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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:13 AM
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A stinging rebuke to W on "Face the Nation"
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 10:18 AM by brooklynite
Bob Schieffer just let Bush have it in his closing remarks:


"And finally today, when the President went to a school in Montgomery County, not far from the White House last week to push his plan for Social Security reform, the Washington Post called it a "Town Hall" style meeting. Choir Practice style would have been more accurate; once again the President was preaching to the choir - an invitation only crowd. Those who disagreed were made to stand outside; the White House could not say whether the audience included any actual Montgomery County residents.

Like most of the President's proposals, Social Security reform is in deep trouble. The Administration blames the Democrats, and that's part of it. But I think it has more to do with spending so much time preaching to the choir. This White House prides itself on being resolute, in standing apart from the rest of Washington, expecially those who disagree with them. But, the votes were never there to pass the president's Social Security reform package, and everybody knew it but the White House. The Administration has badly misread the public mood on the Schiavo case and stem-cell research, and has backed itself into a time-wasting corner on who should be UN ambassador.

I like politicians who stand by their principles and refuse to bend to every tick in every poll. But it is hard to get much done when you spend all your time with the Choir, and lose touch with the rest of the congregation"

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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:14 AM
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1. Could not say whether the audience included any actual Montgomery County
residents.
Best line.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:24 AM
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11. Montgomery County is extremely blue, I live there
They would have had to search for a long time to find enough people to fill an auditorium. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the crowd was "imported".
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 08:37 PM
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40. I grew up there, Blair was my H.S. in 10th grade. They might fill an
auditorium from Montgomery County, but they'd actually have to work hard to find the people. These folks don't work hard. Wouldn't surprise me at all if there wasn't a single Montgomery Co. resident there and the whole set of actors was bussed in from elsewhere.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:16 AM
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2. AMEN brother Bob and a hellejuah chaser!
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:16 AM
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3. Why does Bob Schieffer hate America?
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Freedomfried Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:04 PM
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35. Good one!
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:16 AM
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4. there really ought to be a law against the way BushCo holds meetings
it's on our dime, but only neocon drones may attend. :grr:

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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:18 AM
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5. Hardly stinging
Pretty mealy mouthed if you ask me.

Of course, in the current atmosphere, even suggesting Bush is less than a great leader is remarkable enough.

(the only president we have)

(gotta support a wartime president)

(fill in the blank)

Perhaps if Bob S had said something along the lines of "this bastard lied to an ignorant public and involved this country in a war that will end up costing thousands of American lives, perhaps a trillion American tax dollars, an untold number of Iraqi lives and end up in the establishment of a Shiara-type fundamentalist government that will be worse for its people than the asshole we threw out. Just substitute stonings and beheadings for "rape rooms" and you'll get the picture."

Now THAT would have been a stinging comment.
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:36 AM
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15. I understand, but this is relative progress
Could you imagine Bob S having the "balls" to say this 1 year ago?
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:19 AM
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6. Everyone grows weary of this administration
Their cronyism, deceit, malfeasance, and imperious sanctimony. The tide has indeed turned, perhaps the loss of viewership and blue-cott are beginning to tell?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:20 AM
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7. What would be really neat
and will be quite telling is when one of the members of these hand-picked groups stands up and tells W he's full of it. As things get worse in this country, I could see that happening.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:23 AM
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9. From your mouth to God's ears,
dear Ayes. I couldn't think of anything that would make me happier right now. Of course they'd get branded some sort of liberal plant, though most likely.

FSC
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:22 AM
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8. And MORE PROOF the
washington post is just a mouth-piece rag for the chimphouse.

I'm shocked by this..Bob Schieffer?

It's all true, but, but, but?

The bushits don't try to read the public..they play to their fundie hysterical base..and that's it..the rest of the country can go eat shit as far as they're concerned.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:27 AM
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12. DRIP, DRIP, DRIP from many different places
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:44 AM
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16. And I'm
LOVING IT!

This is HUGE for Schieffer..his brother is Tom Schieffer who was president of the Texas RAngers under bush's ownership. Tom is now the US Ambassordor to Japan.


http://revolutionagainandagain.blogspot.com/2005/06/is-bob-shieffer-in-touch-with-reality.html
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:06 PM
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27. and Schieffer was the lame-assed moderator of one of the so-called
"debates".
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:23 AM
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10. When in the middle
of a chrystal clear, pure lake, one cannot see nor be concerned about any who might be thirsty!
Bush will never understand that beyond his circle is a mass of people thirsty for truth and honesty!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:28 AM
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13. folks are embarrassed admit how foolish they feel now
but they are breaking through that barrier and facing facts and admitting it. we were all basically fooled, all but those in the government, on both sides.

hoo ray for bob
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:53 AM
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24. That's it exactly. They're "embarrassed" now but soon it will be "rage"
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 11:54 AM by autorank
They will deflect their embarrassment or draw logical conclusions from it and become rageful about:

--Iraq (in every aspect)
--Stem cell research (people now realize that they've lost relatives due to this insanity)
--Corruption
--Corruption
--Corruption

And the caper of the publics rage will be the 2004 stolen election. DNC chickened out (I'm shocked, just shocked) and didn't call it what it was but the stolen election is the author of all of our ills.

Strap on your seat belt. When a card carrying member of CM (corporate media) speaks out like this, that means "management" has let loose the dogs.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:24 PM
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37. seat belt fastened!
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 08:28 PM
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38. We'll be rokken soon! Fun for all! Payback time. Truth will be told!
:hi:
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:28 AM
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14. A stinging rebuke, considering it comes from Bush family friend
and mediawhore Bob Schieffer. Imagine what a real reporter would have said!

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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:54 AM
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17. Shrub doesn't need the people.
He actually thinks he will ram his agenda through his Congress and change the face of America to his delusional ideal. He doesn't really care if the people go along or not. And that's dangerous thinking.



www.patriotboy.blogspot.com
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:02 AM
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18. This gives millions of sheeples permission to turn on the Boy King
One good statement like this, that doesn't directly insult the chimp's intelligence, does more good than a year of stump speeches. This is huge. This is mutiny. He's lost control. Hundreds of reporters will use this to convince their editors that the honeymoon is over.

The emporer's new clothes are getting hung out to dry.

Amen. I'm getting my country back.

When the chimp drops into the 30's, I change my avatar to John Conyers.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:03 AM
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19. Love Bob for this!
Go Bob go!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:04 AM
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20. that's excellent. It is good seeing the media showing some
spine. Let him know you approve.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:05 AM
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21. Preacher dubya has squandered so much
The good will of the world and our complete treasury and many lives of our soldiers.
I don't see how the choir can stand there in silence if they have any intelligence at all.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:07 AM
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22. "Choir Practice"
:rofl:

Now I finally know what to call these things!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:51 AM
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23. Alot more insidious than "preaching to the choir".
If bush* was merely "preaching to the choir', I would laugh. "Preaching to the Choir" (which is what we do here) is self defeating because it gives one an unjustified sense of self- righteous accomplishment.

No, the bush* exclusive "Town Hall Meetings" is an effective tool the propagandists use to control the clips that are shown to MILLIONS on the evening news. Bob Schieffer knows this because Bob Schieffer gleeefully participates in this crime 5 night a week on HIS CBS Evening News where he publicly fellates george bush*, the Conservative Doctrine of Rule by the RICH, and the glorious and patriotic War on Terror in Iraq.

Face the Nation is watched by a handful of political junkies. The CBS Evening CorpoNews propaganda broadcast is watched by millions! I scream at Bob Schieffer's conservative bias and refusal to cover the REAL news 5 nights per week.
BUT, I guess we should be grateful for any straw they throw to us.

It would be a mistake to consider Bob Scheiffer as a liberal, a friend of liberals, or anything but a professional republican mouthpiece approved by the bush* WhiteHouse.

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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:00 PM
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25. I wouldn't call that a rebuke. He doesn't mention
the fact that Bush's SS's is a big scam- Sceiffer's all for it. He's just annoyed that the Bush team is too incompetent to sell it.

And Bush has been doing these invitation-only "townhall meetings" literally for years. Bob never had a problem with it when they were working.

I can't stand Bob Schieffer. That type of guy is more damaging that Limbaugh in the long run. He's a right-wing think tank guy, but the corporate media puts him on as an "impartial expert".

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:10 PM
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28. He can't put everything into one short opinon piece (nt)
nt
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:22 PM
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30. It's not a matter of 'putting everything in',
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 12:22 PM by Stirk
it's a matter of Schieffer's angle. What I'm saying is that Schieffer never criticizes Bush's policies. He agrees with them. He criticizes Bush's salesmanship.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 03:39 PM
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32. Good point (nt)
nt
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:49 PM
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31. You nailed it--look at the kind of half-hearted hooey we get and
are supposed to be happy with. Stating the obvious is seen as something to celebrate now.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 08:34 PM
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39. It's network TV...
not cable, not AAR, not in online zines or forums like DU...
That means it's one step closer to every little backwater uninterested faux viewer. This is valuable in a world where so many STILL believe that Saddam had something to do wtih 9/11.

That is why I was glad to see it!
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:03 PM
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26. Bob Schieffer said this?
Wow. I thought he was one of W's Homies??
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:12 PM
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29. Isn't Schieffer a Bush golfing buddy, too?
Or, maybe it's with Poppy Bush?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:10 PM
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33. Wadya xpect frum tha LIBEBRUUL medea?
:sarcasm:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:36 PM
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34. Shrub a salesperson?
LOL.

This Silverspoon Sociopath only sells his shit to those that would buy it from anybody selling. He is the worst salesperson of the freakin' planet.

RW spin meisters are only whining about that. The RW Corp. Media Masters should be on trial for War Crimes along with the Bush Regime.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 06:08 PM
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36. Cool! I'll watch it tonight. My local station shows FTN late at night.
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:45 AM
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41. Blaming the democrats for not getting your way?
Boy oh boy, George just complains and pouts. He can't get his way.
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