If he pulls an invasion on Iran, that will be his Cambodia.

[KlatooBNikto]

The Cambodian 'incursion',for those who remember, did Nixon in.He overplayed his hand and started talking about he could not let "America become a pitiful, helpless giant" That was the beginning of the end. Any attempt to enlarge his war into Iran will have the same effect.Even the docile people who gave him the benefit of the doubt will see him clearly as a madman.

[Spinzonner]

1. I suspect that such an attempt would be leaked to the COngress - at least

by the military in an attempt to head it off politically before it could be done. And the military would find some way to stall the planning or preparation to allow opposition to gel.

That does not preculde some 'clandestine' activity by the CIA, however.

[radfringe]

13. already going on - not Iran but Syria

troops are "skirmishing" along Syrian borders supposedly to stop more "insurgents" from entering Iraq (probably going on to a lesser extent along Iranian border)

US, Iraq continue offensive near Syrian border
Minneapolis Star Tribune (subscription), MN - Jun 18, 2005
... On Thursday, a US general called Syria's border the "worst problem" in terms of ... Three US troops have been wounded and about 100 insurgents have been captured ...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=troops+syria+border&btnG=Search+News

[H2O Man]

2. Cambodia

was not able to respond in the same manner Iran can. I think the violence near the Syrian boarder may be closer to the Cambodian example. I hope we do not find out the consequences of pushing Iran into a conflict.

[Totally Committed]

4. While what you say is true,

Cambodia was the downfall of an administration. I think War with Iran would be as well. In that way, Iran as this administrations' Cambodia is a good and valid anaolgy, imo.

TC

[H2O Man]

6. The analogy may be good,

but I think it is inaccurate to say that "Cambodia was the downfall of an administration."

[Oversea Visitor]

3. American is piss right now

But the World is seriously piss.
He try Iran ... US going to be worst that a pariah nation that it is now.

[kohodog]

5. Personally, I think that would be his Armageddon.

He's the type to want to go out in a blaze of glory and take everyone with him.

[H2O Man]

7. Yikes!

Scarey thought!

[kohodog]

8. Top of the Day H20 Man!

Going to be a scorcher. (Not related to previous post, I hope!)

[H2O Man]

9. Good morning.

Unreal weather. Our pool is scheduled for construction this week. It's none too soon.

I think that it is easy to underestimate Iran's potential for response to US/Israeli aggression. I think that as Bush and his fiends become more unpopular in the USA, they will feel pressured to increase the international crisis situation in the Iraq/Iran area. I am hoping that cooler heads will prevail.

[kohodog]

10. I agree, and I think even this group has to see how dangerous it would be.

If they bomb Iran, Our troops in Iraq will be isolated. Even the moderate States will need to pick sides and we will lose many of our staging grounds. It is both morally and tactically wrong and incredibly dangerous. What worries me is the bombings that have been increasing in Iran. It seems they may be related to CIA backed groups. And the new predident may take a more confrontational stance with the West, but time will tell.

[H2O Man]

17. Yep.

There have been a number of bombings inside Iran that appear to be the result of groups opposed to the government stepping up their activities.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

11. How could he possibly do this without pulling almost all troops out of

Iraq? They have not succeeded in suppressing the resistance there. Iran is a bigger country with more people.

The only way something like this could be remotely possible is by using nuclear weapons. I don't know that even this crew would contemplate that, especially with their political standing so low.

[KlatooBNikto]

12. He is going to use the Afghanistan strategy, I think.Having created

chaos in Iraq and total ruin, he is going to move into Iran, leaving behind his handpicked puppets in charge.That means full fledged civil war, which suits him fine and very likely was his plan all along.Look at Afghanistan where it is total chaos and ruin.There is very little American presence there.The same thing is going to happen to Iraq.

[H2O Man]

14. When you say "move into Iran,"

do you think he would actually move troops in? My impression has been that the US might attempt to us air strikes against select targets within Iran. The difficulty with even that ("even that"? Unreal that that could indicate a "lesser" intervention!) would be extremely difficult. Iran has air defense systems. Further, as in Cuba decades ago, the more targets -- and the more dispersed they are -- the greater the chances of errors.

I think that air strikes are less likely now than they were a year ago. The administration may be more inclined to support an internal uprising.

[KlatooBNikto]

15. Their hubris is so great they are likely to do anything IMO. I even

think Israel may be asked to initiate air strikes and the US troops will follow in their wake.

[H2O Man]

16. Good point.

I think the "neocon spy scandal" lends evidence to the idea that Israel may lead with the initial air strikes. It is a scenario that is the most likely; it also would lead to a level of violence throughout the Middle East that would be difficult to de-escalate.

It is, of course, consistent with the plan for an expansive "Greater Isreal."