Robert Kennedy Jr. on Imus@7:30am Eastern

[Jeanette in FL]

to discuss his article in Rolling Stone on childhood vaccines and Government coverups. He has been cancelled on other "news" programs. Imus won't let this issue die. Should be interesting. He is scheduled to be on at 7:30 am.

[H2O Man]

1. Great!!!

Thanks for letting us know. I'll get things set up to record it.

[joanski0]

2. Thanks. Going to turn on TV

right NOW!

[cthrumatrix]

3. IMUS said Tweey has no "guts" to cover it !

[The Backlash Cometh]

30. Imus is as gutless as Tweety.

I'll never forget his lukewarm endorsement of Kerry. I don't know why he bothered.

And, btw, why didn't anyone pick up on a show that Imus made about the same time where he made a comment that he was contacted by someone in the Bush Administration asking about giving a donation to his wife's Ranch charity? He said something like, why are they contacting me? They should call her, it's her charity.

Knowing what we know about the Bush Administration, why didn't we see this as an attempt to soften Imus's endorsement of Kerry? IMHO, it worked.

[cthrumatrix]

31. can't disagree there .... for a change IMUS showed "some spine"

and told America that "we really have no press"

[cthrumatrix]

4. This is the article that Robert Kennedy Jr. wrote :

Deadly Immunity
By Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Salon.com

Thursday 16 June 2005

A Salon/Rolling Stone joint investigation.
When a study revealed that mercury in childhood vaccines may have caused autism in thousands of kids, the government rushed to conceal the data - and to prevent parents from suing drug companies for their role in the epidemic.



(Image: Salon.com)

In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Ga. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session - only private invitations to 52 attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva, and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly "embargoed." There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left.

The federal officials and industry representatives had assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency's massive database containing the medical records of 100,000 children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines - thimerosal - appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. "I was actually stunned by what I saw," Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants - in one case, within hours of birth - the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children.

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But instead of taking immediate steps to alert the public and rid the vaccine supply of thimerosal, the officials and executives at Simpsonwood spent most of the next two days discussing how to cover up the damaging data. According to transcripts obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, many at the meeting were concerned about how the damaging revelations about thimerosal would affect the vaccine industry's bottom line.

"We are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits," said Dr. Robert Brent, a pediatrician at the Alfred I. duPont Hospital for Children in Delaware. "This will be a resource to our very busy plaintiff attorneys in this country." Dr. Bob Chen, head of vaccine safety for the CDC, expressed relief that "given the sensitivity of the information, we have been able to keep it out of the hands of, let's say, less responsible hands." Dr. John Clements, vaccines advisor at the World Health Organization, declared flatly that the study "should not have been done at all" and warned that the results "will be taken by others and will be used in ways beyond the control of this group. The research results have to be handled."

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The drug companies are also getting help from powerful lawmakers in Washington. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, who has received $873,000 in contributions from the pharmaceutical industry, has been working to immunize vaccine makers from liability in 4,200 lawsuits that have been filed by the parents of injured children. On five separate occasions, Frist has tried to seal all of the government's vaccine-related documents - including the Simpsonwood transcripts - and shield Eli Lilly, the developer of thimerosal, from subpoenas. In 2002, the day after Frist quietly slipped a rider known as the "Eli Lilly Protection Act" into a homeland security bill, the company contributed $10,000 to his campaign and bought 5,000 copies of his book on bioterrorism. Congress repealed the measure in 2003 - but earlier this year, Frist slipped another provision into an anti-terrorism bill that would deny compensation to children suffering from vaccine-related brain disorders. "The lawsuits are of such magnitude that they could put vaccine producers out of business and limit our capacity to deal with a biological attack by terrorists," says Andy Olsen, a legislative assistant to Frist.

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http://www.truthout.org/issues_05/061605HA.shtml

[Cobalt Violet]

5. Thanks for the info.

:hi: :pals:

[joanski0]

6. Please welcome Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

Kennedy: I got into this because I'm an attorney for the NDC... in 19 states it is unsafe to eat the fish because of mercury in the fish... Instead of strengthening the law, bush* is weaking the law. ... . I started looking into it, talking to doctors, etc. It is clear that the govt. agencies that are supposed to protect us and in cahoots with the pharms industries.

Chris Matthews said he didn't have any interest in this. Said it wasn't his crusade.

Matthews doesn't have any guts. Kennedy said this should be everybody's crusade. ... These people have literally poisoned an entire generation of children. Taling about studies and how horrendesously toxic this stuff is. They can inject it into mice, and cause autism in the mice.

[joanski0]

11. Autism was unknown until the 1930's.

It exploded after 1989. One in every 66 children has it. The defenders of it in our government say its vague, but we're getting rid of it. Now they are shipping it abroad.

This issue is a sidetrack for me. Do you see what this does to families. This shatters them. Healthy kids are given these shots. By late afternoon, they are having seizures. Costs $70,000 per year to take care of them for the rest of their lives. These people know this, and are still injecting kids.

The stonewall that you hit when you try to talk about this issue!

Kennedy: I think that people like you and me have to keep telling the truth. The scientific evidence is so overwhelming. It's amazing that these guys continue to champion it. They are giving it all over the world now. China now has 1.8 million cases of autism. (He cited other countries that how have autism). You think Iraq has been bad for our foreign policy, what's going to happen when they find out that we are using foreign policy to destroy the brain of their children.

The people who are against an investigation are the top regulators of the CDC, etc. It's an institutional bureaucratic coverup. It's so sickening. The science is so clear that this is deadly!

[cthrumatrix]

7. this is going to cause a NATIONAL outrage .... FRIST is cooked!

He, the rethugs and the pharma's are trying to cover themselves from lawsuits.... and worse.

[cthrumatrix]

8. giving to kids in the 3rd wolrd now...and they know it causes harm...why??

this makes me think that there is MUCH more to this ...other than money for Eli Lilly

[cthrumatrix]

9. MEDIA is blocking release of this story --- IMUS does deserve credit

for having Kirby and Kennedy on his show.

[cthrumatrix]

10. Kennedy calls it an "institutional, beauracratic cover-up" !

[cthrumatrix]

12. Frist and Santorum have "covered this up".... the RW covering for the drug

companies like Eli Lilly !!!

[cthrumatrix]

13. "hopeless to go up against pharmaceuatical companies" ...???? PRESS

will not divulge "wrong doing".

Connect the dots.... Domestic and International "harm to a generation of children".

Govt/CDC and others cover-up. The Media allows this to happen...???

WHY do TPTB want "our children" to receive this drug?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

14. Thank you for the heads up. How many more crimes are we going

to allow them to commit against us and our children? All in the name of the holy dollar.......

[cthrumatrix]

22. Who is telling Frist and Santorum and CDC to cover-up ??????

Corporations that run our world.

[H2O Man]

15. Robert was great!

I think that he was really powerful. And I think that Imus did a heck of a good job, too. He gave Robert 25 minutes, commercial free. He identified other media people who lack the spine to let Robert speak to the public.

[welshTerrier2]

16. Imus: "they tell me it's hopeless to go up against the pharma. industry"

and then he added, after listening to RFK Jr., "but maybe it's not" ...

many people, and many DU'ers, don't like Imus because he's frankly a total ass ... but man, that was quite an interview he did with RFK Jr. ... it really highlighted the way big corporations control not only our government but our media as well ...

Imus talked about how the truth about thimerasol is being kept from the public ... he stated that the only shows David Kirby, who wrote the book called "Evidence of Harm" exposing the dangers of themerisol, has been allowed to appear on were the Imus show and Gerafalo's show on AAR ... he said Tweety refused to cover the topic because he was a coward (implying he was afraid of the pharmaceutical industry) ...

RFK Jr. made the critical point that a major part of American foreign policy has been our export of childhood vaccinations ... he pointed to a substantial rise in autism rates in China that may be linked to these vaccines ... and he said that world opinion towards the US would be incredibly damaged if a link between thimerasol and autism is eventually proven ...

[joanski0]

18. What was Imus saying about Evan Thomas

of Newsweek. Is Thomas going to cover it or not?

This Admin. sure doesn't like truth-telling.

[cthrumatrix]

23. He siad it was a "news story" which means NOBODY wants to

touch it.

[leftchick]

17. It is in the Flu vaccines as well?? OMG....

For the first time in his ten years of life I had my son get a flu vaccine this past winter. On advice from his Doctor. Now I am freaked out. :(

[CottonBear]

19. There will not be enough flu vaccine AGAIN this year.

Chiron (sp?), the American company which produces the vaccines in England, announced that they will not produce enough vaccine for the American public for this upcoming flu season.
:wtf: Mexico guarantees flu vaccine to all of its vulnerable citizens but no the US?
We are being screwed by * and Gang daily. I missed a week of work this year because of the flu. I was incredibly sick. I had 103 degress temp, nasuea, chills, sweats, delerium. lost 12 pounds, & lost a week of work.

[leftchick]

20. I want to know if they use the mercury preservative in the Flu vaccine

My son had a single dose vial. I hope that means he was not exposed.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

39. An Aside on the flu vaccine - there will be a shortage until the

price is driven up to new highs and then the "its a miracle" pharmaceutical companies will find enough for every one. My mother HAD to have a flue vaccine last year. The doctor found "some" at only $100.00 per shot. Just another bilking of America.

[LiberalEsto]

21. Just making more Deltas

Re-read "Brave New World" on how they deliberately poisoned some fetuses to make them unintelligent but obedient workers for the dirty jobs. Hmmm.

[cthrumatrix]

24. we need to flood the phones and get the corruption EXPOSED

[CTyankee]

25. Does anyone know why RFKjr.'s voice is so strange?

I just heard him yesterday on Ring of Fire radio program and I thought maybe he was recovering from throat surgery.

[H2O Man]

26. Most people

are interested in the content of his message.

[CTyankee]

27. me, too, just wondering. That's all

[KharmaTrain]

28. Sounds Like RFK Jr. To Me...

Always had that raspy voice. His father did as well...and generally spoke softly, never yelled.

I imagine RFK Jr. has been doing a ton of interviews in recent days and a lot of traveling...thing that can wear on a person's voice. Clinton has a similar problem.

Being a disciple of his father, watching RFK Jr. gives me goosebumps. He's speaks like his father...including the passion. Part of me is glad he's stayed in the shadows all these years as he's become a great advocate for truly important causes.

[H2O Man]

29. He's the top environmental attorney

in the country. Watching him, especially in person, indeed gives one goosebumps. He is a lot like his father. I think his father would be very proud of the work Robert Jr does.

[cthrumatrix]

32. therefore TPTB do not give this guy "any press".... it's light on the

darkness"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

33. His voice is always raspy. I also get the feeling he's nervous with public

interviews. I personally listen to the intelligent content and humanity of his message. I wish he would reconsider running for AG of NY, we really need him here in public service.

[cthrumatrix]

34. we need to suport his "exposing" the CDC/Frist and Pharma

[KharmaTrain]

35. They're Very Nervous About Politics

A couple years ago they wanted Chris Kennedy to run for Congress. While he could have had the nomination and tons of attention, that's exactly what he didn't want. After all his family has been through, many of RFK's children have fought hard not only to have their own identities but also to avoid the media and publicity their name brings. It killed one brother, destroyed two others and I'm sure his sister's loss in Maryland sent yet another message.

As a wise Democratic friend of mine has long said..."What the Democrats need aren't more Kennedys...they need more people LIKE the Kennedys".

Cheers

[cthrumatrix]

36. This would certainly make him a household name

[KharmaTrain]

37. I Know What You Mean...But People Don't Want To Hear

The name is as much a millstone as an advantage. Between expectations, stereotypes and problems with other family members, I'm amazed RFK, Jr. has been so true to so many great causes over the years and truly has established his own identity. I tend to think his best days, like his uncle, are still ahead. Sadly, we haven't had the chance to experience what Kennedy wisdom is really about.

Environmental issues make people yawn. I think part of the problem is the large amount of "warnings" or bad news that have been issued over the years. While many were warranted, they were politicized (and still are) that numbed a lot of people due to the shrillness of both sides. Also we live in a NIMBY society. I sure don't want Mercury in my water, but what can I do about it? There such a sense of futility these days.

Peace...

[CTyankee]

38. I guess I forgot how RFK sounded

Yes, it is good that RFK Jr. has taken up the standard of his father. It makes me sad to remember how much we lost when he died.

[KharmaTrain]

40. I Still Hear His Voice...

People see things and wonder why...I see things and wonder, why not.

Powerful words I hear regularly.

RFK was also very shy and uncomfortable in public...especially in interviews and on television. He got better when be became a Senator, but there was still that uncomfort...even in his last speech in LA.

The good thing about a place like DU, is I see many RFK accolytes around here. The dreams still live on. So why not.

Cheers!

[cthrumatrix]

41. maybe Robert Kennedy Jr can again bring a "request for truth"

to what is going on with the CDC cover-up, Eli Lilly and Bill Frist/Gov actions.