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vogonjiltz Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 02:42 PM
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Wolfowitz says Zimbabwe evictions 'a tragedy'
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050618/ts_nm/zimbabwe_wolfowitz_dc>
I suppose he would know wouldn't he?
While agree with that sentment I just can't take anything Wolfie says seriously.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 02:47 PM
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1. "it must do enormous damage to development prospects for the country"
No shit, Sherlock?


Keith’s Barbeque Central

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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 02:52 PM
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2. The real tragedy is our elections, not evictions.
Why doesn't he come clean with the real tragedy, happening right here in the USA?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 02:52 PM
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3. Dare I say that I agree with Wolfowitz?
I dare say that I do.

It happens about once a year.
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 03:04 PM
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4. Keep in mind that
Wolfowitz is part of the same regime which does this to American families countless times. Families are thrown out into the street, even if they tried to work as hard as they could, because of ludicrous housing charges and terribly low government support. He and his buddies laugh when the same kind of thing happens in America, neglect the pain it causes and actually perpetuate it.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:18 PM
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10. What Wolfy did to Indonesia
But it's bad now, right, Paul?

I don't think any country has leaders who committ injustice and get away with it as much as ours. Maybe China or Russia.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 03:05 PM
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5. Zimbabwe, in the last 5 years, has become a basket case.
And that's in the view of countries that themselves could be viewed as basket cases.

Drought, mismanagement, HIV, pre-existing poverty, political repression, and now ... the "Drive Out the Trash" Campaign (which is to say, "drive poor Zimbabweans that don't vote for Mugabe out of the cities").

Just because * likes Tex-Mex food doesn't mean I shouldn't.

Just because Wolfowitz says something doesn't mean it's a lie.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 03:10 PM
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7. Shouldering the white man's burden today Wolfie?
Perle's of wisdom from our #2 freefom fighter. Fix bayonets Wolfie, we're behind ya. Far far far behind ya.
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bonzotex Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 03:38 PM
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8. Great point and what did Bushco do to prevent this?
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 03:44 PM by bonzotex
They did fuck all nothing, because though even the white people were being dispossessed in Zimbabwe and the whole place was being flushed own the shitter, there was no profit for Bush's buddies in the outcome either way. It's Africa after all. Why doesn't Bushco care about Darfur either? Same thing, except Sudan has oil so they play nice with the Sudanese Government.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 07:01 PM
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11. Very little.
Every time he or Powell said anything about it, they were racist colonialist oppressors seeking to enslave the Zimbabweans. There's a little issue of sovereignty and no threat to his neighbors--if there was no excuse with Iraq, there's less with Zimbabwe.

Blair was the one to take the lead on Zimbabwe--it's Commonwealth, with suspended membership I think. Even then, there was the usual racist-colonialist-oppressor jargon. Even DUers tried to say that it was ok--Mugabe's a hero of sorts.

Eh. Zimbabwe's a basket case, the surrounding countries don't have much of a problem with it, there's little we can do except whine.
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 03:09 PM
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6. Something to remember...
Wolfowitz and the Bush admn. causes such evictions in the US all the time with their policies. Hard working families are thrown out on the street because of government apathy, neglect and dare I say lack of simply caring. The Bush admn. perpetuates the same thing here through action or inaction, and the terrible pain it causes is just as horrible.

Just picture one of the last scenes in "Roger & Me", when that family is being thrown out of their house on Christmas Eve, presents, tree and all.
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bonzotex Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:02 PM
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9. Wolfowitz and the World Bank
Wolfowitz is a pig in wet shit with an endless slop trough in front of him. He can tell the truth or lie or whatever, but the World Bank has subsidized many of these National tragedies by it's Corporate dovoted lending practices. The "development" money goes primarily into the pockets of Nation's elites and the big Corporations hired to complete giant boondoggle projects. The rich elites then bail out or are kicked out (or killed) then the Corporations bail out. The Nations themselves are left with a pile of debt and usually nothing beneficial for it's people to show for it.

To their credit, the World Bank has been trying in the last few years to stop it's ridiculously counterproductive practices. The World Bank can and could be a real positive instituion for change and development. In comes wolfie.

Don't count on any reform under wolfie no matter what he says. Look at any "failed" Nation state since the late 1950s and you will find failed World Bank loans and failed World Bank financed projects, smiling American and European contractors that walked away with dump trucks full of cash contributed by donor Nations to make loans that are never repaid. Wolfowitz is there to make sure that gravy train stays rolling.

Wolfowitz is right where he wants to be. Be very afraid.
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