They've Gone Off the Deep End. OKC Bombing Linked to Iraq?

[maxrandb]

The Freekers are all salivating about some wing-nut book, and an even "wing-nutier" congresscritter from CA named Dana Rohrabacher.

So this is the 269th reason we went into Iraq. Saddam was responsible for the Oklahoma City Bombing!!!!!

I mean, after-all, according to the story, at some point, somewhere, for some amount of time, Terry Nichols was seen with Arabs!!!

What more proof do we need. "Onward Christian Soldiers"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1434057/posts

In his quizzing of Nichols, the congressman relied heavily on the investigative work of journalist Jayna Davis and her book, "The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing," published by WND Books. Davis asserts Nichols and Timothy McVeigh were not the lone conspirators but were part of a greater scheme involving Islamic terrorists and at least one provable link to Iraq.

As WorldNetDaily reported, Rohrabacher has said he is "deeply disturbed" that the FBI did not follow up on affidavits Davis turned over to the bureau from 22 witnesses supporting evidence that Iraqi intelligence agents infiltrated the United States to recruit and assist McVeigh and Nichols.

the freeper comments are hysterical

My own personal view on the cover-up is that Clinton didn't want to deal with global terrorism, or with the growing necessity for dealing with Saddam Hussein. By 1998, the issue had become so urgent, if you recall, that there was a congressional resolution stating that the official policy of the United States of America was a "REGIME CHANGE IN IRAQ!"

.......but Clinton slyly left the "hard work" for his successor, and now, none of the Clinton Kool Aid drinkers want to remember how incompetent and negligent he was in confronting this massive evil and major threat to our country.

To: CHARLITE
This is hardly a surprise, the dems have been covering for their religion of peace for years.

22 posted on 06/30/2005 11:38:25 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.

To: CHARLITE
It's about danged time they uncover the Iraq complicity!
Ramzi Yousef (1993 WTC bomber) and Nichols crossed paths in the Phillipines. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (9/11) was Yousef's uncle. It is interesting to note that Yousef entered the United States on an Iraqi passport and had been known among the New York fundamentalists as "Rashid, the Iraqi". Another name that could be thrown into the mix is Abdul Rahman Yasin (1993 WTC), a U.S. citizen whose family moved to Iraq in the 1960's shortly after he was born and he returned to the U.S. in 1992. After the 1993 WTC bombing, Yasin fled to Iraq and was given monthly salary and housing by Saddam Hussein's regime.

38 posted on 06/30/2005 11:49:26 AM PDT by ravingnutter

To: CHARLITE
"My own personal view on the cover-up is that Clinton didn't want to deal with global terrorism, or with the growing necessity for dealing with Saddam Hussein."

Yes...and the reason for this is because Clinton came into office with one major priority: Mid-East Peace between Israel and Palestine. That is why even after the first WTC attack in 1993, it wasn't Arabs he went after...but Christians at Waco

[Ezlivin]

1. They can prove it

Just have the FBI release the 22 high quality color surveillance tapes from the Murrah building and surrounding buildings that it confiscated and has never released.

That should prove something, but none of us can be sure what it will be.

[bullimiami]

2. there were many reports of arabs in okc before the bombing

but the fbi etc never went there and they killed off the guy who knew so I guess we cant ask him now.

all it does it make it more suspicious that the us agencies are in the middle of a bunch of crap we would be outraged at, and bush and co are intel insiders big time.

[Kazak]

27. "they killed off the guy who knew"

Terry Nichols is still alive... :shrug:

[ComerPerro]

3. They just invent "facts" to suit their delusional paranoia

Amazing.

[maxrandb]

13. It's Up to Almost 200 Posts Now and Check some of These Out

To: Czar
If people knew the truth about OKC, they support for the war in Iraq would go through the roof. Democrats just can't have that.

54 posted on 06/30/2005 12:03:40 PM PDT by Peach

To: doug from upland
I believe that both WTC attacks, Oklahoma City, and TWA 800 are all related. Al Qaeda decided long ago that its primary target in America would be the WTC towers. The 1993 bombing obviously was a direct attempt to bring down the towers, but it did not work. The OKC bombing was a test run to see if a truck bomb could be built big enough to bring down the WTC towers. It did not work either. Hence no more truck bombs in the U.S. following OKC. TWA 800 was a test to see whether enough explosive power could be produced by blowing up a jumbo jet to bring down the WTC towers. It worked. The Egypt Air crash may also have been a test to see if a suicide pilot would really go through with crashing a plane, and whether the passengers could or would prevent it. That worked too. Voila.....9/11. Osama bin Laden was hired as the "hit man" by Saddam Hussein, because of Saddam's intense desire for revenge against America after the first Gulf War.

64 posted on 06/30/2005 12:08:43 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (No government will EVER take my house from me!!)

this is my personal favorite so far

To: doug from upland
Doug, that is an excellent idea - Hire Mark Fuhrman !!

They tried to demonize him during the OJ debacle, but he sure as hell nailed that Skakel scum for the death of Martha -----ack, her last name went right out of my head.

BTW, I think I saw mentioned that he was going to Aruba to investigate Natalee's disappearance, (speaking of gov't corruption)

:rofl:

162 posted on 06/30/2005 12:56:13 PM PDT by baseballmom

[ComerPerro]

18. Didn't notice that DFU had posted it.

Hes a freak, no doubt. But he also posts "satire" there (or at least their lame attempt at satire, anyone ever notice that right wing humor isn't really that funny?).

Maybe he posted it as satire. Then, either the nuts there took him seriously and expanded on it, or they are being satrical as well (I doubt this scenario).


Or, maybe he is dead serious when he posted this.

Hard to say...

[maxrandb]

19. DFU

Stands for "Doug's Fucked Up", right????

[ComerPerro]

23. Naturally

[XemaSab]

21. Wow, that's logical

"If people knew the truth about OKC, they support for the war in Iraq would go through the roof. Democrats just can't have that."

So lemme get this straight, the administration refuses to release hidden information about OKC because if they did, support for the Iraq war would go through the roof?

Oh, I get it! They're just trying to keep down support for the war by suppressing evidence in the OKC bombing! The administration WANTS low support for the war, so they are keeping any information that might boost war support away from the public...

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. No, no, no.

It's the obstructionist democrats who do not control either house or the white house who are resposnible for the truth not getting out.

Get your talking points straight.

[XemaSab]

28. I thought the democratic insurgency

was in its last throes and victory was imminent.

:shrug:

[RaleighNCDUer]

36. Democracy is in the marsh!

[BulletproofLandshark]

4. It Must Kill Them To Know

that the OKC bombing was perpetrated by Tim McVeigh, a far-right wing, Limbaugh-loving FREEPER who got his just reward thanks to the Justice Department under BILL CLINTON. But it kills me to know to know that McVeigh and those responsible for the '93 WTC bombing were caught, tried, and convicted for their heinous crimes, and Bush is supposed to be "strong on terror". Cognitive dissonance at its' worst.

[berni_mccoy]

30. If the FREEPTARDS only watched Fahrenheit 911 they'd know that.

[prodigal_green]

5. I'm pretty sure those links have been debunked.

And if they are true, then doesn't it mean that white supremacists are in league with Iraqi terrorists? Should we start rounding up all white men who have military experience and who are Christian?

The Freeper arguments make no sense. OK, that was redundant.

[BulletproofLandshark]

6. Deleted

double post

[seabeyond]

7. a lot of odd coincidences with okc and the gonvernor and the

guy beheaded. i am curious about all the coincidences myself. trusting no one.

i didnt read your huge post though so i dont know if we are talking same thing or new stuff

[BOSSHOG]

8. Christian Terrorism blew up the Murrah Building

and dana rohrabacher is a fucking typical delusional right wing asshole. McVeigh was prompted to reduce the size of the federal government by listening to right wing radio. If he were alive today he would be posting on free republic because he, like them, hated/hates the constitution. That cherished document allows us to freely tell the truth about them and that is not part of their plan.

[pocket]

17. McVeigh was an athiest

unfortunately.

[kwolf68]

9. Holy Cow

Are those people real?

We all know why Oklahoma City was bombed...It was bombed by anti-government militants who were inspired (to act) and enraged by the events of Waco and Ruby Ridge.

The murders in Oklahoma City were political murders by extreme ideologues, who if were alive or not in jail today would most likely be posted at FreeRepublic

[Bluebear]

10. Rohrabacher . . cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo n/t

[indepat]

11. And I had thought Oklahoma City to be the product of a home-grown RW

terrorist. But that's what I get for thinking.

[sinkingfeeling]

12. I guess they read different history books and get their news from a

different source. Maybe they should try a google search and see what became of the first WTC attackers. Here's a story from CNN, dated Aug. 5, 1998:

http://www.cnn.com/US/9808/05/wtc.bombing.01/

"The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 150-page ruling, denied the request for retrial from the militant Muslims who were arrested within weeks of the explosion that rocked the twin towers in lower Manhattan."

Not only were they tried, convicted, and sentenced, they had their appeal ruling by 1998. Where's bin Laden?

[leveymg]

14. Read "Others Unknown", McVeigh's capable defense atty. wrote

that the Murrah bombing operation was organized by White Supremacists with the aid of German Neo-Nazis. There were also a key Middle Eastern operative, John Doe #3 (I recall), but his identity and nationality was never publicly determined.

[Frederik]

25. Amazingly, there may be

links between Osama and European Neo-Nazis. The story about the threat to the G8 meeting in Genoa that was reported in the summer of 2001 was that Bin Laden had teamed up with European Neo-Nazis to attack the meeting with hijacked airplanes.

[leveymg]

29. Where did you see that, Frederik?

Link, si tu quieres?

[Cats Against Frist]

32. I saw a documentary on this on television

it was labeled a "conspiracy theory." Went deep into the heart of right-wing whacko separatist country. I wish I could remember what their little city was called. Anyway, that guy whose dad was a Nazi is definitely free in Europe. I forget what happened to the socialite chick. Cool show.

[texastoast]

15. As usual, it was the Clenis

Somebody go over there and give those people a new mantra. Timothy McVeigh was one of THEM! Their own little right-wing nutjob homie.

"Yes...and the reason for this is because Clinton came into office with one major priority: Mid-East Peace between Israel and Palestine. That is why even after the first WTC attack in 1993, it wasn't Arabs he went after...but Christians at Waco."

Helloooo, freepers, baby-fucking, messiah-complexed David Koresh was NOT a Christian. But, I can see how freepers would think he is.

[thinkingwoman]

16. that dog didn't hunt

right after the OKC bombing....so they've reanimated it? Geesh.

[Kraklen]

20. Freepers are the people involved in OKC.

It's exactly that sort of looney ultra-right wing redneck militia movement bullshit that was responsible.

Of course they're going to pass the buck.

[Elwood P Dowd]

24. The Clintons helped Saddam plan 9-11

They were bitter over the attempted impeachment and Al Gore's loss in the 2000 election. The Clintons flew to Cuba for a secret meeting with Castro and Saddam in the Spring of 2001 to finalize the plan.

The Clintons assumed Bush would not have the courage to fight back or the intelligence to connect Iraq with the attacks. As it turned out, Bush proved to be a genius and a brave American, and he took the attack to the Iraqis.

Why do you think the Clintons are so buddy-buddy with H.W. Bush? H.W. has agreed to protect the Clintons for the sake of the country.

Also, have you wondered why so many FBI, CIA, and other intel workers have been fired? It's because they were in on the 9-11 attacks. Bush had to clean house of all the traitors.

Freeper Fred From Fresno ;-)

[leveymg]

33. You missed the assassination of Dale Earnhardt by Eye-ran

Now that was cause fo' mo' wo' ;) :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :evilgrin:

[Redleg]

26. Now that's a conspiracy theory! Holy pantload, Batman.

Those freepers are going apeshit down there.

[Zero Division]

31. The Right Wing Conspiracist Laurie Mylroie is responsible for this

More about her here: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0312.bergen.html">" Laurie Mylroie: The Neocons' favorite conspiracy theorist."

[Jack Rabbit]

34. Saddam's WMDs are in a Mosque at Nichols' farm

And Islam is a Communist conspracy.

[maxrandb]

35. These Two Freekers Almost Get It. OKC Hit a Little Too Close to Home

for them. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were a couple of "right-wing, white supremicist, militia wing-nut Rush listeners". Perhaps the DA in Florida can add conspiracy to incite mass murder to Rush's little drug charge.

From the freaks:

"****** The week after OKC, I happened to be on the East Coast, chaperoning 38 high school foreign exchange students. On Tuesday morning of that week, while in NYC, we went to the NBC Studios in hope of getting some face time for our organization on the Today show.

While standing on the streetcorner, a couple of NBC pages were out soliciting the crowd with "free tickets" to a television show. Our group accepted the offer and were were in the studio audience of the Phil Donohue Show.

Donohue had received his talking points from the Clinton White House. The entire show was a hit piece against the right wing militia groups. They had satelite hook-ups to some reps of a Michigan Militia group. That developed into a gun-grabbing diatribe by Donohue.

Just a little tidbit from my perspective of events following the assault on OKC. We did, btw, have a student in our group who was living in OKC. She really didn't have much to say on the subject."


173 posted on 06/30/2005 1:09:05 PM PDT by Diver Dave

"To: truthaboveall
Mass Murderer #1: Conservative Talk Radio

Remember? According to the left's account, there was one bomber, 150 million co-conspirators and, at the top, a few dozen hate-driven conservative talk radio show hosts who inspired the crime.

Said President Clinton of these damnable talk radio hosts:

" purveyors of hate and division ... leave the impression, by their very words, that violence is acceptable."

The leftist media took the cue. Bryant Gumbel added: "The bombing in Oklahoma City has focused renewed attention on the rhetoric that's been coming from the right and those who cater to angry white men.

"While no one's suggesting right-wing radio jocks approve of violence , the extent to which their approach fosters violence is being questioned by many observers, including the president. ...

"Right-wing talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh, Bob Grant, Oliver North, G. Gordon Liddy, Michael Reagan and others take to the air every day with basically the same format: Detail a problem, blame the government or a group, and invite invective from like-minded people."

Time senior writer Richard Lacayo piled on: "In a nation that has entertained and appalled itself for years with hot talk on the radio ... the inflamed rhetoric of the '90s is suddenly an un-indicted co-conspirator in the blast."



158 posted on 06/30/2005 12:52:38 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)