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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:53 AM
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Ten Commandments allowed on the grounds of State House
Edited on Mon Jun-27-05 09:58 AM by dogday
in Texas. Not in Courthouse but State House on the ground... Freepers are very happy! Heard on CNN
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:54 AM
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1. Linkage?
Purty please.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:54 AM
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2. CNN right now
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:49 AM
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17. Link here
LBN thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1585002

AP link:

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SCOTUS_TEN_COMMANDMENTS?SITE=JRC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2005-06-27-11-20-40

Court Splits on Ten Commandments Displays

By HOPE YEN
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON (AP) -- A sharply divided Supreme Court on Monday upheld the constitutionality of displaying the Ten Commandments on government land, but drew the line on displays inside courthouses, saying they violated the doctrine of separation of church and state.

Sending dual signals in closely-watched cases, the high court said displays of the Ten Commandments - like their own courtroom frieze - are not inherently unconstitutional. But each exhibit demands scrutiny to determine whether it goes too far in amounting to a governmental promotin of religion, the court said in a case involving Kentucky courthouse exhibits.

In that 5-4 ruling and another ruling, involving the positioning of a 6-foot granite monument of the Ten Commandments on the grounds of the Texas capitol, Justice Sandra Day O'Connor was the swing vote. The second ruling, likewise, was 5-4.

In a stinging dissent to the ruling involving Kentucky's courthouse exhibits, Justice Antonin Scalia declared: "What distinguishes the rule of law from the dictatorship of a shifting Supreme Court majority is the absolutely indispensable requirement that judicial opinions be grounded in consistently applied principle."


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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:46 AM
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18. Thanks
And what the hell is so hard about this. The First Amendment clearly states how religion is to be treated. Scalia makes no sense to me, but maybe I am just dumb.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:55 AM
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3. If the 10 Commandments can stay on the grounds
someone needs to put up a statue of Buddha right next to it.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:55 AM
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5. Let's take a road trip...
hauling Buddha on a trailer...
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:01 AM
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8. Yes, I'd love to!
That would be so cool. I'll bring the beverages. :)
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:55 AM
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4. Watching it on CNN right now...
What an arrogant bastard talking now! All god talk. :puke:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:58 AM
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6. they have a problem LOL
from CNN site

Justices left legal wiggle room, saying that some displays -- like their own courtroom frieze -- would be permissible if they're portrayed neutrally in order to honor the nation's legal history.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:00 AM
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7. Simply put, that means they have to allow a statue of Kali
put up right next to the 10 Cs at state level, whether they like it or not.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:03 AM
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9. WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!
Kali-ma is my FAVORITE Dark Goddess!

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:05 AM
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11. yes the SC took the legal argument that 10 comm. were part of our
historica legacy (the outside case).
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:07 AM
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12. it is a narrow ruling (ie. nativity scenes are NOT part of legal history).
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:09 AM
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13. Also, these were put up in the public arena with private funds
as opposed to state sponsored framed copies of the ten commandments in a court room where participation is compulsory.

Reasonable rulings in both cases.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:05 AM
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10. I have no problem with the Ten Commandments being posted
if it helps Reps to rememeber that lying and murdering and coveting are wrong, that is.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:10 AM
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14. first commandment
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

<sarcasm> no religious preference there </sarcasm>

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:22 AM
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15. It's odd....they want the display on public
ground, but I never see the ten commandments displayed in church yards. How come?
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:44 AM
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16. Ministers said so
Fundies feel persecuted since people disagree with them. They want their crap on the state grounds so people can "know" Deity and make America better. Fundies are running scared. To them, Jesus is late in returning so they have to be extra fundie to have him return. If Jesus doesn't return, we'll see violence but Christianity would fade away as it's myths are exposed. Then we ca have sanity back after 2,000 years of madness.
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