Ok, Just Got Home, Missed The Speech, GIVE ME THE LOWDOWN

[Beetwasher]

Please. Your thoughts on speech itself and your thoughts on general media ho reaction so far. Thanks!

[philosophie_en_rose]

1. Same old. Same old.

Blah blah blah. . . hard work. 9/11. fly a flag. go enlist.

[Beetwasher]

17. Man, You Know What? That's Fucking Sickeningly Ballsy That He's Calling f

for enlistment. What a demented fuckwad.

[WillyT]

44. I Had The Same Reaction Too, Beet...

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3971479&mesg_id=3971479

:hi:

[LSK]

2. search "Bush official thread" to see the play by play

There were 5 threads of us listening to the BS.

[Beetwasher]

6. Too Much Work, I'm A Lazy Fuck, Your Synopsis Would Be Appreciated!

Thanks!

[CatWoman]

8. but your'e a CUTE lazy fuck!!

:hi:

[Beetwasher]

14. Hey Darlin'!

:loveya:

[ProfessorGAC]

11. Exactly What You Expected Him To Say

Zero news. Nothing interesting. Same old same old. Hard work. Progress, blah, blah. Democracy. Terrorism. 9/11. Good soldiers. More people should join and die. Standard stuff.
The Professor

[Beetwasher]

12. Thanks Prof!

I figured I didn't miss much. How are ya brother? :toast:

[ProfessorGAC]

24. Away On Biz

In Philly this week. One more day than back in the toothpaste tube for a ride home Thursday.

Worked 16 hours today. I'm burnt. I watched the speech on line between late night meetings with operating staff.
The Professor

[Beetwasher]

26. I Hear Ya!

I been crazy too! Good stuff though this time! I'm actually getting married this weekend! Just got back from dinner w/ my fiance's folks who just flew in from Japan tonight. Feeling sated, "Smith & Wollensky's" style...

[ProfessorGAC]

29. Well Many Congratulations!

I did not know that. Have a very nice time and i wish you a happy marriage.
The Professor

[Beetwasher]

31. Thanks!

:toast:

[Gemini Cat]

35. Chimpy said 9-11 six times...

...I lost count on how many times 'freedom' and 'terror' was mentioned.

[lonestarnot]

41. Is that all? No context about how he went about the plan to destroy WTC?

[LSK]

16. think of every lie he has ever said in a speech about Iraq

He just recycled them all. If you watch the state of the union from this year, it might be an exact copy of that speech.

9/11 -> Osama -> terrorists -> Iraq -> freedom

One thing I noticed is that he didnt say "hard work", now its "difficult work". He must have learned a new word!

[kath]

21. ooh, a three-syllable word! Good job, Georgie!

[Beetwasher]

23. He Was Ridiculed Too Much For That

I'm getting the impression it may have been a real flop. ;-)

[PinkTiger]

3. 9/11, terra, stay the course, I rock, yada yada yada

Anything else you need to know???

And this is my thousandth post, by the way.

I rock!!!!!!!

:yourock:

[Beetwasher]

18. Congrats!

:thumbsup:

[PinkTiger]

39. Thanks! I'll give you 1001!

Nt

[XemaSab]

4. www.cnn.com

has the whole thing on video.

[CatWoman]

7. and Dem Bloggers has Dem reaction on video

http://www.dembloggers.com/

[XemaSab]

28. Sweet. thanks. n/t

.

[CatWoman]

5. He cried

can you fucking believe it?

I didn't watch either -- but there's tons of threads.

MoPaul has a pic posted of him crying.

MoPaul is the author of the thread, and it has 80 plus replies.

[Beetwasher]

9. That's So Friggin Awesome!

He cried. You can't write shit like that. You just can't. :hi:

[noamnety]

10. oh, let's see

the terrorists attacked us
we are spreading democracy
freedom's on the march
Don't forget the alamo september 11
*please enlist so I don't have to chose between ending my little crusade or starting a draft*

[Beetwasher]

19. Think About How Sick That Is That He's Calling For People To Enlist

It's fucking mindboggling.

[Fire Walk With Me]

45. "Please don't kill me"

http://www.google.com/search?biw=936&hl=en&q=bush+death+row+please+don%27t+kill+me&btnG=Google+Search

Just seems to tie in somehow.

[bejammin075]

13. Post speech TV: no representation of the 100%

after the speech (and before it too) they talk about the president's sinking poll numbers, but never in the context that the population now has hard evidence that the entire policy was based on lies.

no mention of the DSM. WTF?

nobody on TV is representing the 100.0% who were lied to. All of the viewpoints were the 0.0% who were told the truth.

[Beetwasher]

20. Well, At Least They're Talking About the Sinking Poll Numbers

The lies everyone knows about already, now people just need to know they're not alone in feeling betrayed. It snowballs from there.

[dave29]

15. Bush lied, then he cried

thats about it

[Beetwasher]

22. I Can't Believe He Cried. It's Too Cheezy to be True

Amazing. Perhaps Chimpy's "I am not a crook" moment?

[Catbird]

25. Thanks to all of you for the concise summaries

I feel a lot better about having to work late myself. If I'd been home, I might have been tempted to watch. That wouldn't have done me or anyone else any good. And I probably would have been even more disgusted at the speech than about having to work late.

:( :( :(

[DemonFighterLives]

27. I missed it too.

Msnbc was replaying it so I caught the last 10-15 minutes.
He must have been talking about a different war. It sounded like it was going so well.
Playing up for some flag sales and waving for the 4th of July for us Free Americans. He was continuously smirking until he choked up about talking to some soldiers families. I think someone must have given him an earful.
C span is playing Kerry's pre- emptive speech from today. Oops. Just ended.

[CatWoman]

30. lolol -- check this out!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/29/opinion/29wed1.html?oref=login

President Bush's Speech About Iraq

Published: June 29, 2005

President Bush told the nation last night that the war in Iraq was difficult but winnable. Only the first is clearly true. Despite buoyant cheerleading by administration officials, the military situation is at best unimproved. The Iraqi Army, despite Mr. Bush's optimistic descriptions, shows no signs of being able to control the country without American help for years to come. There are not enough American soldiers to carry out the job they have been sent to do, yet the strain of maintaining even this inadequate force is taking a terrible toll on the ability of the United States to defend its security on other fronts around the world.

We did not expect Mr. Bush would apologize for the misinformation that helped lead us into this war, or for the catastrophic mistakes his team made in running the military operation. But we had hoped he would resist the temptation to raise the bloody flag of 9/11 over and over again to justify a war in a country that had nothing whatsoever to do with the terrorist attacks. We had hoped that he would seize the moment to tell the nation how he will define victory, and to give Americans a specific sense of how he intends to reach that goal - beyond repeating the same wishful scenario that he has been describing since the invasion.

Sadly, Mr. Bush wasted his opportunity last night, giving a speech that only answered questions no one was asking. He told the nation, again and again, that a stable and democratic Iraq would be worth American sacrifices, while the nation was wondering whether American sacrifices could actually produce a stable and democratic Iraq.

Given the way this war was planned and executed, the president does not have any good options available, and if American forces were withdrawn, Iraq would probably sink into a civil war that would create large stretches of no man's land where private militias and stateless terrorists could operate with impunity. But if Mr. Bush is intent on staying the course, it will take years before the Iraqi government and its military are able to stand on their own. Most important of all - despite his lofty assurance last night that in the end the insurgents "cannot stop the advance of freedom" - all those years of effort and suffering could still end with the Iraqis turning on each other, or deciding that the American troops were the ultimate enemy after all. The critical challenge is to gauge, with a clear head, exactly when and if the tipping point arrives and the American presence is only making a terrible situation worse.

[Beetwasher]

32. *gasp* *spurt* *gurgle*

:wow:

That's some of the harshest shit I've seen in the NYT in a loooong fucking time.

[CatWoman]

33. and it's five fucking pages long!!!!!!

what a night!!!!!

:D

[gratuitous]

34. Holy smokes! The Times editorial staff said THAT?

"The war in Iraq is difficult by winnable -- only the first is clearly true." Is THIS the New York Times of Elisabeth Bumiller and her weekly valentine to that hunk of a president she loves so much? Is this the Times that featured the bamboozled Judith Miller all during the lead-up to war, telling us that old guys in baseball caps walking around a hundred yards away from her and pointing at the ground was really showing her where those old debbil weapons of mass destruction were?

Has the Times at last quit hitting the snooze alarm and woken up?

[NYC]

36. Thanks, CatWoman.

That was enjoyable reading. :hi:

[Justice]

37. This OpEd deserves its own thread

[CatWoman]

38. Willy T has one going

and I've posted it in GD Politics

:hi:

[smartvoter]

40. Transcript here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3975038

[lonestarnot]

42. I imagine that about sums it up!

[oasis]

43. Bush didn't apologize for stiring up the hornet's nest in the first place.

He's got to deal with being the cause of the mess with his war of choice.