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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:10 PM
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Bush's approval plummeting !!!
FIVE months after starting his second term with high hopes, President George W Bush is struggling to regain the confidence of Americans concerned about the direction of the Iraq war and the US economy.

With his job approval rating slumping to 42 per cent in a poll by The New York Times and CBS News, down from 51 per cent in the aftermath of the November election, Bush has begun an effort to refocus his presidency - a move welcomed by anxious Republicans.

"I think Bush is in the process of regaining his footing, and focusing on real dinner-table issues," said Republican consultant Scott Reed.

Bush began his second term in January with an ambitious plan to overhaul the Social Security retirement program but it has failed to gain traction on Capitol Hill and many Americans are sceptical.

http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,15669265%255E1702,00.html
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:12 PM
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1. Huh. Shitty president has shitty poll numbers.
I thought they called OFF that sort of unamerican polling. Sure seemed like nothing Bush screwed up made a difference,.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:13 PM
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2. Regaining his footing - LOL!
They just keep digging.....
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:15 PM
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3. Using up all that political capital
What a mandate!
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orion9941 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:16 PM
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4. A mandate?!
This president couldn't get a man-date even if he was wearing ass-less chaps in the Castro.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:20 PM
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7. Dont you know Polls can't be trusted...all we know they may have
called only sane people...Have to be a more balanced polling. :shrug:



Same thing happend after the election, seems the Kerry voters were the only ones that would come up to the pollsters...Bush supporters slipped away!:sarcasm:
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:20 PM
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9. His political capital ...
is running deficits ... just like his budget.

Cheers
Drifter
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:18 PM
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5. Nice. Too little too late, but nice.
Just remember what happened the last time Bush's numbers were in the toilet and he couldn't get any traction for his pet projects...
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:20 PM
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6. Only one other president polled this badly
at the same time in his second term - Nixon, and it was the middle of Watergate.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:20 PM
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8. I think all these polls are bullshit
All these polls are just a marketing tool on the part of the lazy and cheap US media. They have become the substitute for what is needed, investigative journalism. I really do't know why anyone participates in them. They're worthless.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:27 PM
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13. Agreed
A few more questions would help decipher who's answering the polls:

Have you heard about the Downing Street Memo?

Do you think Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11 attacks?

Would you have as much trouble as George W. Bush did when asked during the last presidential debates whether he regretted any mistakes?

A "yes" answer to either of the last two questions would put you in the special "Fox News viewer" category, and the polls would then be published with and without the idiots (that is, if a representative sample could still be obtained without them).
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:24 PM
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10. When did he have 51%? Thats bull.
I love how they try to fix numbers.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:25 PM
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21. The 51 came from the diebold numbers
after the mad computer man doctored the totals. Very Rovian!
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:25 PM
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11. It's a minor problem,
"It's a minor problem," said Republican consultant Charlie Black. "But it would help to have the job approval over 50 per cent. It helps on the Hill to give your people confidence and let the Democrats think twice before they oppose you."

lmao MINOR PROBLEM MY ASS.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:25 PM
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12. Focus on dinner table issues?
His polls are in the toilet on every issue that would be considered "dinner table". It seems that it can't get any worse then he focuses on it and lo and behold there is a deeper hole to be dug and they manage every time to do just that. When in the hell are people going to realize the problem is not the world it is Bush**. He can't do any better, he was never able to do any better than this with anything. They voted in (or selected depending on who you are referring to) a loser and he has continued to be a loser and will not ever be anything else. You can't dress him up, it does not work.

Hang on to your dinner table folks, it is about to get stolen from you.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:29 PM
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14. Yeah, like not having your son/daughter in Iraq around it with you
and wondering whether you ever will again
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:02 PM
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19. That is one of
my biggest worries with two sons, 19 and 21. IF they do this thing in Iran as well, and it looks like they have already started that, they are going to need us as well. We could go as a family. I already know one family where the son is on his second deployment and his father went with him this time. Maybe they will just get those tables when we are all no longer here?

I am so tired of all of this and of yet I personally have not had to sacrifice anything more than the regular Joe around here. I can't imagine how someone with children there are getting through this. If they see what is happening how can they stand it?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:29 PM
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15. Now, now, now...tsk, tsk, tsk
Don't you know we're supposed to average all of those polls giving weight to the margin of error in favor of Bush? That's what Tony Blakely said, so it must be true!
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indigonation Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:31 PM
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16. Just watch now - bet they get Osama real soon n/t
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:44 PM
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18. They have an excellent idea
where he is. ;)
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:23 PM
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20. Where have you been?
I haven't seen you in a while. Yeah, Goss has an excellent idea - he should strap his suit on and get over there. Actually, any ideas the neocons get are to be feared. :scared:
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:52 PM
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22. Haven't had much free time
during the day for the last few months. Post at night mostly.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:30 PM
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25. Ok, you're excused
:hide:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:33 PM
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17. Anyone have a poll number for confidence in his handling of
the Iraq occupation aka the Iraq "War"?
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:05 PM
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23. 'dinner table issues'...you fool..it is 'kitchen table issues...elite
indeed. What a wuss...I guess his family gathers in the dinning room for dinner as opposed to those of us who eat in the 'kitchen quarter'...sort of like the 'help'? :grr:
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:27 PM
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24. Just like Pops who didn't know what a scanner or UPC was
They have no clue what the commoners do.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 02:37 PM
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26. This is why I firmly believe that he was NOT duly elected in Nov.
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 02:38 PM by SoCalDem
Nothing has changed since Nov.. He's still the same screw-up he was BEFORE...

well one thing has changed a bit.. the press is not "protecting" him as much as they were before (when truth would have really mattered). It's "safe" for them to attack him now, because he's officially a lame duck as soon as the "re-election" is certified.

The polls are not as "juiced up" as they were before the re-selection...

and

there is no "opponent" to draw fire away from him..

He s with us until someone else sits in his chair, and no amount of bad press or slipping polls can change it.

Repubes would NEVER be bold enough to try to impeach him, and that;s the only way he's leaving before his term is up...or a direct hit from a meteor:)



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