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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:28 PM Original message |
Okay, lets make this clear: Perpetual motion machines do not exist... |
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SlipperySlope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. thermodynamics 101 - N/T |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. E=MC2 |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. IOW, energy can be created, and matter can be destroyed. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Err...only at the Quantum level, that I'm aware of... |
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VTMechEngr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:26 AM Response to Reply #49 |
95. Eh, ditch the Calories. Stick with joules. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
148. Heh...trying to keep it simple... |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #49 |
142. subatomic particles seem to appear in vacuum = EM photons |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
64. Not so... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:19 AM Response to Reply #64 |
82. Ahhh...so the sum of matter and energy can't be augmented. |
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JHBowden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
71. Wrong. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:20 AM Response to Reply #71 |
83. Not when mass is converted to energy. |
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VTMechEngr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #38 |
94. Energy cannot be created or destroyed! Period |
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julianer (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 04:28 AM Response to Reply #94 |
102. If C is really a variable |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 05:35 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. "c" is a constant |
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aeolian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 08:57 AM Response to Reply #104 |
114. Tantalizing new evidence suggests that c, and the other fundamental |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 09:01 AM Response to Reply #114 |
116. This is a possibility, yes |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #114 |
157. However, The Quantum State Changes In A Reaction. . . |
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aeolian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 08:58 AM Response to Reply #102 |
115. But in this context, no, "c" is a constant. |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yeah, we know that. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. Is this.. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. i wish it was... |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. I hate being told something can't be done... |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. Not. |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Well... thats like saying everything that could ever be invented ... |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I never said anything about inventions. |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 09:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. My analogy was with "inventions". |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Sorry, bud. |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 09:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I'm done to...sorry for 'flat earth society' mentality... |
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DS9Voy (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
55. You obviously have not been educated on sub space theory |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. by all means... |
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DS9Voy (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Sure thing |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I thought you meant... |
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DS9Voy (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Nice try to devalue the accomplishment of these physicists |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Sub space... |
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DS9Voy (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:40 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. c is not a constant |
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smartvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:43 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. This is correct. It was a huge deal when they proved it can vary. nt |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. next time, try not to resort to ad hominem attacks. |
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DS9Voy (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:07 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I did not accuse you of being an idiot |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:31 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Im sorry if I dont just up and buy what these new expirements say |
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DS9Voy (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:53 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Fortunately |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:02 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I may be a lot of things... |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 05:39 AM Response to Reply #88 |
105. You may wish to check my post below |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:09 AM Response to Reply #74 |
81. This is somewhat childish |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #74 |
124. "subspace" is a mathematical term, not a physical one. |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 05:32 AM Response to Reply #67 |
103. There are some subtelties here |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 10:01 AM Response to Reply #103 |
119. Thanks for your input.... |
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T Town Jake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
85. I haven't been educated on sub space theory, but my friend... |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:05 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. could someone explain the difference between hyperspace |
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T Town Jake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 03:21 AM Response to Reply #89 |
100. Well, according to my furry friend the difference comes down to a worm... |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #89 |
111. As for string theory |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #111 |
120. Ah, that explains why |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:39 AM Response to Reply #55 |
99. Sorry, bud. |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #99 |
150. Have you seen this |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #150 |
155. You may wish to see this |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #155 |
160. It is not a gain in energy absolutely, but it does reduce the loss |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #160 |
166. So do superconductors |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. I know but what I find most amazing is that we have been |
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patricia92243 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. What about the two balls on a string that hit each other and causes them t |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Nothing is forever |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. no such thing has ever been devised... |
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bennywhale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Ok pay someone to continually restart them. About a dollar a day in |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. youll run out of dollars |
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patricia92243 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Well, shoot! Now I'm really disillusioned. :) |
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Idylle Moon Dancer (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. if you watch them long enough |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. As long as we're quoting rules... |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. sounds good |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. When I Transform Mental Energy Into A Physical Object, What Is Lost? |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Do you eat? Do you breathe? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Thanks For Your Great Reply. But How Is Meaning Not A Form Of Potential |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. "meaning" is just a complex |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. You mean "meaning" in an artistic sense? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Symbols Have Meanings On A Subconscious Level. |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. How many calories did you burn... |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. The same is true of social perpetual motion machines like constitutions |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 08:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. Capitalism is more of a perpetual motion machine |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:35 AM Response to Reply #43 |
98. Yes, "pepetual growth economics" is a better analogy |
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mr_hat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. Oh yeah? What about *almost* perpetual motion? > |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I assume by "almost perpetual" |
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mopaul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
15. kkkondi rice's lyin' mouth |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. Another thing that is true that I find amazing |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Not sure where you got that from. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. are you sure about that? |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
131. Doh. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. The really bizarre thing about water |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Yeah, there are other substances like that. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. in other words, it might be the only "naturally occuring" substance |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. That we've found to date. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. people have used 10 month old toast and a water stain on a freeway |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 05:44 AM Response to Reply #29 |
106. Gallium also |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. You're right. Can you imagine the environmental devastation |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Nonsense. |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:13 AM Response to Reply #41 |
93. i think they are thinking like this... |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #93 |
125. No, I don't think that's what they're getting at. |
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aeolian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. What? |
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aeolian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
65. not quite true |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #65 |
134. I forked up |
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VTMechEngr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
96. It actually can be compressed. |
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jokerman93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
28. Also...(FYI) |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. lol |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
42. It would be a great thing.. |
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alpha_sion (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. One word.... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Magnetism degrades over time... |
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alpha_sion (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:11 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Hmmmm... |
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alpha_sion (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. What about? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Nope, you forget a couple of things... |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. sorry, it just can't... |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Perpetual motion machines are impossible because |
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alpha_sion (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
159. I'm not sure... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #159 |
194. It's the word "perpetual" |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 07:14 AM Response to Reply #48 |
108. While I try hard .. |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. There are many many homes that run on Solar right now...and, |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 07:13 AM Response to Reply #61 |
107. Thanks for making my point... |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 08:27 AM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Actually, I countered your $100k point - it cost less... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. $100K is an overestimate... |
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SnoopDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 09:25 AM Response to Reply #113 |
117. One of my ideas and of course others thought of it before me... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Well... |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #117 |
184. Take a look at the lack of energy loss in this |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #184 |
190. Where was the Science Fair? |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #190 |
199. Don't know.... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #199 |
202. But whose word have we for that? |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #202 |
203. Does science require the credibility of the scientist or the actual |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:21 PM Original message |
We just need to stop building stick houses.. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
195. We just need to stop building stick houses.. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
53. Perhaps not perpetual motion as we know it but: Zero Point Energy ... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Someone read Heinlein's "WALDO" and added a bunch of pseudo-math |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Indeed, the website in question also mentions things like |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Not much can be said for people with closed minds. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. More than what can be said for people with gullible minds. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. I'm not following what you mean precisely. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:13 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I prefer to think of it as having a skeptical mind. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. And I think being skeptical is good. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:24 AM Response to Reply #76 |
91. your outlook touches on MWI |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
176. They seem not to like anything that's not in a textbook... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
204. While I totally agree.. |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-22-05 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
78. ergo, the universe is a perpetual motion machine. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:02 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Bingo. But don't forget entropy. It's a bitch. n/t |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:55 AM Response to Reply #79 |
87. And yet.... and yet.... |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 08:52 AM Response to Reply #87 |
112. Yeah, entranglement is funky |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
90. You haven't seen my wife in a shopping mall. (n/t) |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:27 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. oh yes I have, |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
97. Define "exist". Anyway, just because they don't doesnt seem to stop |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 03:41 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. John Titor, is that you? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
109. >100% efficiency out of any motor..." |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #109 |
122. Was that on one tank of gas? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:27 AM Response to Reply #122 |
129. 1/2 tank |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #129 |
136. Then it wouldn't be 100% |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
118. Perpetual motion machines do not exist... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
123. except for stupidity of republicans, that's perpetual. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:24 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. does/can The speed of light be a contsant according to the observer? |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
127. You mean do not exist at present |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
128. When is the Earth scheduled to stop spinning? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:57 AM Response to Reply #128 |
144. Its not, but that isn't really the point... |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #144 |
170. But, we will capture the House and Senate BEFORE then, right??? (n/t) |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
130. There is quite a severely high level of ignorance in this thread. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #130 |
135. according to the physical laws of earth as we currently understand them |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
132. "Lisa! In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" |
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anarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
133. wow...I never would have thought the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #133 |
162. seems as though all the laws of science are controversial... |
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jokerman93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
137. Someone once suggested |
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OrlandoGator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. The universe is not infinite. It has a finite mass and total energy. |
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jokerman93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #139 |
201. can you prove it? |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #137 |
141. And is why people don't see EM flows as a potential source of |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. Solar power has been seen as a potential source |
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jokerman93 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
138. Immutable Laws? |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #138 |
167. But what we call the 'universe' is most likely not "infinite" |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
140. You just won't pay attention will you... |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #140 |
143. It's just random "scientificy" words thrown together. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. Deleted message |
Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:03 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. A ten year old hasn't proven anything. |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. Read before you open your trap |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. I did read what you posted. |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Pseudoscience my ass link bellow |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #154 |
161. Yeah, I saw that the first time you posted it. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #161 |
164. Same tactics the creationist use... |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #161 |
168. Its scientifically sound actually, |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. Yes, and scientifically there's a planet called Mars. |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:16 PM Response to Reply #171 |
173. So imply I am wrong so you never have to prove a thing.... |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. You are wrong. |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. I didn't do anything I showed you what others had done and you |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. You claimed the existence of perpetual motion machines. |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. That was what you were claiming I said... |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. That is what you said. |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Your mistake -- My whole post bellow -- the last bit very interesting |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. Well there you go. |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #185 |
187. dumber than dirt to define two sources of energy as one |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #187 |
189. You're describing using solar energy... |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. NO you didn't read, |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #183 |
188. If I may explain one thing here |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:54 PM Response to Reply #151 |
156. Now you see why I made this thread... |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #156 |
163. Actually, no I still don't see why you made it. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. Well, the previous thread was supposed to be about |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #165 |
172. The previous thread was started... |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
152. Don't exist! You haven't met my three year old |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
153. Okay, Here's My Latest Try- The UNIVERSE Is A Perpetual Motion "Machine" |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #153 |
158. There are all ready four fources: |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #158 |
182. Astrophysicists Have Already Noted The Universe Is Expanding More Rapidly |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #182 |
186. No real physicist |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:53 PM Response to Reply #186 |
191. Quite A Few Already Have. And BTW, It's Nothing New. Scientists Have |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Modern science has only been around a couple hundred years. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #192 |
197. Evan Harris Walker, Edward Close, Steven Weinberg, Robert Laughlin, |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. All crackpots. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #198 |
200. You Never Studied The Meaning Behind "Masculine & Feminine" |
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Kraklen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #153 |
174. Alright. |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
179. All this scientificating is making me nervous n/t |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
196. Let's make this clear: It is impossible to hit the other cat in the mirror |
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alpha_sion (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-23-05 09:16 PM Response to Reply #196 |
205. ok....ok....ok... |
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