Jobs disappearing all over.

[demgurl]

I just went to my local news channel's website. Anyway, under the job area, here are the only three headlines:

- Winn-Dixie Closing All NC Stores, 16 In Piedmont
- More Layoffs Coming To Triad
- 600 Layoffs Coming To Thomasville Furniture

There is the great economic situation in our area and the wonderful situation our pResident has us in. Aren't you glad he is leading the country?

[Postman]

1. I hear the Army is hiring....

its a real "booming" economy for them...

[corbett]

29. Enlistment Bonuses Are WAY UP! n/t

[Tempest]

2. Lear is cutting 6,500 jobs

GM cutting 25,000 jobs.


But things are going great according to Bush.

[demgurl]

8. tempest, you are right...

he recently said we have the lowest amount of unemployment ever! Fucking moran!!!!

[Tempest]

34. Lear just upped it to 7,700 jobs

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1586499

[getmeouttahere]

3. Reminds me of when my Fundie uncle says....

no poor person ever gave me a job, or created jobs...

Well guess what, Unc, neither are the rich.

Bring back the WPA!

Bring in a corporate charter!

[marmar]

4. And the jobs that are being lost...

are all of the higher paying variety. It's the low paying service sector jobs that keep the unemployment figures from looking bad. If that trend continues, we are sooo fucked!

:scared:

[HockeyMom]

5. PART TIME at

Home Depot, Sears, WalMart, or a Supermarket Chain? Our new jobs of the future.

[getmeouttahere]

6. We're already well on our way, marmar...

you'll hear about more and more people working 2 or 3 jobs and still getting nowhere...and when we can't consume anymore than maybe it will finally start affecting the upper middle class...even then it probably won't matter much to them...after all, even during the depression there were plenty of "haves"

[SoCalDem]

10. and multiple jobs held by people

Say a guy loses a $20 hr job..that's minus one job

BUT when he takes THREE part-time lousy jobs, it actually makes the economy look as though things are just peachy..

Jobs figures are meaningless without the monetary implications posted alongside them:(

[getmeouttahere]

20. Exactamundo!

[JHB]

43. What do you mean "if" it continues?

That's been the trend since the Reagan days. Sure, a new set of high-paying jobs opened up in the tech sector, but it didn't counterbalance all the industrial-sector jobs that were liquidated during merger-mania and shipped overseas.

[Horse with no Name]

7. I talked to a man last night that had been out of work for almost a year

He worked for Exxon in Houston.
He noted that they made record profits last year, yet he is still laid off.
Asked him who he voted for, he said Bush.
But then he quickly said it wasn't Bush's fault he was without a job--it was Congress. When asked if he realized that his party was the majority party, he said that didn't mean anything.
This is a nice guy. He isn't blatantly partisan. I've known him for a long time and I had to ask who he voted for.
I think if our party could help these disconnected Republicans understand that they are voting against their interests, that we would have a bigger tent to gather under.:shrug:

[getmeouttahere]

9. But it's some pretty potent kool-aid....

when someone confronted with the fact that their party has control of the entire legislative branch and they say "that doesn't mean anything"

if someone has ANY idea how to get through to someone like that, please tell us

[BeHereNow]

11. How to get through to someone like that...

Well, THAT is the conundrum, isn't it?
There can be no solution without comprehensive
understanding of the PROBLEM.
Americans, in general, appear to be void
of even a REMOTE comprehension of the problem.
Do I look forward to things getting better
any time soon under these circumstances?
No, it is going to get worse, and then it will get worse.
Not looking for "better" in my lifetime.
BHN

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[fla nocount]

27. Oh yes I do my friend, I know the problem.

Let me pull my tongue from my cheek and say that giving up is not the answer, fatalism is not the answer.

I did not respond as a critic to your opinions but to give a gasp of air to my own. You're welcome to share that gasp.

Patience in battle over centuries will settle the issue we discuss. It is an elemental thing. You may be right as regards terminal resolution of this ancient struggle in this lifetime but I am resolved to see my butt firmly grounded in the see-saw battle just once more before I check out. I owe this to my descendents. I came into this life with a chance of winning this thing. I want to leave others with the same opportunity.

Perhaps being elemental it can't be won but that doesn't mean it should allowed to be lost.

Cheer up, I just know that you're a lovely person.

[BeHereNow]

35. I am curious to know-

Three questions for you:

1. What do you perceive the problem to be?

2. How do you equate realism with "fatalism."

3. Given your understanding of the "problem,"
what is your plan of action?

Finally, your summation/intution of me is correct-
I am a "nice person." However, being a "nice" person
is irrelevant in the grand scheme of what we are facing,
or the "problem" as I see it. Nice has nothing to do with it
as far as the problem/likely outcome for the majority of us.

BHN

[shadowknows69]

13. A shovel up side the head comes to mind

n/t

[BeHereNow]

14. Rolf- know what you mean! N/T

.

[SoCalDem]

16. remind them of how, when Clinton was in office, EVERYTHING was

his fault, yet *² has not claimed ANY problems as his own..

[demgurl]

30. it doesn't mean a thing to them UNLESS....

* gets a blowjob in the White House. That is the end all of everything.

On a serious note, when you can not convince them their party is responsible for anything, it is hard to know what to say. It will take a very big scandal to get them to snap out of it. If there were not so many of us who are openly against the * regime, I would think they have somehow drugged the water. Their blind following is an outrage.

[paula777]

12. Nope, the hard core ones are too stupid to connect the dots

If the dems were in charge he would be LIVID, but he's too blinded by party loyalty. I hope he suffers the entire Bush term.

[yankeedem]

25. Screw him

Hope he doesn't get a job until he figures it out.
He voted to lose his job.
He voted for limited unemployment benefits.
He voted for less job retraining funds.
He voted for tax cuts for the rich.
He voted to sell our debt to the Chinese.

Is it mean to expect him to live in the world he created?

I will add, it would be tempting for me to tell him that he didn't work hard enough, or that he didn't have enough education and he needs to go to community college. After all, that's the Republican way. Stop 'yer bitching and stop leeching off of society, deadbeat poor person.

[tsuki]

26. They just can't stand to think that they might have been taken in; that

they are not as smart as they think they are. I see it all the time. People that buy crap from a "good" source at a "real good" price and them come to me for parts because the contractor screwed it up, or the plumber screwed it up. The piece is usually a plastic POS, but the brand loyalty of the person that bought it is so great that they cannot bear to admit it is a POS even after you show them the plastic and pot metal interiors.

Most people get angry at having been taken in, but their are some that will insist that it is everyone else's fault.

[marions ghost]

41. good example...

There is a lot of resistance to admitting that the product you put all your trust in has failed you. It's especially scary to think that if you voted for Bushco, you bear a certain responsibility for their driving the boat straight into the pier. Those who did have doubts at the election but "stuck to the brand" are pathetic. At least they could have chosen not to vote. Herd Mentality takes over easily in a world of fear.

So blame it all on the Democrats in Congress...that's a lot easier than taking responsibility. Any Republican with a few brain cells (and a shred of integrity) left should be complaining loudly to their reps right now. Their team is a disaster.

[Biased Liberal Media]

36. Problem is, is that a lot of these people who voted for *

are also fundamentalists or go with what their church tells them to. I fully believe that my mom would be an out lesbian and a liberal if she ditched her church.

[Hidden Stillness]

15. Devastated Midwest

The whole Midwest has been devastated by the loss of good manufacturing jobs, which were never replaced, leaving people with the necessity of replacing the one good (union, for example) job, with two, or one full-time and two part-time, jobs, which destroys the whole fiber of society. When was the last time Bush and those people even addressed any of the problems we actually have? What do Republicans do all day? They are unrelated to our whole country.

[getmeouttahere]

19. I can remember, back in the late 80's, early 90's....

when my fundie uncle would complain that we here in California were losing manufacturing jobs to states with more favorable business climates, some in the midwest...now even those states are losing the jobs

We have no chance unless a corporate charter, along the lines of something Kucinich proposes, is instituted. Also, we need to buy our products from companies that are still manufacturing in the U.S. It won't be easy, but it's all we've got.

[Deja Q]

17. There's a place in upstate NY (mfg) that's cutting 900 jobs.

Great economic situation for whom?

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. misery index

it continues to rise,

[Kansas Wyatt]

21. In this robust BOOMING economy, things have never been better...

Provided you are independently wealthy and are in George W. Bush's "elite base."

[lectrobyte]

22. All the good news...

http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/24/news/fortune500/ibm_india/index.htm?cnn=yes

[earth mom]

28. Welcome to the back of the bus...

:cry:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3955330

[Bouncy Ball]

31. GM Plant in Arlington, Texas (BIG employer)

is laying off loads of people. I don't know what's going to happen, things just keep getting worse.

[devilgrrl]

32. If people would just display the Ten Commandments....

people wouldn't be out of work. :sarcasm:

[stevans_41902]

33. In the business section of the KC Star there were 3 stories about layoffs

in one day:
IBC cutting 350 jobs
Mass layoffs in may hit 128,771 workers
GE cutting number of business units

[Bravo411]

37. IBM creating 14,000 new jobs ... in India.

But it's at the cost of jobs in the U.S. and Europe.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/24/news/fortune500/ibm_india/index.htm

[anarchy1999]

38. Are you any where near PineHurst? We just came back from there and

Boy hoody, do I have stories to tell about the haves and the have nots.

My very dear beloved mother-in-law (bless her heart) has no clue. But S, all the people that work at "WaL Mart" just "love" their jobs. Mom, they used to have better jobs. Have you looked at the statistics for where you live and what you are paying to take care of those Wally World workers? Nope.

Time to go drive on the golf course and find birds, don't ya know?

I'm sorry and we are trying.

[BMG]

39. Working 50 hours a week.

Costco + Bannana Republic; started one of em today, mostly manual labor related. Specially the 5 A.M stocking shift for BR. I dont even want to have to deal with the real work force when I am done with college. :(

[area51]

40. Thanks, Bush.

You've really destroyed our economy. :mad:

[BooScout]

42. Mine's going....

Thank god we have a back-up plan. We are getting the hell out and moving to the UK.