Women in the Military

[proud2BlibKansan]

If certain federal lawmakers have their way, your eighteen-year-old daughters will be registered for selective service and drafted for combat by the next war. Many women's rights advocates claim that Christians have long since abandoned the issue of women in the military. Sadly, far too many pastors and politicians were embarrassingly silent on this issue in the days leading up to the war against Iraq. In this special forum of key theologians and Christian thinkers, we throw down the gauntlet of God's Holy Word, to proclaim that it is biblically impermissible and a profound judgment upon our nation for men to abdicate their role as protectors and warriors by permitting and perpetuating the practice of women in the military.

http://www.visionforumministries.org/sections/hotcon/ht/womeninmilitary/

[Captain Hilts]

1. Over half the folks in medical school are women.

And most of the language specialists are women.

You can't rule them out of any draft.

[Name removed]

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[Imagevision]

5. Fu*k the Draft? - Canada already signed a pack agreement with Bushco

not allowing US. citizens to take refuge in Canada almost 2 years ago.

[funflower]

8. But of course they're not planning a military draft....

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[funflower]

3. Oh, gee. It's "biblically impermissible." We can't have that!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Imagevision]

4. Rumor has it it that February 2006 is the big "D" day annoncement

because the fighting in Iraq is being done by 2 & 3 termer national guardsmen - over 1700 guaedsman are over the age of 50 fighting in Iraq.
Draft? Don't be surprised when it happens...it's inevitable at the rate Bush is handling this phoney war!

[funflower]

10. I'm thinking it will be something like Nov. 8, 2006

(presuming all of the elections are settled by then).

[funflower]

6. That website is a real riot! If you want to see the US Tailiban,

check out this one....

(snip)

Why I am Against Bikini Clad Girls
and Bare Chested Boys
Swimming in My Lake

(snip)

http://www.visionforumministries.org/sections/hotcon/ht/family/nobikinis.asp

or this one....

(snip)

Why do we have such a hard time accepting the timeless truth that we as women can indeed find fulfillment in being keepers-at-home? In I Peter 3, Paul decidedly states, “Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands... for after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands” (I Peter 3:1, 5). In my understanding, this leaves no room for a wife to be in subjection or submission to a man other than her husband, such as a boss at work. Jesus Himself taught “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other” (Matthew 6:24). I understand that the context here is money, but Christ’s teaching certainly fits with the rest of the Scriptural passages studied so far. Therefore, serving another master or submitting to some man other than your own husband is striving to serve two masters. Christ has said that this is impossible. “For either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.” “Hate” and “despise” are very strong words, are they not? A woman working outside the home under another “master” is in danger of growing in her heart discontentment, hate, and a feeling of despising who God has created her to be and those whom He has called her to serve.

Yes, young wives and mothers are the specified recipients of this training, but unmarried women can also benefit from the same training and application of these Scriptural truths. This powerfully enables them to be prepared for whatever God has for them, both now and in the future. A young woman who practices “serving two masters”–her father and employer–while she is single will have perfected this for her married life. This development of an independent spirit could result in a miserable marriage for herself, her husband, and her family. As with any art, the best way to master the art of contented submission is to practice it! Who could be a better recipient of this practice than a young lady’s father? Ideally, a daughter’s relationship with her father will be a vivid picture of what her future relationship will be with her husband.

(snip)

http://www.visionforumministries.org/sections/hotcon/ht/family/calledtohome.asp

:puke:

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. Yes

very interesting website. :)

[funflower]

11. Here's another gem! There are a million of 'em.

This one's about the issue of women's suitability for combat.
It's from the "Christian Boys' & Men's Titanic Society (Women & Children First)" portion of the site.

Just in case you were wondering whether there is an actual logic involved in these folks' thinking....

(snip)

If the Christian's answer is based upon anything (statistics, studies, stories from history) other than the infallible Word of God, that answer will not withstand the relentless pressure of the opposition

(snip)
http://www.titanicsociety.com/readables/main/articles_03-15-2004_combat.asp

[Nobody]

12. You can't serve two masters?

Does that mean I can only have one cat?

[funflower]

16. And I'd better send two of my kids away. They rule the roost around here!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[lolly]

14. Well, the solution is obvious

Make all the bosses women, so the working gals DON'T have to "submit" to another man!!!

[Freedomfried]

7. How to end this bullshit war real quick

Show some of the pictures of pretty young females coming home from Iraq horribly mangled and missing limbs.

AND RUN EM ON THE FRONT PAGE!

[cynatnite]

13. My favorite quotes:

One cannot understand the emasculation of the modern man and the consequent demise of the family in America, without seeing the profound spiritual implications for the men of a nation when they cease to be the protectors of women.

Servanthood, in our leadership, doesn't mean that men don't do the leading. It does mean that men do the bleeding. In fact, that is why we are given the leadership in the first place.

To have women serving as soldiers on the battlefield is an abomination in the eyes of God and ought to be an offense to righteous men and women.

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Going to go cool off for a while and wash off the stench. I'm a female vet and I'm :grr:

[funflower]

18. WHERE do they get this stuff?

It sure as heck has nothing to do with Jesus.

[bemildred]

15. So, like, why haven't all these guys signed up yet?

They need a lot of bodies in Iraq. These "leaders" sound perfect.

[cynatnite]

17. I'm still pissed so I sent them this message:

As a veteran and a woman I have a few comments concerning the opinions dealing with women serving in Iraq.

I'm sure the military would welcome any number of you who are so horrified by this 'abomination'. Perhaps some of our troops might be able to come home.

The things I read were a disservice and an insult not only to me as a vet who served this country I love and to every other vet who has put on a uniform. Women have been in combat in this country since its birth. While they may not have been in uniform, they have fought, bled and died just as much as men have.

I challenge you to go to Iraq or even to any military base in this country and tell the women who serve the United States what their service means to you.

I highly doubt you will.