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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:19 AM
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Poll question: Poll on Election Fraud. Please look at link before answering.
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 02:33 AM by Quixote1818
Please take the time to look at this presentation. After you are done then answer the poll questions. Thanks

http://www.electionfraud2004.org/presentation/index.html







If the presentation impresses you please send out to media outlets:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm


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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:21 AM
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1. 80% of our votes counted by two companies, is their a DUer that still
questions that the election was stolen!?!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:24 AM
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2. I was torn until I saw the presentation.
But I am always the last person to be convinced.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 03:17 AM
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3. Always believed it was stolen,....that more will be stolen.
Excellent slide show IMO.

DemEx
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:29 AM
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4. Other; objection to the wording of the poll
This is a great slide show that seems to take care of what at least for me has been my problem with the presentation of the election fraud issue: Everyone has been running around with their head cut off and until this I hadn't seen anything which organized the facts into a readable and reasonable presentation.

I have always thought that there was some sort of election fraud in 2004. At the very least the system is terrible and full of flaws. However I don't like the phrasing of a "stolen election" because that puts the focus on past elections. 2004 is over. Whether it is stolen or not you're not going to get to hang Bush for it because as we keep pointing out, there is/was no paper trail. What is important is to convince people, democrats and republicans (I'm not talking about Bush or Frist but about ordinary people) that the system is terrible, full of falws, clearly unreliable, and therefore needs to be changed.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:35 AM
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5. The DU had great election information and stats...
I'm not sure there are any of us who are not yet convinced there was election fraud. Glad you are seeing the light. :)
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 04:56 AM
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6. That's what I said
I said the DU had/has great election information/stats. What I meant by "Everyone has been running around with their head cut off and until this I hadn't seen anything which organized the facts into a readable and reasonable presentation," was that everyone had a great graph on this or that, but no one had ever (at least from what I'd seen) grouped it into a presentation.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:53 AM
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10. I saw some good info but this presentation put it all together for me.
Sometimes you don't have time to look at a piece hear and a piece their. This makes you sit and really absorb everything.
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Ani Yun Wiya Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:05 AM
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7. there is/was no paper trail...
What difference would a paper trail make?


NONE.

After the 2000 election farce a paper trail was made plain as day.



At this website as well as to such luminaries as Palast and Kucinich.

The same data was given to a host of others, Bev Harris included.

Guess what, NOT ONE thing has happened in damn near three years.

It was positive proof of fraud and zip, nada was the result.

And now even the thread is buried in the archives.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=49624&mesg_id=49624&page=
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 05:32 AM
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8. good presentation .....It's a pity we have no mass media
in this country..
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 07:41 AM
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9. kick
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:21 AM
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11. 2000,2002 and 2004 were stolen.
every election, since evoting started, was stolen.
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