China will never use U.S.-style gunboat diplomacy for her energy needs?

[bpilgrim]

Poll question: China will never use U.S.-style gunboat diplomacy for her energy needs?

China on global hunt to quench its thirst for oil

Sunday, June 26, 2005

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"Chinese officials say that no matter how rich and powerful their country becomes, their need for oil will never turn into U.S.-style gunboat diplomacy."

source...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/26/MNG27DF8HQ1.DTL

whaddaya think :shrug:

I thnk it's comming, cause we DO :nuke:

peace

[davepc]

1. Thats like saying a man with a broken leg wont win a 100m dash

They don't have any Navy worth talking about that can perform blue water operations and they have nuclear powers on two borders, one of whom they've had a shooting war in 1962.

[bpilgrim]

7. China refuses to give details on missile tests

Beijing, June 23

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The missile is believed to be able to carry a nuclear warhead for over 9,600 km, far greater than any missile in China's inventory, the reports said.

source...
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/003200506231721.htm

peace

[davepc]

8. so what.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3956183&mesg_id=3956215

[bpilgrim]

9. you said something about their navy...

China's Growing Navy Worries U.S.
International Herald Tribune
December 31, 2004

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China is embarking on a $10 billion submarine acquisition and upgrade program and is buying destroyers and frigates and equipping them with modern antiship cruise missiles, according to Eric McVadon, a retired U.S. Navy admiral who served as defense attache in Beijing in the early 1990s.

"The Chinese are converting their surface navy into a truly modern antiship cruise-missile surface navy," McVadon, now an East Asia security consultant, said after attending a naval review conference in Hawaii. "The modernization of their navy has taken a great leap forward. Their nuclear sub program has taken off like wildfire."

more...
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_china_123104,00.html

peace

[lenidog]

2. I guess since they are troops and not gunboats on the Spratly Islands

that China may not actually own it doesn't count.

[burrowowl]

3. I agree until

China has as many or almost as many ICY BMs to scare the $hit out of a SANE U$ prez.

[davepc]

4. What does their ICBM capability have to do with them using military muscle

to bully small weak neighboring nations to 'toe the line' as it were?

China is not in any position geopolitically to attempt anything close to what would be referred to as 'gunboat diplomacy'.

[oblivious]

5. I believe any country with overwhelming military power would use it.

It's just not reasonable to think that only good-hearted, fair-minded, decent people would aspire to power in such a country.

Such power would attract evil. Why would evil people be content with minor pickings when they could have the power to do whatever they liked?

Of course they would not admit they are evil. They would use propaganda to cover their real motives. So we would have to judge them by their actions.

[Maddy McCall]

6. If history has taught us anything, never say never.

[bpilgrim]

10. true

peace

[bpilgrim]

11. hmmm... seems even DU is split over this issue

i noticed NPR focused attention on China this morning... as they invest in more energy resources I'm am sure that will dominate the headlines in the near future.

peace

[drencrom]

12. china power outages

China already has power outages in the summertime due to all the factories using up all the available power. I'm sure when Peak Oil hits, they'll use their brand-new navy to sieze whatever resources they think they need to be comforable.

[bpilgrim]

13. this competition is going to lead to a world of hurt

unless we confront it now, and not in a military way but a diplomatic way but with oil men at the helm my hopes are not up.

peace