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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:00 PM
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Bush May Ask for an Additional $42 billion---this man is a cancer
The bastards still can’t come straight with the American people. Reading in Time ‘s September 22nd issue a piece entitled “Facing Reality” by Michael Elliot. Towards the end of the article my stomach turned. It was being pointed out that the Pentagon assumes that as far as troops helping us out they “can wheedle only another division--15,000 troops” from other nations and then the article talks about the money. I quote from the article:

“As for the cash, Senator Kent Conrad, the senior Democrat on the Senate Budget Committee, says the requested $87 billion is predicated on the assumption that $42 billion of reconstruction funds will come from other nations. So far, says Conrad, ‘they’ve got $300 million from Canada. Three hundred million dollars is a long way from $42 billion’. (Wolfowitz told the Senate last week that ‘some $2 billion’ had been pledged by other nations, which isn’t much closer.) U.S. officials bravely say the donors’ conference in Madrid (my note: they are going to hold a donor’s fair in Madrid where nations can come and pledge big bucks for Iraq) will be an opportunity for other countries to shape the whole direction of the Iraqi economy. But so far, this pig has not been perfumed enough for anyone to buy it. ‘Everyone wants to be (in Madrid) as an observer,’ says a State Department official. ‘But they don’t want to feel like they’ll be left holding the bill”.

So, folks, I wonder how this is going to sit in the stomach of Americans?? In fact have been hearing follow-ups on a story Time had several months ago. They said the administration was running around like nuts trying to get France, Germany and Russia to forgive the debts owed them by Iraq, and if they didn’t forgive those debts, our bill for Iraq was going to, in essence, just absolutely financially blow us away. At last reports, those nations have not and will not forgive that debt and we have had to swallow the whole thing...........nice going you fucking piece of shit. This is why you ran everything you touched into the ground and it looks like this entire nation is the next thing you are going to destroy, you spoiled, pampered, useless piece of Texas cow shit!!!!!
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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:01 PM
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1. Yep. A presidency has grown on the cancer that is Bush. n/t
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:03 PM
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2. Guess this won't hit the airwaves any time soon.
The estimates I've read for staying there for ten years are a minimum.... minimum of One Trillion Dollars.

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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:10 PM
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3. I'm wondering if he can postpone it until after the '04 elections or not
BUT I do expect the Dem candidates to point this fact out at the top of their lungs since the Americans have started to turn against him on this 87 billion. I hope they wake up and realize this is AMMO and use it!!!!!!!!
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:55 PM
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9. Actually, I saw a Dem on C-SPAN today,
perhaps it was Conrad, I don't remember, but he was saying the total cost, depending on how long we stay there, will be over 300 bills and possibly 400. You know, 3 or 4 years from now.

Doesn't it make you sick?
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:12 PM
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4. Sounds like Jr AWOL and his minions didn't learn their lessons. . .
. . . from Unca Ronnie. Isn't he the one who (supposedly) pushed the Star Wars program and forced the ol' Soviet Union Evil Empire to bankrupt itself trying to keep up with a science fiction weapon?

Oh, my, oh, my, what fools these bushies be. Now they've gone and bankrupted us. Of course, it's what they wanted to do all along, so they could virtually own the most powerful military machine on the planet and use it to bully everyone else into doing their bidding. Hey, ho, here we go back to the days of feudal kingdoms with a few have-it-alls and lots of have-nothings-but-willing-to-beg-and-scrape-for-any-crumbs.

But, oops, wait a minute. Could it be the wheels are falling off the would-be theocratic bandwagon? Is someone standing up to the would-be divine righted king of the world? Are the irrelevant vassals of Old Europe refusing to return to the thrilling days of yestermillenium? Are the peasants on the verge of revolt?

Geez, I fucking hope so.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:13 PM
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5. I feel another slogan coming on....
"How much more, George, are you going to ask us for?"
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:24 PM
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6. Nah, I like this one better
"nice going you fucking piece of shit" :evilgrin:
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:25 PM
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7. Salin--I keep feeling that the Dem candidates haven't quite
verbalized the bottom line point. Instead of just what the bill has been so far, they need to right now pile on this obvious aversion the people had of learning about the mere 87 billion. They need to emphasize that this if JUST for the next year and that we will be there like forever. They need to let them know about the issue I posted. They really need to just swamp the people's minds with the ungodly bill they are going to receive. I think a lot of people think this 87 billion is the final cost. They've got to get better at communicating this.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 07:51 PM
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11. You are absolutely correct.
How much was the first installment... 70something billion... Lets say it was 79... Also not sure how many months from first request to recent request but... something repeated loudly and often that just raises that question.... over and over and over and over again. ala:

79 Billion.... 6 months later 87 Billion.... Next year... HOW MUCH MORE?
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 06:45 PM
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8. GAO is predicting
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 06:46 PM by teryang
...a deficit well in excess of 600 billion for FY 04. Some congressmen say it will be in excess of $750 billion.

My prediction is that as the end of the most corrupt regime in American history appears likely, they will gouge the US Treasury for every penny they can steal. Then the fiscal crisis they have created along with the ongoing military failures will be blamed on the democratic successors to office.

Apres moi, le deluge.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 07:20 PM
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10. And should the dollar actually drop another 30%, as is projected by some,
how much would that increase the cost of living/lower the standard of living for the American family?
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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:28 PM
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13. Cost of living
If the dollar drops by 30%, the cost of imports will increase by 30%. Since most all consumer products except food are imported or contain imported components, cost of living will take a giant leap upwards. 15 percent +/- 10 is probably a good ballpark figure.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 07:52 PM
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12. Maybe he is Ferdinand Marcos Bush?
The looting of the treasury and all - but it took Marcos what twenty, thirty years to loot the country? George and company is on the accelerated Marcos plan.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:02 PM
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14. "accelerated Marcos plan" -- I like that!
Good one! I'd love to see that phrase come into use in the wider public -- it says so much, so succinctly!

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