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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:12 AM
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just in: Supreme Court- Ten Commandments NOT ALLOWED in courthouses
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 09:14 AM by mopaul
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:14 AM
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1. Oh, joy....much as I agree with the ruling....
Prepare for the hoards of "Christianity is under attack" bullshit the right wingers.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:27 AM
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9. They're always going to bitch about something
Don't sweat it.

:bounce:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:14 AM
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2. Oooh the RW Fundies will NOT be happy. Makes me Happy!
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freedomburn Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:21 AM
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7. Is the separation of powers trying to maintain the separation of....
church and state? Is the Constitution working? I am still expecting a monolithic Christian Republic of Amerika to try to make us into a fundie cult nation which tries to convert heretics at gun point. Anyone know how many missionaries have plans to start working on new converts in Iraq? Will we make them put the ten commandments in each of their courts since we can't do it here now?

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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:15 AM
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3. vote?
Terrific news, or is this just going to wind up the fundies?

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:17 AM
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4. Yeah
Christianity under attack. Good. We'll get to listen to that for a couple of weeks.

Or maybe the Supreme Court is on a mission to offend everybody.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:17 AM
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5. Damn activist judges!!
All you freepers need to remember SCOTUS is republican run so don't blame us.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:21 AM
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6. Take THAT! Fundy Fascist Fucks!
n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:25 AM
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8. Okay, what about Texas Court House lawns?
Theyr ueld on the Kentucky courts, but what about the Texas Courthouse Lawnm?
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:32 AM
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10. no news yet
The Court DID NOT rule that the 10 Commandments cannot be displayed, they just have to be displayed in a NEUTRAL manner that doesn't imply endorsement of a particular religion or of religion. The 10 Commandments are displayed on the frieze of the Supreme Court....it just isn't displayed in an "endorsement" manner

Following that reasoning....maybe the TX display will be OK if the display is in a history of TX law kind of thing.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:43 AM
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14. The SCOTUS Frieze is definitely religion neutral
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 09:43 AM by Walt Starr
The figures on the frieze include the following:

Menes
Hammurabi
Moses
Solomon
Lycurgas
Solon
Draco
Confucius
Octavian
Justinian
Muhammad
Charlemagne
King John
Louis IX
Hugo Grotius
William Blackstone
John Marshall
Napolean Bonaparte

I don't think that frieze could be more neutral to religion!
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:46 AM
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16. what? no Buddha?
how dare they!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:51 AM
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20. I think the Buddha laughs about not being on a Frieze
Muhammad is there, but Jesus isn't.

:evilgrin:
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:59 AM
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24. maybe Hammurabi met the buddha on the road
and killed him?

Jesus, by the way, is not in the pantheon of lawgivers, he was focused more on the moral side than the legal side.

I, personally, would like to see Maimondes on the list...
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ikri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:51 AM
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19. Better quickly add
Buddha.

Otherwise I'm going to carve The Eightfold Path into some huge stone tablets & litter US courtrooms with them.

:evilgrin:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:54 AM
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23. Photo of the Frieze
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 09:56 AM by Walt Starr
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:33 AM
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11. Why oh why does MSNBC have a priest on to comment on a LEGAL verdict?
Is it too much to ask to have people with legal expertise?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:12 AM
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29. Damn you've got high standards.
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 11:12 AM by Pacifist Patriot
I'd have been happy with a fifth grade social studies teacher. ;)
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:39 AM
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12. Good!!!!
SCOTUS still operating as an independent branch and still oriented on the seperation of church/state. The exremist theocrats will blow a gasket, of course,...but, so what.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:42 AM
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13. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court Session is Ending
and Rehnquist is likely to step down.

Meaning we will have all these pit vipers demanding a fundamentalist justice... like Roy Moore or some damn thing.

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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:06 AM
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28. rehnquist
seems to be hanging on till his last breathe. i think he holds himself responsible for *, and is doing the only thing he can to limit the damage. if he is a human under there, that is.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:24 AM
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30. I Hope So
We need them all to hang tight through 2006 and we need to change the composition of the House and Senate in the midterms.

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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:39 AM
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32. or at least until impeachment
begins to look like a reality.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:44 AM
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15. Nice to see they're consistent
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 09:52 AM by sybylla
How many times do fundies have to have the truth slapped in their face before they see it?
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:49 AM
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17. If churches want the ten commandments displayed
so bad, why don't they display them on their church's lawn? I don't believe I've seen a church with the ten commandments displayed outside.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:50 AM
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18. and don't post them unless you obey them
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:51 AM
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21. well thank God for that.
1 for democracy, zip for the Christian Taliban.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:51 AM
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22. 5 to 4? WTF - it should have been 9-0.

What the hell is wrong with Scalia? Pick an issue; he'll take the exact moral opposite of what's right, what's constitutional.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:03 AM
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25. Many votes are like that nowadays
because you have 4 conservatives, 4 libeerals and Sandra Day O'Conner usually being the swing vote although I do not know how they all voted this time. A 5-4 vote is not surprising though.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:08 AM
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26. Yahhhhhhhoooo oooooooo oooooooo oooooo oooooo oooo ooo!
Good news.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:19 AM
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27. But they're OK out in the yard?
I think that's what I heard..
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:34 AM
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31. Understandable... having read lots of verdicts from the 'court' recently,
such as companies that intentionally promote P2P piracy are liable (just how gun manufacturers aren't liable for people using them) for prosecution or how cable companies can offer what they want and not get charged accordingly or how government can take residential areas and sell them to a corporation...

Ten Commandments no longer apply in government. A 60'x20' mural of a giant dollar bill is infinitely more apropos.
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:43 AM
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33. My home town has it on the courthouse lawn
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 11:43 AM by shirlden
Has been there for many years. This is "good ole boy, redneck" town of Newark, in Licking (yes, I said Licking) County, in the perhaps (depends on if you believe Blackwell) Red State of Ohio.
It has obviously done not one whit of good to display the ten commandments on the courthouse lawn. The citizens voted for Bush, anyway. I still maintain you can't believe in the ten commandments and support the Shrubster.

PS I moved from there years ago and only go back when forced by family events.

:shrug:
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:46 AM
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34. God help me . . .
. . . but I can't help agreeing with Scalia on this one. The majority ruling pretty much punts the question, essentially saying "sometimes the ten c's are OK, and sometimes they aren't." Which means that people are going to keep putting up statues, and each will have to be decided on its own particular merits and context. Scalia, for all his faults in so many other areas, advocates a bright line test. I myself think some kind of statute along the lines of, "put up the 10 c's if you want, but if you do you also have to have the Code of Hammurabi, Magna Carta, and Thomas Paine's The Rights of Man," or words to that effect.
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