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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:32 PM
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Military Non-Mengeles Instructed Guards How to "Increase Stress" at Gitmo
Not saying they're Nazis, just "unethical." :sarcasm:



http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/24/politics/24gitmo.html?ei=5094&en=17f38087d71bd912&hp=&ex=1119672000&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

Interrogators Cite Doctors' Aid at Guantánamo

By NEIL A. LEWIS

WASHINGTON, June 23 - Military doctors at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, have aided interrogators in conducting and refining coercive interrogations of detainees, including providing advice on how to increase stress levels and exploit fears, according to new, detailed accounts given by former interrogators.

The accounts, in interviews with The New York Times, come as mental health professionals are debating whether psychiatrists and psychologists at the prison camp have violated professional ethics codes. The Pentagon and mental health professionals have been examining the ethical issues involved.

The former interrogators said the military doctors' role was to advise them and their fellow interrogators on ways of increasing psychological duress on detainees, sometimes by exploiting their fears, in the hopes of making them more cooperative and willing to provide information. In one example, interrogators were told that a detainee's medical files showed he had a severe phobia of the dark and suggested ways in which that could be manipulated to induce him to cooperate.

In addition, the authors of an article published by The New England Journal of Medicine this week said their interviews with doctors who helped devise and supervise the interrogation regimen at Guantánamo showed that the program was explicitly designed to increase fear and distress among detainees as a means to obtaining intelligence.
The accounts shed light on how interrogations were conducted and raise new questions about the boundaries of medical ethics in the nation's fight against terrorism.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:35 PM
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1. Remember: We are not talking about Mengeles or Nazis here.
Bryan Whitman, a senior Pentagon spokesman, declined to address the specifics in the accounts. But he suggested that the doctors advising interrogators were not covered by ethics strictures because they were not treating patients but rather were acting as behavioral scientists.

He said that while some health care personnel are responsible for "humane treatment of detainees," some medical professionals "may have other roles," like serving as behavioral scientists assessing the character of interrogation subjects.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:36 PM
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2. Yes; that's important.
What a great recommendation: At least we're not as bad as the Nazis. :sarcasm:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:45 PM
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3. The Nazis tortured. We do "behavioral science."
That is a big difference. :boring:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:34 AM
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6. Same shit, different asshole
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:18 AM
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4. kick
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 12:24 AM
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5. My post here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3934699#3935142

suggesting this, as well, even before I saw this thread. Why are we all thinking alike if Nazi comparisons aren't warranted? It just gets worse and worse.
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