RONALD W. REAGAN.......THE GREATEST AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

[theophilus]

If you cringe, as I do, when you read the subject of this post then you should go to the Discovery Channel site and vote for someone other than RWR. I voted --- and will continue to vote---for Benjamin Franklin. I feel he is the Greatest American. Now Lincoln or Washington could arguably be the greatest President. MLK was a great man and leader but others, I feel, are comparable. Medgar Evers, for one.

I think FDR should have been in the top five and not RWR. Reagan's presidency has been the subject of many "historical fairy tales". He was poison for the poor and downtrodden. He plunged our country into debt and was no real moral or intellectual force. You know the rest.

Why bother to vote, you ask? Isn't this "Greatest American" thing a sham and a silly thing? Yes. But great things are accomplished a little at a time. It is important to deny the Right Wing Nuts this small victory. Keep Reagan off the number one spot. Progressives are willing to pick their battles and let things slide. We lose little battles and hope to win the big War. The Right Wing has gotten in to power partly by going all out for ALL of the battles.


CALL TO ARMS (BALLOTS)! DU rise up and pour thousands of votes into this chintzy contest to deny RWR any acclaim. He doesn't deserve it. Deny the wing nuts the right to gloat! They don't deserve it. You know they are voting in masses! Attack! Du'ers go forth!

http://tv.channel.aol.com/greatestamerican

We MUST be victorious!

After you vote reply and show the world! I expect a thread of THOUSANDS! If we will do it for this, we will do it for what counts later on. Good practice, eh? Peace.

[helderheid]

1. I'm all for uniting behind Ben and not splitting the vote

[dogday]

2. Look who is Hosting the Show and you need look no further....

[Cooley Hurd]

8. Matt Lauer - he got really pissed when the audience of The Daily Show...

...booed GWB.

Matt, have you thought of Minoxidil? That hair thing is hard on the eyes, bud...:D

[Blue Belle]

50. Maybe he can get Hair Care tips from Dennis Miller...

When I saw who Lauer's Panel of "Judges" were (Dennis Miller, Ann Coulter, Randy Jackson from American Idol) I turned the channel. I knew it would be right wing bullshit.

[im10ashus]

3. KICK THIS DAMN THING TO THE TOP!

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[OldLeftieLawyer]

4. What a waste of energy

Who cares?

I mean, the Discovery Channel?

Why are you watching TV during the day, hmmmm?

[lenidog]

9. I don't know about him but I am off work because they are renovating

the building and we can't be there. The great thing is that I am still getting paid in full because of the union.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

14. And you're online?

A day off, and you're inside, online, watching TV?

Oy gevalt.

If you were my kid, I'd throw you outside and force you to go do something wonderful.

[lenidog]

16. Well I just came back from a hike in Richard M Nixon county park

Its the shadiest park in the county with most crooked trails imaginable.

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. LOL!

And I'm at work! ooops.

[im10ashus]

28. The irony in that is too good to pass up.

Shadiest and most crooked! LMAO!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

38. HAHAHAHAHA!

OK, for that, you can stay inside and eat junk food all day ........

:applause:

[IChing]

21. The discovery channel is now " the hot rod" channel "house fixit channel"

"Expand your horizons with powerful and insightful news, and information
documentaries from the worlds of science, nature, medicine and outdoor adventure."

That is their logo explaining their channel

tonight's programs:

American Chopper
American Hotrod
Monster Garage
Biker Build off

tomorrow: almost the same

at one time they did something decent;

but it is no longer science, nature, medicine and outdoor adventure.

[SoCalDem]

So is TLC.. The learning Channel was WHY we got cable for the first time

That and History and A&E.. They are just infomercials for Home depot and Lowes:(

[Oreo]

26. AMEN!

Makes me sick. You have to have digital or satellite to get the good shows on Discovery Science or whatever.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

39. That's right

We went premium HD and now get six hundred thousand channels of stuff I don't care about, but the educational channels - when I can hunt them down - are really terrific.

Just another way of picking the pockets of Americans who want a bit more from TV than "Britney and Kevin."

I can't even imagine how PBS is going to look a year from now.

[sleepyhead]

42. Hey, wait! American Chopper is the best!

I love that show. Not sure why - I'm a 49-year-old city girl who has never even been on a motorcycle. I guess I just watch for the "soap-opera" aspects of the show. All the father-son dynamics, arguments, etc. I do agree about the others though. Waste of time.

[theophilus]

24. Well, I watched last night and was glad that GWB wasn't in the top

five. I am a "stay at home" dad because I have been out of work for almost a year. I see where you are coming from on your "waste of time" comment, but I think we lefties suffer from that syndrome to a fatal degree. Anything to put a cut into the GOP body politic, I say. Death of a 1,000 cuts not a 1,000 point of light scenario.

We can vote with ease and make a statement. Why give the right the satisfaction of parading Reagan again for one second? I hope you will vote even though in the great cosmic scheme of things it is trivial. It might be more important than you think, though. The whole butterfly effect, etc.......

[OldLeftieLawyer]

40. I wish I agreed with you,

but when you consider what happened with Conyer's petition - nothing - you really do have to be realistic about things. It's a TV show, and it's meaningless.

Doing, instead of watching, is the act that will cause the butterfly to flutter her wings and thereby set in motion the events that will being change.

I hope.

[ewagner]

5. done n/t

[lenidog]

6. Ben has been voted for!

Don't split the vote

[Travelin Man]

7. I agree with Franklin

there are certainly many candidates for "greatest" if there is such a thing, but Reagan shouldn't be on the list at all.

[Oreo]

10. Kinda pissed Kennedy didn't make the top 5

Kennedy without a doubt saved us from the Cuban Missile Crisis and Nuclear War.

Reagan shouldn't even be on the list IMO.

KICK... Vote early and often!

[lenidog]

19. I am kinda pissed that FDR didn't make it

[seabeyond]

11. i have been voting my three mlk. i want a black as greatest

american, especially because of what our nation is doing today. regressing as they are

[maveric]

12. My vote would have gone to Jefferson.

With Franklin and FDR right behind him.
That vote was rigged ala neocon style.

[Blue Belle]

51. I agree with your list... and your assessment of the show.

It was obvious from the beginning. Hell I'm surprised Joe McCarthy isn't up there what with Ann Coulter being on the judges panel.

[Karmageddon]

13. Three more votes for Franklin.

[izzie]

15. And the wife of Pres. is usually on list of women

That it because we do not know history or much of anything but what hits us on TV. 20 years they will be asking RR who?

[i miss america]

17. The retarded cowboy was voted as the 6th greatest American of all time.

When I saw that, I couldn't change the channel fast enough.

:wtf: :puke:

[Blue_In_AK]

29. Serious myopia on the part of some, obviously...

When history looks back in 50 years, I'm sure ** will be nowhere near "best" of anything ... best asshole attempting to become dictator of the world maybe.

[newportdadde]

18. I could see Ray-gun winning this.

Look at the other choices.... MLK etc. All of the RW's will be consolidated behind Reagan while progressive votes will probably be split. amongst the other 4.

[VOX]

20. Where the hell is FDR????????????

I voted 2 MLK and 1 Lincoln.

[TomClash]

23. I voted for Lincoln

But Reagan in the top five???

FDR, Jefferson and Kennedy were all more significant.

Kennedy just for having the courage to face down LeMay and the other hawks who wanted to nuke Cuba. That is one of the most underrated, important and courageous acts in the history of the Republic.

[Blue_In_AK]

25. I gave old Ben three...

I voted for him in the first place. Raygun??? That sux.

[bunny planet]

27. Raygun the greatest American!

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[theophilus]

30. My sentiments exactly! Vote the sucker down. You know in our

culture if you aren't number one you are diddly squat. Mr. Reagan can be diddly squat as far as I'm concerned. ( I am in no way downplaying the true value of the other members on the "list". They are great Americans even if they don't come in at number one.)

[dansolo]

31. I agree about Benjamin Franklin

Franklin was, IMHO, the greatest American He embodied all of the ideals that America is supposed to stand for. As far as Presidents go, my top three would be FDR, Washington, and then Lincoln. If I had to pick a greatest American, my vote would be between Benjamin Franklin and FDR.

[Beaverhausen]

44. I visited Franklin's house and museum in Philly last month

He definitely deserves (and just got) my vote!

[Darkhawk32]

32. Freepers will only vote for Reagan and we will split our vote...

Reagan will win.

[leesa]

33. Says a lot when an actor, Iran-Contra criminal and Altzheimer's Prez is

the best we can do! Americans are stupid people.

[Deja Q]

34. My sig line - middle line is a link to a TRUTHFUL reagan site

But just in case: http://liberalslikechrist.org/reagan/

An invaluable site.

[theophilus]

36. Great link! I have bookmarked it. All Hale Hypno Toad! n/t

[stanwyck]

35. I thought Elvis was

going to take this...and I thought that was bad. But, Reagan? Yikes. What kind of country is this?
There we go again.

[minerva50]

37. Franklin is a hero to the neocons

You can tell they've hijacked the poll. We're unlikely to make a dent in the poll. I voted for FDR six times (home & office PCs) last week.

[BiggJawn]

41. Lance Armstrong isn't the greatest?

I'm just kidding.

Ok, maybe I'm not. Lance inspired me to get my obese, diabetic ass off the chair, get on a bike and start DOING something about my health besides popping pills and shopping online for electric scooters and prosthetic legs.

All Ronald Reagan did was give me this constant reminder of himself in the guise of a bum ankle that sometimes hurts for no damn reason, 20 years after I tried to kick a field goal with the TV after hearing him say "well, lemme ask you...Are you better off NOW than you were 4 years ago?"

2000 years from now, Reaganism will be a Religion, not a political movement.

[Maestro]

43. Voted!

And not for Raygun!

[Rosco T.]

45. We better pick the same person and vote three times...

otherwise we'll be split over the other 4 and the the freeps will votebomb Reagan

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. PICK ONE OF THE CANDIDATES SO WE ALL VOTE THE SAME!

Otherwise we waste this movement. We all vote for someone different, they all vote for the Raygun...they still win. Just a thought.

[stevans_41902]

47. The problem is only a small portion of dems are on DU so there

is no way everyone in the country will rally around one person. People who don't like Reagan will split their votes among the other 4 contestants and all Freepers and other idiots will vote for Reagan (there are a lot of people i know who aren't political but they think he was the greatest president ever just b/c they've been told so by conservative high school teachers and other media outlets.) My h.s. government teacher told us that Reagan was the greatest pres. ever, and unfortunately most people prob. believed him.

[in_cog_ni_to]

49. Well, we do have 70,000 members.

If those who see this thread ALL vote for the same person, the odds of Raygun losing are better. If we ALL vote for DIFFERENT 1 in 4 remaining...Raygun wins for sure.

This is the MEDIA doing this stupid vote. Raygun was a predetermined WIN anyway. IMCPO.

[doni_georgia]

48. Voted my 3 votes

[allemand]

52. The monkey continues to be confused...

He said Mama Mama
The President's a fool
Why do I have to keep reading
These technical manuals
And the joint chiefs of staff
And the brokers on Wall Street said
Don't make us laugh
You're a smart kid
Time is linear
Memory is a stranger
History is for fools
Man is a tool in the hands
Of the great God Almighty
And they gave him command
Of a nuclear submarine
And sent him back in search of
The Garden of Eden

[Rhiannon12866]

53. I voted for Martin Luther King. I'm sorry, but he was my choice.

If Jimmy Carter was there, he'd have gotten my vote, but I have to remember that I've changed my avatar! I am no longer Jimmy Carter, but John Conyers. *sigh*:-(

[bklyncowgirl]

54. Ben it is

Don't get me wrong, I love Martin and Abe but I just gotta go with my favorite founding father.

[mopaul]

55. I can't believe they put reagan above santa claus

but i agree, reagan was the greatest human being that ever lived, throughout all the visible universe.