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screaming_meme Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:47 PM
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WHAT?!! Clark was a REPUBLICAN?!?!?!! PROVE IT!
I've been reading a lot of bush!t here that Clark was a Republican. Please tell me where you came across this information. I'm not buying it.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:51 PM
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1. Maybe you should
start coming up with reasons why it doesn't matter that he was. ;)
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screaming_meme Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:01 PM
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5. It makes a difference to me
Here's this perfect candidate, and now it turns out he votes Rethuglican? Why? Did he really believe in letting the religious right run the country? In Star Wars? In throwing the poor off welfare rolls? Against health care? Anyone who has EVER thought that way is highly suspect in my mind to run this country.

So members of Democratic Underground, why do you keep saying he used to be Republican? Where is your proof?
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:03 PM
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8. He said he voted for Nixon and Reagan
and starting turning Democratic in 1992 when he voted for Clinton.
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:10 PM
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16. Trot yourself on over to Rense.com
It's one of today's features.
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:55 PM
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2. Ya Maybe you should Prove that He Isn't a Republican
Cause you are going to have trouble!

Republican Party has been protected Way to much by the government Justice FBI and CIA

I really Believe the people don't even KNOW how eveil this Party is!

The first real look inside the Rich Famous & Powerful Parties

:bounce:
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Sailorforclark Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 08:59 PM
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3. Are you saying there arent avowed liberals in these agencies
Ive been in the intel community for 10 years and I can give you a list of avowed lefties in all of the afore mentioned depts.

SHALOM
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:02 PM
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6. They must not have trained you that well if you are ready to hand out
CIA Intel names on a message board.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:05 PM
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Sailorforclark Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:10 PM
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15. Was hyperbole
I was trying to make a point there shipmate, no need to be sassy
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:00 PM
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4. do a search I and others have provided many links
Over the last few days. I no longer have it bookmarked but yes, he voted for Reagan and Nixon and spoke at a Repuke fundraiser in 2001. We have been over this many times here.
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screaming_meme Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:03 PM
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7. The search function doesn't work
Can you provide a link, please? I really have to know.
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dobak Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:05 PM
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11. relax
He has said that he was a Republican in the early 80's and voted for Reagan (like most of America)

Who cares, he is on our side now. Not all the way on our side, but enough for me.
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Sailorforclark Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:07 PM
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13. Nuff for me too
shit man, I voted for reagan (I voted dukakis in '88, im anti death penalty) we all make mistakes.
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PDriscoll Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:51 PM
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30. Ronnie.
What prompted you to vote for Reagan?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:07 PM
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14. great graphic
had to chuckle at the wording over Lieberman, though it distracts a wee bit from the message that the image conveys.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:24 PM
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:13 PM
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17. here you go
Click here: Wesley Clark calls for US Attack on Iran
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/988037/posts

THE CYNICISM BEHIND CLARK
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/988084/posts
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screaming_meme Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:16 PM
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18. Forgive me if your source is very suspect
Freerepublic.com? Is this your go-to source for political analysis? Try again, please.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:20 PM
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21. Ya right..
we get a lot of trolls from there posing as new DU'ers who ask questions just like you. :-)
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:22 PM
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22. new member..
Username: screaming_meme

Profile name
Member since Sep 23rd 2003
Number of posts 10
Gender undeclared

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Sailorforclark Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:03 PM
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9. I personally dont care
since im in the military, im voting for a canidate who will repect the armed forces (my #1 issue all the time) and since Bush is DEFINATELY not my guy, its Clark or Kerry for me. (If I voted with my yarmaluke which I have done in the past, it would be lieberman)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:31 PM
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27. NYT's Article says he Probably would have voted for War and was Repug/Link
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 09:33 PM by KoKo01
Moving to fill in the blanks of his candidacy a day after he announced for president, General Clark also said that he had been a
Republican who had turned Democratic after listening to the early campaign appeals of a fellow Arkansan, Bill Clinton.

Indeed, after caustically comparing the actions of the Bush administration to what he described as the abuses of Richard M. Nixon,
he said that he voted for Mr. Nixon in 1972. He also said he had voted for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and 1984


http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/19/politics/campaigns/19CLAR.html?ex=1064635200&
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:05 PM
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12. Cool thing about the internet
With the internet anybody can say anything about anybody else and do so with relative anonymity (except when Attorney-General you-know-who is watching). Thus it's a perfect medium for trashing people by rumor.

Whoever is saying Clark is a Republican is an uninformed... well, there's no nice way to say it... nincompoop. Clark's a Democrat. He scares people because he's a thoughtful, competent patriot with a wonkish sort of avuncular sex appeal. He may or may not be the nominee, but for the moment I'm enjoying watching the the spectacle of the GOP attack machine kick into gear on this guy. He scares the bejeebus out of Karl Rove and I have no illusions about where the "he's really a Republican" smears are being dispatched from.

Bring 'em on.
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:44 PM
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31. nice try
Whoever is saying Clark is a Republican is an uninformed... well, there's no nice way to say it... nincompoop. Clark's a Democrat.

you're answering the wrong question. this thread is supposed to be about whether Clark WAS a repub. no one that i know of claimed he still is a repub. but it is a fact Clark WAS a repub. he admitted it. the links have been posted many times already.
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PDriscoll Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:16 PM
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19. Clark
Seems to me that he's very unproven. Admittedly, his credentials are impeccable, but is he a real dem? And is he capable of captivating the masses. Clinton had an amazing gift of making people feel important. Does Clark? At the same time, is anyone more electable? I wish that we had an option without so many "what ifs." Thoughts?
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Sailorforclark Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:17 PM
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20. Have you heard him speak
Hes got the clinton draw
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PDriscoll Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:27 PM
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25. I have not...
heard him speak. But my understanding is that he's difficult to deal with. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Clinton dismiss him as a attention hound? I just wish he had been elected as student council president. My real fear is that W will run with the "I'm a regular guy" thing and Clark will come off as an elitist. I've read some things, notable Joe Klein's article, that portrays him as wanting. That said, I cherish the moment that W debates him.

Bottom line, I hope you're right.
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Sailorforclark Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:28 PM
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26. I think the ROve machine
Will make em all elitists, be it Clark, Dean, or Kerry
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PDriscoll Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:33 PM
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28. Fair Enough.
I defer to you on the assessment of the "Rove/Rummy/Ashcroft/Cheney" machinations, but I long for a seasoned politico. That said, it's important to remember how many ducats W has and what a moneyed candidate can shove down the throats of swing voters.
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PDriscoll Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:40 PM
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29. It's my first day.
It really is. I apologize for posting multiple entries, but I'm slowing learning the system. And for what it's worth, having read Hate Mail, I'm deathly afraid of criticism that might be viewed as ban-worthy. This forum is amazing, I hope that many of those who opine are young people, and democrats for life.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 06:16 AM
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33. Hi PDriscoll!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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PDriscoll Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:24 PM
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23. Clark
Seems to me that he's very unproven. Admittedly, his credentials are impeccable, but is he a real dem? And is he capable of captivating the masses. Clinton had an amazing gift of making people feel important. Does Clark? At the same time, is anyone more electable? I wish that we had an option without so many "what ifs." Thoughts?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 10:46 PM
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32. Where some of these LIES originated
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=393418

Check this thread, which links to MWO- it exposes one of the numerous Rovian attempts to smear Clark in the eyes of the DEM base...

and BTW- Clark is not even my first choice- I'm just sick of the DEM bashing and the gullible DUers who repeat media lies...
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 06:23 AM
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34. "Dem Bashing"? "Gullible"?
- Democracy is messy and takes a lot of work and debate. That you don't like what people have to say about ANY candidate is besides the point. Democracy demands an informed electorate.

- Calling DUers 'gullible' unmasks your intent to stifle debate.
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