It's a total set up...

[Javaman]

First Goss(damn this is alot of work)head of the CIA says that we know were Osama is but we can't go after him. Citing sovereign nation bullshit, like that mattered with Iraq, but not naming the nation, then msnbc.com (tool of the admin*) has a vote question regarding, "should we go after Osama regardless of where he is?"
The turn out so far is overwhelming in favor of getting him.
Then moron* pictured on the cover of msnbc.com as being under fire.
I bet anything, that Osama, according to moron* and moron goss, want us to believe that he's in Iran. So for the first time, they will admit, according to public opinion, we should go after Osama and they will attack Iran.
Two things happen here, he will come across as listening to the American people and he will show some of that bullshit resolve he's always throwing about. Just mark my words.

[Goldmund]

1. Yup --

look at the current poll on cnn.com:

If U.S. intelligence officials have an ‘excellent idea’ where Osama bin Laden is, should they go get him?

[stillcool]

2. But will it before or after another attack? n/t

[NMDemDist2]

3. ya gotta admit it's brilliant

sick and twisted but brilliant.

I sincerely with all my heart hope you are wrong, but I fear in my gut you are correct.

[Sandpiper]

4. This is what Con Men refer to as

Prepping the Mark.

[Jackpine Radical]

29. It's what therapists working with child molesters call

grooming the victim.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

61. nail, head

you know the rest.
:(

[jaxx]

5. Isn't it something how they drum up Bin Laden when they need a lift?

"They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

They don't know jack.

[tavalon]

64. Actually, they likely know quite a bit of Jack

but they won't be telling us anything but lies.

This is some sort of prepping the mark, but I have difficulty believing that they will try to place him in Iran. That's ludicrous even by middle 'Murka stupid standards.

[politicaholic]

6. Osama's in Iran?! Time to attack North Korea!!!

Because they're harboring terrorist and hate freedom.

[Peace Patriot]

81. Har, har, har, politicaholic! THAT was funny!

And when I first glanced at your handle, I thought it said, "politicatholic," and was thinking that very clever and wondering what it meant, and thinking it meant, "Time to attack North Korea!"--because that's what the Vatican would do, i.e., predatory capitalism is destroying all life on earth; time to attack birth control and gay marriage.

I've long thought the Bush Cartel was getting strategy lessons from the Pope.

Your comment on the current madness is still funny, catholic or not.

[Qanisqineq]

7. I just saw a headline today that Osama may be in Iran

Seriously. But I don't remember where I saw it and I didn't read it.

Time to invade Iran! :(

[TheDebbieDee]

12. I won't be time to invade Iran until after BinLaden's next

terror attack (faked by the * admin) has been executed in the US.

[rabbit2484]

40. Here's ones idea

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/05_Terror/050620.next.9-11.html

Wouldn't surprise me.

[hnsez]

8. Recommended! Dems need to hit the media to expose this setup

[lonestarnot]

9. Well not only Iran, but McCain yackin' about disregard for

Sirian borders as "they are disregarding their own borders...blah blah blah"

[mopaul]

10. Bada-Bing--Bang-Boom

nothing up my sleeve, the hand is quicker than the eye.

it's so easy it's ridiculous

[MsTryska]

11. I'm telling you....

Osama needs to drop a tape on them now.


preferably with an "I'm not in Iran, infidel bitches!" comment in there somewhere.



i've hated bin laden for so long, but that tape he made just prior to election night had me cracking up. I want him to be a thorn in dubya's side right up until he's out of office. And then turn himself in right after Inauguration day. Only if the new pres is a Dem tho.

[Goldmund]

14. Bin Laden won't be caught as long as Neocons are in power...

...because they have an obviously symbiotic relationship: one can't do without the other.

[Booster]

21. Eggzakly. They catch Bin Laden and the American people will

say "ok, that's enough. Pull out of Iraq and don't attack anybody else". Now, they couldn't have that happen, could they?

[Greyhound]

41. Gold Star 4 Goldmund

[Zan_of_Texas]

82. how do you know bin Laden is alive?

You don't. Those tapes are broadcast to the American sheeple but with caveats -- "we don't know if this is authentic."

Well, fellas, you're supposed to authenticate it for cryin' out loud. THEN broadcast it. (Why is it okay to broadcast tapes that could be fakes, but it's not okay for Rather to use AWOL documents that portrayed accurate info but were probably not authentic?)

OBL had a serious kidney problem way back before 9-11 -- apparently requiring regular dialysis. Maybe he got a transplant, maybe he got well, or maybe he's the same. Or, he could be dead.

But, ask yourself this question -- if OBL died of some disease process, would BushCo tell us?

Answer: NO. Because, as you say, BushCo NEEDS OBL as their villain. Bush can't be a "hero" without a villain.

[FreedomAngel82]

35. The tape before election night

wasn't BinLaden.

[bvar22]

43. Except that Osama would absolutely LOVE for bush* to attack Iran.

So far, bush* has given Osama everything he dreamed for.

*United Muslim World.

*Destabilized the Middle East

*Isolated the US from European Allies (and everyone else)

*Destroyed the US reputation WorldWide. The US is now the torturers, invaders, and occupiers (just as Bin Laden always preached).

*Demonstrated to the WORLD that our much talked about Love of Freedom and Democracy, our Constitution, Rule of Law, and Treaty Obligations (Geneva) are nothing but empty words.

*Forced the Richest Nation on Earth to become consumed by the FEAR of a handful of Men who don't even have a country.

*Forced the Largest Democratic Superpower to VOID their Constitution and impose the beginnings of a Police State.

*Seriously damaged (if not destroyed) the US economy for at least a generation, probably longer. (Osama helped destroy the Soviet Union the very same way.)

*The US Military is being consumed in an unwinnable prohibitively expensive WAR (just like Osama did to the Soviet Union).

*The Muslim terrorists , previously a small group of extremists rejected by most Muslims are NOW Heroic Freedom Fighters to most of the Middle East.

*A previously stable Middle Eastern Oil Country (Iraq) that tolerated
Religious Freedom (Christianity), educated the population ABOVE Western Standards, Provided Universal HealthCare (HIGH Western Standards), practiced Western Capitalism, and was a stronghold Separation of Church and State, is NOW in ruins, a training ground for Osama style terrorism and religious Fundamentalism.

****Mission Accomplished for OSAMA! *****

OSAMA WANTS bush* to extend the unwinnable Crusade to Iran.

The really embarrassing thing is that bush* could have easily won by NOT playing Osama's game.

[me b zola]

13. That is also the way that I summed it up

They are bringing the rhetotic back to the hunt for OBL to justify more agression & war profiteering.

[katinmn]

15. I'm afraid you're right. The Pentagon already messed with Iran's

elections and has been flying unmanned spy missions over Iran.

And now Goss got this tool writer to plant a little hint that "we know something."

Damn.

[converted_democrat]

16. You are right!!!! I was thinking the same thing as I was watching MSNBC

this afternoon. I could not agree with you position more. Look at the MSNBC question of the day. I think your right.


Great post!! Nominated!

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. Goss knows exactly where Osama is

becausing he's now the one signing his paychecks.

[tex-wyo-dem]

18. Yep, totally agree...

I think they realized that the WMD (nuclear) excuse might just stoke the fire of the DSMs, so they go with the plan B angle "OBL is now in Iran."

What better way to get support for another preemptive war than to mention his name.

It's all pure tripe.

[Richard Steele]

19. They've been planting little "Osama in Iran" stories all last week...

Of course, we all know that B*sh is on record as "not concerned with him"...

Osama is a boogeyman, and he's under whichever bed is convenient for the *-Cabal at any given moment.

Utter B*shit!

[KansDem]

20. Hmmmm...the "not concerned with him" comment presents a new angle...

Bush says he's not interested in OBL, then...WHAM...grabs him in Iran. We all say, "Oh, no, not another preemptive invasion of a sovereign nation!" and then the neo-Conmen say, "Oh, but that's where Bush is so brilliant!...He just pretended to not be interested, throwing OBL off guard till he let his guard down enough for our beloved leader to go in and get him, an action supported by 80+% of the American People!"

[Richard Steele]

23. Sadly, you might be right. n/m

[jimshoes]

22. MSNBC poll question a year from now.....

Was the US misled into the war with Iran? Yes 97% No 3%.

[Pastiche423]

24. For a dead man, he sure gets around

[tavalon]

65. Ssssshhhhhhh.............

We're not supposed to know that! Read your play book.

[converted_democrat]

25. kick

[MissWaverly]

26. we have no troops for a 3rd war

It's a known fact, so the military is saying that for another military
involvement it would have to involve nuclear weapons, did anybody clue into the weird Memorial Day speech where GWB was saying that the time was coming when no one would know who was buried there (at Arlington cemetery). Helloooooo!

[Taylor Mason Powell]

53. That's very creepy!

I went and looked at the text of the Memorial Day speech and didn't see that. Do you have a link, or some more info that might help me track it down?

[MissWaverly]

83. here's the link

QUOTE OF THE DAY
Taken from the President’s remarks at the Memorial Day Commemorations at Arlington National Cemetery today 30th May 2005. It's the next to the last line of his remarks.

"A day will come when there will be no one left who knew the men and women buried here."

But then he pastes on someone will still come and honor them but I thought it was kind of weird to say.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1413351/posts

[Taylor Mason Powell]

87. Oh, I see. Thanks.

It sounds to me like he's just saying that the people who knew the individuals buried there will eventually die off, leaving nobody alive who remembers them. Not that there will come a time when everyone buried there will be anonymous because they were vaporized by a nuculur bomb...

[MissWaverly]

88. Yes, he always puts cool whip on top of his lies

but why say it at all, what sense does it make unless he was thinking about the immediate future, he gives me the creepy creeps.

[tavalon]

66. I heard a joke recently that speaks to that

We now have an exit plan for Iraq. We're going to leave via Iran.

[MissWaverly]

84. that's a good one.

[nonconformist]

27. Damn they're good.

And yes, I fear you are correct.

[shadowlight]

28. wow n/t

[EVDebs]

30. In Crossing the Rubicon, Mike Ruppert speculates OBL is in

Sierra Leone. Now and then people say Pakistan, Iran...

What gets me is when the WashTimes put out that NSA guys were listening in on Osama's mama in Syria over OBL's satellite phone. That blew it for tracking him from that point on.

Brilliant or what ?

[yodermon]

31. OK, so, how do we trump this?

All the replies to the OP are all like "oh no, you're right, I'll bet that's what their up to".. I wanna hear "ok, how do we spread the meme that this is all a big scheme by shrubco* and get some of these predictions mainstreamed so that we can call these nazis' bluff if/when they actually try to pull this shit off?"

capisci?

[jimshoes]

39. How about the question

If it turns out OBL is hiding in Riyadh, do we invade Saudi Arabia?

[CantGetFooledAgain]

56. I emailed Newsweek and the NY Times as soon as I read...

...the Ritter article this morning. Not much, but better than nothing.

I keep waiting to find out if these people in the media are complicit, or lazy, or stupid, or what???

[tavalon]

67. You don't need to wait

I can tell you now, they are all of those things.

[micrometer_50]

32. Javaman nails it! n/t

[CantGetFooledAgain]

33. Totally agreed...

Remember the asshat that said "we're an empire now, and we create our own reality" (paraphrasing)?

This is a perfect example of how they do that. And, it's brilliant. Let the bad guy, the Emmanuel Goldstein character, slip away. Let the anger and the frustration build up. Then, use him again for your next war.

This is pure evil. But, there still aren't enough bodies to fight this war. Another 9/11 will be needed to start a draft, martial law, and locking up the dissenters.

The next 9/11 will again be blamed on the now Iran-based UBL.

I hate those fuckers.

[staticstopper]

42. could not agree more.

Thanks "Cantgetfooledagain"

Everyone here helps me stay sane!

God Bless

Check out my new avatar!!!

(i'm all for being yourself but i like that a lot of ppl are choosing the great Senator from my state - he makes me proud to be from Detroit. I think this a good trend-helps to send a message to the DINOS)

[CantGetFooledAgain]

58. I loves me some John Conyers!

The energy of that man is amazing. I wish we could clone him.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. Bingo

Remember that BinLaden is a CIA oppertative who is used by the government to scare people. They're definitley going to blame Iran. Also Saudia Arabia is in on it too I believe because Bush has said that they were now excempt from being searched for weapons.

[tk2kewl]

36. That's why DSM needs to continue to be pushed

It needs to get into peoples heads that these guys are liars.

Even as things stand today I don't think you would find a majority believing bin laden is in Iran just because bush says he is.

[rabbit2484]

37. Twice today I've heard most likely in Iran

First thing I thought was what an excuse. What a fucking set up is exactly right. No dumbass makes such a comment as Goss did today, unless it has further reasoning. I think the Iranians know it's coming too.

My brother-in-law's girlfriend just got back from visiting her family there. She grew up in the states and hadn't been over there for a while. I don't speak with my RW bro-in-law, or her really, but it just seemed weird that they planned a trip out of the blue a month or two ago to go back and visit soon.

Then again, maybe it was just a visit and I overthink everything.

[CantGetFooledAgain]

62. Goss is a top US intelligence official

He doesn't just casually drop that he has a good idea where Bin Laden is. That statement was carefully crafted and timed. It means something. It serves a purpose.

[bridgit]

38. yup...

[bvar22]

44. Osama is HOME in a SAUDI palace,

...watching the whole thing on a Plasma Big Screen and laughing his ass off.

[Beetwasher]

45. Simple, Easy Method To COUNTER THIS: Osama Is In Iran, Like WMD's In Iraq

If only the Dems had the guts to scream this from the rooftops when they do peg OBL in Iran and start the push to get him.

[stickdog]

46. Ledeen says as much in the National Review!

Puke propaganda alert!

http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen200506200854.asp

Meanwhile, the director of central intelligence gently reminded us — or so it appears — that we have profound problems to resolve with the mullahs. Time asked him how we were doing in the hunt for Osama bin Laden. He replied that the matter was rather more complicated than one might imagine. He was quite sure he knew where the master terrorist was located, and I think he told us that bin Laden is in Iran. Judge for yourself:

...we have some weak links...until we strengthen all the links, we're probably not going to be able to bring Mr. bin Laden to justice. We are making very good progress on it. But when you go to the very difficult question of dealing with sanctuaries in sovereign states, you're dealing with a problem of our sense of international obligation, fair play...

Is he not saying that bin Laden is in a sanctuary in a sovereign state? And what state could that be? If bin Laden were in Afghanistan or Pakistan, it wouldn’t seem to be such a vexing problem as Goss suggests. But Iran, now that’s a problem. Indeed the biggest problem in the war against terrorism.

[Mythsaje]

47. What do you want to bet

Osama's in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan?

Both nations ruled by dictators supported by us. Those are the only "sovereign nations" the Bush Crime Family gives a rusty rat's ass about.

[tavalon]

68. I would think his family

would have wanted him buried in Saudi Arabia when he died of his end stage renal failure. However, that might have been sticky so he's probably buried in Pakistan. Unless, of course, the US got him placed on ice when he died of his end stage renal failure so they can trot him out when they invade Iran.

[Deja Q]

48. Don't *co realize that, as with Iraq, the Iranians will fight back?

From guns to fistfights to destroying oil wells; as the US pushes forward its oil gambit, its enemies will merely tighten the noose aorund our necks.

When it comes Saudi Arabia's turn... :scared:

[LynnTheDem]

60. Ooooh noooo, not like Iraq at all. Not even close.

Iran has a very large, very equipped standing military. And airforce. And Sunburn missiles. And worse missiles. And friends. And a very much larger population.

Iraq had none of the above.

An attempt to invade & occupy Iran would make Vietnam's casualty number look like a day in the park.

[stickdog]

49. Tucker Carlson and Curt Weldon get in on the act

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8247486/

WELDON: In May of 2003, I gave the CIA very specific information that 19 Pakistanis, a part of al Qaeda funded by Iran, were going to hit a nuclear reactor in the U.S. And I said the first three letters were SCA. In July, I gave them the name of the reactor. I said it's Seabrook. On August 22, in 2003, the Rural Canadian Mounted Police in Canada arrested a 19-member Pakistani cell.

When you go through my book, you'll see all the detailed specifics of those 19 terrorists. In fact, they had no visible means of income, yet one of them had $20,000 or $40,000 in the bank. They had been involved in indication of the Pickering reactor in Canada. One of them had been training as a pilot. So, the facts are all there.

CARLSON: Well, wait a second. I mean, if those are indeed facts, Congressman, we ought to be invading Iran, say, tomorrow.

[cry baby]

50. I thought of that, too, but ...

thought I was being paranoid.

But the more I think about it, it is bush's answer to invading Iran.

[Catherine Vincent]

51. I thought this lying jackass didn't pay attention to polls?

[ecstatic]

52. Can MoveOn.org play the clip of * declaring that he isn't that concerned

about Bin Laden and his whereabouts? Seriously!

[stickdog]

54. Curt Weldon says Bin Laden's been "in and out of Iran several times"

http://www.redstate.org/story/2005/6/19/135553/983

Republican Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania and Democrat Jane Harman of California talked to Blitzer on CNN's Late Editon. Weldon said that he, unlike DCI Porter Goss, does not have an excellent idea where Osama bin Laden is. Weldon is confident that OBL has been in Iran, in-and-out several times. Harman says she's "see no evidence" that he has been in Iran at all. She said it is hard to fine him in the clans in Waziristan.

I think Harmon's a whore as well, so this should be taken as a good sign.

[spindoctor]

55. It's time to consider liberating America

We need freedom and democracy in this country. The evil dictator needs to be brought to justice.

[LynnTheDem]

57. Attack Iran...with what army?

And should bush try to invade & occupy Iran...well, that would be the very end of the US military. To say the least.

[Independent_Liberal]

59. Goss has no idea where he is!

Nope, the man is pulling everyone's chain.

[tavalon]

69. Oh come on

surely he knows where OBL is buried. It can't be that hard for them to find that out can it?

[ChiciB1]

63. Ain't It A Coincidence That When DSM Seems To Be

picking up a little steam, MSM is reporting about Goss & Osama! Something smells like ROVE!

Fuzzy Wuzzy Was A Bear... Fuzzy Wuzzy Can't Be FAIR! Liar, Liar, Pants On Fire!!

How many lies will it take, and can they keep ALL of them under wraps. You know what they say when you start to lies, in time you can't keep track of them. I'm sure they have them documented, however even Rummy screws it up sometimes. But of course, Rummy's excuse is to FUZZ it up even more with some cryptic remark!

I WANT THESE PEOPLE, and I want them bad!! They must pay for TREASON!

[cthrumatrix]

70. maybe they picked up OBL on the Iran "satellite feed"...he is 6ft tall and

carries around hospital equipment for his kidneys.... right?

You can't fool the CIA or the IAC whatever that group is.

[ChiciB1]

72. Yeah... That's More Fuzzy Wuzzy!

I JUST has to come full circle SOON!

[Swamp Rat]

71. Osama is in Crawford

[ChiciB1]

73. I Don't Doubt It!

He may be the one who keeps the money rolling in! I put NOTHING past THE CORRUPT ONES!

[DemonFighterLives]

74. Haven't we had enough of this regime's Excellent Ideas

Dick and dub's excellent adventure. :nuke:
Porter crawl back in your hole. :hide:
US out of Iraq!

:argh:

[cthrumatrix]

75. FU Cheney did say "we would be welcomed with roses"..... I guess

Dick has trouble with "intelligence".

[DemonFighterLives]

78. No lie

The Dickster
Porter must have the cia sufficiently cleaned out now to start his own excellent adventure.
:nuke:

[SammyWinstonJack]

76. And they won't 'get' Osama this time either.

He'll be the continuing excuse for invading whatever other ME Country is next on their PNAC hit parade. Apparently Osama can 'run and hide' wherever is convenient for PNAC crew.

[ComerPerro]

77. I liked Jon Stewart's take on that

"You know where Osama is? Really?

THEN WHY DON'T YOU FIND HIM???"

[cthrumatrix]

85. it keeps the war momentum going ... they need him out there

it's sad to say...

[PATRICK]

79. only one thing

They are not really going to repeat much of an effort to make a pretext or argument for a war(yawn). The Shrub shrugs and plunges ahead into seas incarnadine because such a clever scenario is really not crucial for the go ahead.

They are really acting, as they usually do before a done deal, that gymnastics and qualifiers do not matter at all. They have command and they have guns. They have a plan and they do it. The sorry show of pretext is for political PR and they seem not much concerned about that either(the inner circle that is).

Bush has yet to be slammed down, hit between the eyes. All dissent and opposition are laughable compared to the raw power he believes they have.

[Javaman]

80. self kick

[AuntPatsy]

86. I'm beginning to believe the guy is dead already and they are just

using him over and over again to ensure things go their way, they more than likely already buried him in an unmarked grave, they get more mileage from a live Bin laden then they would have if it was known he was gone from this earth.