We are fighting them over there, so we won't have to fight them here

[CatWoman]

how FUCKING STUPID is that rationale?

and anyone who repeats it needs to be socked in the fucking mouth.

[knowbody0]

1. like Iraq is a designated battleground

it is so disrespectful and arrogant.

[dogday]

5. Funny thing is someone forgot to tell the Iraqis.....

[bryant69]

2. Yeah

I've never understood that rationale, nor do I understand how those who support it can believe that they are the ones "supporting the troops."

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Dawgs]

4. How about supporting the Iraqis?

Over 700 innocent Iraqis are dying each month, and the Bush apologists pretend that we are spreading Democracy.

Their rationale is disgusing on so many levels.

[markus]

3. It's ridiculous and irrational

I have a feeling in my other thread that some (present thread company excepted) wanted to do that when I suggested that--even if the screwy honey pot approach to the war on terror made sense--we were already at war in Afghanistan *legally*, with the support of the entire world, and half the active jihadists in the region already there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3979238

[Tamyrlin79]

6. Iraq: Training the Next Generation of Terrorist Bombers

That's the truth and should be the meme, not this fighting them over there BS. The fact is that our war there is making fighting them here in the future even more likely.

[blm]

7. I'll match your sockinthefuckingmouth and raise you one pulverizing kick

in the ass.

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[blm]

18. If he's anything like Bill Bennett, he'll like it....

and tip us handsomely to boot.

;))))))))))))))))))

[clydefrand]

8. And I know a few I would love to do just that to.

I agree. How stupid can you be to say it's alright to invade another country and kill their innocent citizens because people from an unrelated country or countries attacked us? What do they think? I know, I know...they think Iraqis attacked us.

Just heard some representative, I think, from NC say this morning that he had more information, than the lady on CNN asking the questions, about who attacked us and that Iraq was involved. Then just a few minutes ago, I heard a well-known woman representative whose name I can't remember right now, say there was no proof that Iraq had anything to do with the attack. She did say that there was some communication between the Al Quaeda? and Iraq, but gee, that could mean a lot of things.

Wish newspapers would come out with big headlines all over the country and tell everyone once and for all what the damn truth is.

[CatWoman]

12. it must have been this asshole

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3977178

[Brotherjohn]

9. There are so many flaws with that reasoning, it's hard to know where to...

... begin.

But for starters, how do you know who is going to attack us? Apparently, that's been a pretty hard nut for us to crack in the not-too-distant past. Have you recently obtained a time machine, Mr. Bush, or developed extra sensory perception?

No?

So I guess the only way to "defeat them abroad before they attack us at home" is to attack and subjugate an entire nation... one which, I might add, may have actually had less to do with the attack on us than any other Middle Eastern nation.

Pay no attention to the seething masses of angered Iraqis who've lost wives, children... babies... in the name of your attempt at "stabilizing the Mid East". It's not like we've ever experienced blowback from well-intentioned interference in a South Asian country before, is it? None of our loyal, flower-petal-throwing subjects is likely to follow in Osama's footsteps, are they? And if they do, well, they can't get out of Iraq, right? I mean, we control the airports, we control the Syrian border... we DO control the Syrian border, don't we?

[Tamarin]

11. Are we using the Iraqi people

for human shields? Seems to me it's a version of that concept.

[Kraklen]

13. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3980134&mesg_id=3980134

[Devlzown]

14. To believe that, then one must believe

that war was declared against America on Sep. 11. 9/11 is what this whole mess we've gotten ourselves into in the Middle East hinges upon. That's why they can't talk about the war in Iraq without bringing up 9/11. If one doesn't accept the official version of what happened on that day, then the justification for our actions over there begins to unravel. And I think fewer and fewer Americans are accepting their version.

[gumby]

15. Maybe you can sock them in the mouth

with a Domino Theory?!?

[edhopper]

16. Here is what the Iraqis should tell *

You fucking coward. If you want to fight the terrorist, fight them in your own fucking country. Who asked you to turn our country into a fucking battlefield, just to keep your ass safe. Now, get the fuck out!!

[LightningFlash]

17. Hey he's telling the truth for once.

Iraq has been turned into a virtual breeding ground for terrorists, its a giant flytrap catching more and more terrorists and creating them as we speak. Isn't that great news on the rosy side?

:shrug: :shrug:

[SoCalDem]

19. Why is it always necessary to FIGHT at all?

Why not figure out a way to mke friends, instead of enemies:shrug:

All our wars have only created new enemies, and created a seething hatred of us that lasts forever:(

[CatWoman]

22. making friends isn't on *'s "to do" list

all terra, all the time.........

[Island Blue]

20. So does that make Iraq a neutral site

so that neither side will have a home field advantage or something? I'm very confused now about who we supposedly went there to fight in the first place. If it was Saddam - ok we got him. It couldn't have been the "insurgents" because they weren't even there before we got there! I'm so confused! :sarcasm:

[MsUSA]

21. Woman congressman on C-SPAN this morning said that......and I thought

how stupid is that.

[berni_mccoy]

23. It's actually CRIMINAL

For them to use this rational.

Check out this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3978218&mesg_id=3978218

[antigone382]

24. reminds me of "those people have been fighting for thousands of years."

The logic being that if they've been blowing each other up all this time, what's the difference if we blow them up and save them the trouble.

I'd like to challenge some freeptard using that line to show me ONE region of the world, ANY region, where they HAVEN'T been fighting for thousands of years! In America alone, even if you exclude thousands of years of war-frought Native American history, and only consider the time since the Europeans discovered it--nay, since the British landed here, we've fought with the Native Americans, the Dutch, the French, the British, the Native Americans again, the British, the Native Americans again, the Mexicans, the Native Americans AGAIN, ourselves, and the Native Americans one last soul crushing time, and BEFORE we even stopped fighting on our own soil, we started fighting everywhere else.

And the same applies to just about every country, region, and continent on the planet. Hey Freeptards! Before you start claiming that the Middle Eastern is full of primitive, violent, war-like people (oh the irony) who deserve to be nuked off the face of the earth, why don't you take a short look in the mirror? Oh, that's right, you'd break it.

:rant:

OK, now I'm going to go patiently sip some green tea.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. We're killing them over there so politicians can keep their seats.

By making "them" a threat and waving the flag while shouting "Support Our Troops".

[Disturbed]

27. The Bush Regime and their Cult are clever.

The Bush Regime decide to invade Iraq BEFORE the 911 Attack. They needed a legal reason besides Regime Change, so they invented one: WMDs in Iraq and looming threat. They duped the Congress and the Amerikan people with that lie but when no WMDs were found a new reason was put forth. Saddam had intentions to restart WMD programs. When that didn't fly they invented "Spreading Democracy". Now the new, improved idea is "Fighting terrorists over there instead of here."

Seems to me that is an open invitation to terrorists to bring their jihad to Amerika. The borders are wide open so bring it on.

[Aristus]

26. God! I love it when you talk dirty, Cat!

Yes, the rationale is fucking stupid, especially when you consider that B*sh had a chance to fight them over here after receiving the PDB of August 9, 2001. But no, he was too busy snoring away, cutting brush for the cameras, playing golf, etc.

Man, I'd give one of my arms to have Bill Clinton back in the White House.