6-foot-5-inch Texan, and more than a year ago he blew the whistle on his employer, DynCorp, a U.S. contracting company doing business in Bosnia."
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/163052.html
also:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/VAR207A.html
also UN involvement
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/GUA108A.html
also
http://www.dyncorp-sucks.com/pimps.htm

But will it hurt dyncorp/cheney more than the UN and Clark?

Might be just an attempt to reach out to boost 'relevency factor' for women voters--think of the 87 billion as helping to build womens' shelters!!



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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:10 PM
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21. maybe it's a threat to UN officials who are involved?
?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 12:20 PM
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22. That is one of the first things that came to my mind as well.
As well as: Does Dyncorps have contracts in Iraq?

Now the sarcasm - is the industry filling up a market need due to Dyncorps presence?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 02:15 PM
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24. That and Neil Bush and Craig Spence
It may be a pandora's box he really shouldn't open...
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:11 PM
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26. If we are gong to go after countries for sex slavery
Shouldn't we start with Saudi Arabia, Brunai and all of the other Islamic monarchies?
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Osolomia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 05:54 PM
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27. FYI, for DUers who prefer to dwell on the facts, not fantasies

Bush announced this 2 weeks ago, the day after a bipartisan majority in the House voted to lift the travel ban against Cuba despite Bush's threatened veto.

U.S. Clamps Down on 'Human Trafficking'
Wednesday September 10, 2003 9:49 PM

By DEB RIECHMANN
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The United States will impose economic sanctions on Burma, Cuba and North Korea for failing to take steps to stop ``human trafficking,'' such as forcing people to work or engage in sexual acts against their will, the White House said Wednesday.

... ``The president is committed to leading the fight to eradicate trafficking in persons, which according to our recent estimate involves up to 900,000 people a year being moved across international borders into forced labor, sexual exploitation and other forms of modern-day slavery,'' McClellan said.

``These important actions will punish the perpetrators and help the victims of this heinous crime around the world,'' he said.

In June, the State Department alleged in an annual report that 15 countries had made no significant efforts to stop trafficking in humans and could face sanctions under the Trafficking Victims Protection Act. Officials said sanctions could include voting against loans to the countries from the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.

... ``The steps taken by these countries stand in contrast to the continuing failure of Burma, Cuba, and North Korea to make significant efforts to comply with the act's minimum standards,'' he said. ``As a result, the president decided to impose sanctions on these countries in accordance with the act.''

More...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3131754,00.html

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