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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:32 PM
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Third World White
About Me
Name:Kate-A
Mother of five (three in military uniform). Grandmother of six. Central America - Been there, done that. When I was 17 it was a very good year for small town girls....



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The US is no different than any other regime. Murder. That's what wars do. It kills people. It rapes. War stacks the enemy (dead or alive) in a pyramid. War cuts bodies in half with weapons. It digs mass graves. It's brutality. It's torture. It beats people to death in prisons. Then the government sanitizes the evidence and lets the IRC or UN inspect and issue a report that goes something like this..….."found the US government guilty of engaging in a practice and policy of violations to include racial and religious humiliation but no convincing substantiation or credible evidence of systematic and gross human rights violations"….And America high-fives itself saying see, we're just calling them names and peeing on their bible, we're not the bad guys here. Know too that the Army will have 32 such internment/resettlement units added to the Army’s rolls between now and 2008. So many detainees, so little time. Remember this is a "generational war."

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Those who consider themselves progressives will pay dearly and for a long time for their acquiescence these last many years. The type of government in power today is not going to go away by exposing their deceit and corruption. They've been exposed. They may take the money and run but doubtful, like serial killers they never stop and are thrilled by the power. They will not be deterred by petitions or moore movies or columnists or polls. They will not be keyboarded out of office regardless how many bloggers type it, wish it, print it and pass it along. The Democratic party is not going to take back the nation by a Cavalry charge on Capitol Hill, they can't even circle their wagons, and their hands are as bloody.

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Third World White

Faith in the American dream is basically for White folks, with the majority of those folks without good sense. Too many white folks don't grasp the turning point of what's happening in America today. Jerry Springer souls who see themselves as June and Ward leaving a legacy to the little Cleavers. And decent white folks who unfortunately still see the land of opportunity with the eyes of the 1950s. Poverty, joblessness, low wages, illiteracy, destruction of the family unit, has always been a struggle fought by minorities and now it's come home to Johnny White but he denies it.

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Most of white America also doesn't recognize that the same oppression that kept brown folks down is now targeting average Johnny White America. I'm not sure I'd even call it "oppression" as it is simply the law of supply. When there's too many to share the pie with, the greedy pie-keepers push those who are different away from the table. As the feeders grow in number it has to eventually exclude more white pie-eaters. Because upper class White Haves have less use for Johnny White they have to squeeze more white members down and out, rapidly. Once called white privilege, the privileges are being reduced for most of white America. Not taken away by minorities, goodness no, nonwhites haven't that kind of power. But taken away by their own. The old phrase "it's a man's world" is more appropriately a "white man's world", but today that won't take the average Johnny White man as far as it used to. No longer does the white ruling class care if Johnny White has employment, housing, education, opportunity, good health, it now doesn't even offer a definitive target to blame his fall on. As far as his "betters" are concerned, Johnny White can keep falling to the bottom. Serve or entertain is Johnny's options these days, just like brown folks have for a long time.

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White "privilege" is already installing little measures that will weed out ne'er do well Johnny White. Special "clear" cards for airline flyers. Banking, DMVs, and housing rentals are enforcing stricter ID guidelines all in the name of securing the homeland but sorting the chaff at the same time. Identifying economic status. The upper classes will find no hassle in paying extra fees, providing documentation, having underlings to take care of hasslework, to secure special treatment ID. At the same time it ensures even white folks who don't travel much are treated like the least of us. It ensures poor white folks don't lie to get that license, cable TV, telephone, HUD rental, cash a check, fix that DUI, or get a gun permit. Fortified America, with a lot of white folks joining the ranks of the brown folks who cannot afford to buy special treatment ID. Welcome to the back of the bus. According to Homeland Security many of the coming changes will allow the concentration on those groups which are more likely to perpetrate fraud, lying, etc. Not professional criminals, but the desperate and poor who lie and cheat like criminals, as the professional criminals are in charge anyway.


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http://kateablog.blogspot.com/


OUCH!

No minced words there. & What a blog! I think I'm in love...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:35 PM
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1. Wow!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:51 PM
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3. My reaction too. Did you read the whole thing?
I'm still immersed and "wowed".

I come from a long line of men and women in uniform, beginning with ancestors dying in Andersonville prison, great grandfathers, grandfathers, father, sister, uncles, aunts, cousins, spouse, and sons, in every war from the Civil War to the current Iraq War, from the Baatan Death march, German POW camps, Korea, Vietnam and both Iraq Wars, for the last 145 years. I've 145 years of letters and stories which will tell you there are no rules in war and no humanity other than what survives in an individual's soul. Why do folks believe war can be reasonable? The Fourth Geneva Convention? The First was written in 1864, the Second in 1882, the Third in 1929, and the Fourth in 1949. The Conventioners keep writing rules and wars keep getting fuckuglier.

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:02 PM
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5. It's a B I N G O of a gem!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:40 PM
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2. That's a keeper
Thanks!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:52 PM
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4. My pleasure :) Every once in a while, a gem appears! n/t
:hi:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:03 PM
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6. wow she`s a really good writer!
you found a real gem..i`m bookmarking her site.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:04 PM
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7. Bam!
Excellent as always, Cass! :loveya:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:06 PM
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8. this has to go on the front page
i`ve already added my vote
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:11 PM
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9. welcome to the third world...
faux and friends (M$MWs) do their best to maintain the facade but more and more know what time it is, DESPITE their BEST efforts.

thank GORE he 'invented' the INTERNETs where TRUTH be told.

thanks for sharing as always :toast:

peace
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:26 PM
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11. Thanks to all of you for reading it & appreciating it! n/t
:hug:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:16 PM
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10. i was tellling my poor white brother that tonite
it is a different world we live in. no longer will he be able to get away with anything, and being poor, he is being set up for failure everywhere. the best we can do, make sure we dont do a damn thing wrong. no getting sick. shoice between food and that registeration ticket for car, get the registration. i can still pay my way out. he cant

he voted for bush

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:38 PM
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13. Very sad. A good many White people are going to be hurting
when they realize what it means to sit in the back of the bus.

the best we can do, make sure we dont do a damn thing wrong

This strangely something I was thinking about last night when I couldn't sleep... Thinking with fear that from now on, I can't do anything wrong because there are no safety nets left and, especially if you're alone in the world, that is one scary-assed thought!

Going back to that blog because it's relevant to what you just said


I divide the American public into percentages. Somewhere between 40-60 percent will support an incumbent administration regardless of the incompetence of its actions or policies. This group has surface knowledge and minimal understanding of the effects of political fallout. Their data is usually very one-sided, but they think they're well-informed and smarter than average. They fluctuate between 40-60 because a subgroup of approximately 20 percent know nothing but will follow the other 40 percent who impress them as knowing it all. They will flip-flop and mimic whatever they see on Fox or CNN, whatever their lover believes, whatever the landlord, pastor, coworker, or anyone in their circle who sounds smarter with a bigger vocabulary. They're not picky, just fickle.



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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:27 PM
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12. Does it make me an idealist (certainly not a realist) to hope that
this entire Republican Administration falls on it's ass? I have visions of these folks landing in Jail. I just can't see this kind of nonsense going on forever. Although, darn it, I have to ADMIT that after talking with some of these "red neck know it all" white so called Christians living in this neck of the woods.......I get real depressed.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:44 PM
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14. I hope they fall on their ass too but I'm afraid of that day
because they'll take the country with them.

One of the reasons, imo, that even decent Democrats are acting like an opposition party on Valium is because they know this. They know the problem isn't just Bush, that it's a delicately balanced house of cards that was years in the making and that depending on how Bush goes, it all goes.

I'm hoping right along with you but not really looking forward to the hard, necessary task of rebuilding. Every morning I turn on that damn TV hoping to hear that something, anything happened.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:52 PM
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16. Yep.....me too......my bones tell me it's near......but ....day after day
after day passes......same ole , same ole.....on teevee
Bama
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:58 PM
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17. One begins to feel for the Jehovah's Witnesses lol n/t
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:48 PM
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22. See, I actually am looking forward to that
the rebuilding period...such an opportunity and who knows, it might actually work out alright? keep the faith :headbang:
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:14 AM
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25. I used to and then the election zapped everything out of me
I never thought I'd be this tired. Hopefully it's just a phase... :loveya:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:36 AM
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26. I'm sure it is sweetie
I was wiped out before, but the energy and fighting spirit is back! Just picked up "Chomsky on Anarchism"...it rocks!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:46 AM
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27. I'll pick that up!
Next on my list right now is Chalmers Johnson. I read a few excerpts and it knocked my socks off! Thanks for that recommendation :)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:25 AM
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28. The Sorrows of Empire or Blowback?
I have Sorrows of Empire, but I haven't read Blowback yet...My anthro teacher loves him...
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:03 AM
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31. Sorrows of Empire

Sorrows of Empire is the one I read about. Now, rats, you've added a third!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 10:47 PM
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15. What I've said all along
It's a Class War, and the other divisions were convenient bullshit distractions.

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:00 PM
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18. Yes...
My mother always used to say that both parties represend thieves but that the Democrats leave you bigger crumbs. Those crumbs are increasingly making a difference to a great many people right now!
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:01 PM
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19. the only true war is the class war...
that's my motto...words to fight and live by.

and I agree with you 100% about the bullshit distractions bit...count yourself blessed, so so many people live their entire lives without figuring that one out.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:24 PM
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20. good stuff n/t
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ChipperbackDemocrat Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 11:26 PM
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21. This article says something I've believed my whole life
We of the Proletariat cannot afford division in a era where the only color that really matters is green.

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:27 AM
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23. Wow! I LOVED IT! Thanks! eom
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 06:25 AM
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24. WOW!
:wow::wow::wow: Thanks, Tinoire! :hi:
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:33 AM
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29. Welcome to the back of the bus.
Wow. Thanks for posting.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:41 AM
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30. Welcome to the back of the bus indeed
And with those numbers that were published last week, that wages of 8 out of 10 Americans now stagnant or dropping, we can expect to see a slightly retouched photograph familiar to some of our veteran bus riders: a few of the white privileged lounging in the spacious luxury of the front of the bus, all the rest of us packed one on top of one another suffocating in the aisles in the filthy unconditioned back.

Wonderful blog, Tinoire. Thanks so much for this. That this comes from a white woman gives me a lot of hope. She writes beautifully what some less privileged white people have known and felt and experienced all their lives, but are unable to put into words.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:10 AM
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32. Wide awake reality-based writing.
When people stop hanging onto a non-existent dream and start confronting reality, we may turn a corner.

This woman is a brilliant writer and spot on!!!

I must say, reading this piece almost makes me feel peaceful. Strange. Perhaps, Kate's acknowledgement of what's happening to our country gives me sense of unity.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 12:23 PM
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33. brutal honesty
If only there were a way to translate that to a language that my neighbors could read and understand. It will make no sense, It's not talking about THEM! Must be some other guy, some loser........

Where the hell is our Will Rogers?
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:49 PM
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34. to those who would dismiss race
let's not forget that race continues to a useful wedge for the ruling class. like all wedge issues, race is used to manipulate the gullible to supporting an agenda that is not in their best interest. some people would rather hate than eat or work...because they always have someone to blame.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:33 PM
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35. Wow. I'm so glad so many of you liked this!
Thanks for reading & appreciating it!!!

:loveya: all!
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