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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:12 AM
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I am hating Karl Rove right now like I have never hated before
I can't explain why all the other shit that this administration has pulled has not made me hate them and this has, but that is how I feel.

I know that hatred is like poison for the soul, and it feels evil to hate him like this, but good too.

I definitely need to decompress. Any suggestions?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:15 AM
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1. I hate hatred
and I hate hating hatred...

It's a slippery slope, man.

Just remember that you love love and you love loving love....
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:51 AM
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8. in all seriousness...
I have found, only over the past couple of years (so I'm totally still working on this!), that pity is a lot more satisfying and beneficial to all than hate is.

Obviously Rove is a seriously, seriously damaged person. And I do hate the effects that his actions have had.

But also I pity him because I believe in karma, and he is in for a WORLD OF HURT eventually. (Literally, a world of it, because he has affected so many people for ill.) I believe that eventually, somehow, we each will relive all the pain that we have intentionally caused others. And Rove has caused a LOT of pain.

I won't pretend that it doesn't give me a certain amount of satisfaction to think of what Karl is in for. So I guess I have a way to go on this....

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:15 AM
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2. If you allow him to make you hate him then you give him power.
Deprive him of that power.

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:17 AM
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3. C'mon, now. He just needs a lttle therapy.
And he'll be fine before you know it.

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:18 AM
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4. Poor Karl. He just had some very bad parenting. n/t
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:19 AM
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5. Very bad.
Yes.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:26 PM
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18. Not bad enough, as far as I'm concerned.
Thrice-daily beatings with a tire iron would have been too good for him.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:07 AM
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11. I think they provide therapy at the Hague. n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:28 AM
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6. Don't watch him
serves no useful purpose.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:31 AM
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7. The Dark Side of Karl Rove (instructive read)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:53 AM
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9. I find ways to channel my negative energy
:D

Karl Fuckin' Goebbels Rove:

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:52 PM
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15. Art is driven by passion!
I love your stuff, swamp rat. Art stuff.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:06 AM
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10. Rove is no different than Count Dooku.
His job is to make everyone hate eachother, that's it. He's a mastermind of manipulation. He's also very stupid and his genius work is showing its cracks as the dam bursts wide open. Ignore Rove, and he grows more evil. Castrate Rove, and he gets what he wants.

A fine balance in between...Handle Rove the same way he handles everyone else, with reckless abandon, but without getting distracted from the real issue.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:15 AM
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12. Don't let him distract you.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 04:16 AM by sfexpat2000
Before he baited us, the DSM was getting press; people were FINALLY calling for Gitmo to be closed. The Pentagon is looking at releasing more Abu Graib material because the ACLU stayed with it.

Don't let him distract you. We're nearly at critical mass. And they will do ANYTHING to bury that.

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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 03:24 PM
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17. Bull. If we didn't respond to this after the ritual humiliation of Durbin
Then we look as weak as we ever did.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:31 PM
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13. Read this: The Republican Nemesis--FEAR them, don't hate them
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 01:35 PM by Carolab
What is it that the Republicans do that enables them to manipulate the images of Republican vs. Democrats in the minds of Swing Voters? George Lakoff says that the Republicans are especially talented at choosing words & associations that work for them. True as that may be, it becomes apparent with a little more reflection that it’s not really the words or value-associations that matter so much; it’s the emotions that are expressed when words are used. How is it, after all, that the word liberal acquired the negative connotation that it has today? The Republicans created that negative connotation by repeatedly expressing scorn and derision whenever they used the word to describe their Democratic opponents. They expressed disgust for anyone who would be foolish enough to be such a person. (Whenever politicians express strongly felt emotions, Swing Voters tend to grant them a greater measure of authenticity. After all, why else would they be so upset?) Think also of the times when Republicans laugh at Democrats. They don’t just laugh in a way that shows they have a good sense of humor; they laugh in a way that communicates their contempt for Democrats.

Democrats need to understand the importance of showing Swing Voters that they fear Republican rule. The more apparent it is to Swing Voters that a lot of Americans are truly scared of George Bush & The Republicans, the more they’re going to wonder if maybe they should also be afraid of him. (Typically, we first learn to fear things that we didn’t fear previously after seeing fear in the faces of others.) Some Democrats might think it would be better for us to emphasize our anger, but we need to be aware of the ways that this can backfire. We do not want to be characterized as “Angry People” who are always angry . Voters need to see that behind our anger is a real fear for the well-being of the American People and for America’s reputation around the world. We should never be reluctant to show our fear of Bush, but we need to make it clear in our tone that our fear is appropriate and that our anger is controlled & justified.

Think of the many times when Republicans have accused Democrats of “hating America” or of “hating George Bush.” They make this charge to invoke an image of people who are imagined to be inherently angry and who are therefore a threat to 'us normal people.' Now think of how that image changes if—when we are accused of hating—we point out that people only hate that which they fear. Whenever we are accused of hating the Republicans, we need to keep repeating to the media that no, it is fear that we feel. It’s our best defense. We want the Swing Voters to see us as people who fear the Republicans, but we also want them to see that we are also brave enough to take on the threat. Like the sergeant said to the private in the foxhole, “Everyone’s afraid, son. But we can’t let that fear stop us. We still have a mission to carry out.” We are afraid and angry. We just know that we must oppose evil when we see it. Verbalize fear. Show courage.

In the final weeks of the 2004 campaign, many Democrats complained that the Republicans were using fear tactics to win the election. It was kind of an odd criticism to be voicing, given that political campaigns have always been a contest between competing sets of fears throughout history. Even when we are motivated by hope, the key emotion that inspires us to act with a sense of urgency is our fear of losing the thing we are hoping for. Indeed, people are optimally motivated to support a political campaign when they are inspired by fear of a lost opportunity. Yes, fear is the one emotion that is strong enough to motivate people to go out and vote who have never voted before. (If your big thing is getting out the vote, keep this in mind.) The ultimate truth of political competition is that Swing Voters always choose a particular candidate or party because they fear the consequences of having the other candidate/party in office, the one they didn’t vote for.

The problem with fear is not that politicians use it to inspire voters; the problem is that some politicians create fears that are irrational or unjustified or exaggerated. When such fears are used to intentionally mislead citizens into voting against their own best interests, then the use of fear is unethical. In contrast, if the fear that politicians inspire is legitimate—and their intention is to alert voters to a danger that they can protect themselves from—then the use of fear is virtuous. What Democrats need to understand clearly is that Swing Voters can be persuaded to fear either party. Right now, too many of them fear The Democrats more than they fear The Republicans. They will return to their identification with the Democratic Party only after they have been persuaded that it is The Republicans whom they ought to fear, not the Democrats. It is the Republicans who are not like them, who are simply looking for yet another opportunity to play them for fools.


http://taxwisdom.org/republican_nemesis.htm

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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:10 PM
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16. Good post!! nt
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:46 PM
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14. What took you so long? (n/t)
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