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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:26 PM
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Herbert in NYTimes: Someone Else's Child
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 11:31 PM by understandinglife
Someone Else's Child

By BOB HERBERT
Published: June 20, 2005

It has become clearer than ever that Americans do not want to fight George W. Bush's tragically misguided war in Iraq.

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If the United States had a draft (for which there is no political sentiment), its warriors would be drawn from a much wider swath of the population, and political leaders would think much longer and harder before committing the country to war.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/20/opinion/20herbert.html?hp





http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4173.htm


WE THE PEOPLE .... WILL NEVER FORGET

"... we sent our young people into harm's way without leveling with the American people." - Congresswoman Pelosi before Congress, 16 June 2005



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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:30 PM
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1. The way I look at it,
if more freeps voted in the last 2 elections (alledgedly), then there's more of them to be drafted. Right?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:35 PM
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2. "loudest of the flag-waving hawks were those who were safely beyond ..."
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 11:35 PM by understandinglife
You can still find plenty of folks arguing that we have to stay the course, or even raise the stakes by sending more troops to the war zone. But from the very start of this war the loudest of the flag-waving hawks were those who were safely beyond military age themselves and were unwilling to send their own children off to fight.



Clear enough for even a war criminal, neoconster, chickenhawk to understand.


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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:47 PM
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3. If I got the call I sure as hell wouldn't go.
I'm a little beyond their ideal age bracket, but I'd still like the opportunity to tell Bush that he could go fuck himself.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:48 PM
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4. Herbert: "It's easy to be macho when you have nothing at risk."
It's easy to be macho when you have nothing at risk. The hawks want the war to be fought with other people's children, while their own children go safely off to college, or to the mall. The number of influential American officials who have children in uniform in Iraq is minuscule.

ibid: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/20/opinion/20herbert.html?hp



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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:43 AM
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5. Herbert: "I don't know how you win a war that your country doesn't ..."
... want to fight. We sent too few troops into Iraq in the first place and the number of warm bodies available for Iraq and other military missions going forward is dwindling alarmingly. The Bush crowd may be bellicose, but for most Americans the biggest contribution to the war effort is a bumper sticker that says "support our troops," and maybe a belligerent call to a talk radio station.

ibid: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/20/opinion/20herbert.html?hp



Peace.


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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:21 PM
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6. Kick
This is a very powerful article, the first attack on the 101st Keyboardists. Good for him.
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