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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:03 PM
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The reason we have lost the past two elections and the Midterm
in 2002 was our agenda was dictated by the DLC which wanted to disenfranchise our own base and did not want the Democratic Party as being seen standing up for the rights of blacks, women,Hispanics etc.
This was sensed by the base which showed very little enthusiasm for our Party anointed candidates.It is only the emergence of Howard Dean and his repudiation of the DLC wing that made our base become enthusiastic again.Even when Dean lost to Kerry, it was his request that turned out our voters in droves to vote for Kerry.

Despite this, Trojan Horses like Al From, Lieberman are out to scuttle any chances of our victory by repeating the "Me Too Republicanism" that led to our defeat. I am sorry to see Mrs.Clinton climbing aboard that bandwagon, but that is to be expected because, like Gore Vidal said, we have only one party, the Money Party, with two wings.

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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:08 PM
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1. I think the exploitation of 9/11 explain '02 and '04 more than anything.
They were just more organized. The "Libruls are yella" message carried the day.
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navvet Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:49 PM
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6. The same message has been working for the GOP for
over 25 years and will continue to if we are not careful.

Somehow we have got to shake this stereotype and become creditable to people as willing to defend the nation.

I realize that we are but Joe and Jane Six pack think other wise (or Shrub does not win last fall).

The Democratic party must be seen as willing to defend the nation or it will continue to be beaten over the head with this again and again (See Rove's comment of last week).

:shrug: :dem:
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:19 PM
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2. Mrs. Clinton isn't climbing on the bandwagon.
She and Bill have been leading it from the start.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:39 PM
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3. we are going to lose again
the 'me too" Pink Tutu crowd is still all over the media. Even Dr. Dean is in the "we can't leave now" chorus. The Base wants out of Iraq.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:43 PM
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4. BULLSHIT. WE lost because the REPUBLICANS CHEAT. They LIE, they CHEAT,
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 03:44 PM by radwriter0555
they steal elections and use our constitution to wipe their ASSES.

What we NEED is strong, heroic leaders like BARBARA BOXER to stand up a shout it to the rafters of the House and the Senate.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:47 PM
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5. Senator Boxer teamed with Congressman Conyers could win, big time.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:52 PM
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7. Three words: electronic voting machines.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 03:55 PM
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8. To make the voting fraud credible a candidate has to be close enough in
the polls.That is only possible when some of our base is disenfranchised through various means.And that is where the DLC Trojan Horses play a part as enablers of the Republican agenda.
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mpendragon Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 04:03 PM
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9. they have the money and they'll hit below the belt
They'll say anything to get elected and they have the money to get the word out. We try to appeal to the best of human nature and they prey on fear and use ignorance as a weapon.

How do you beat that?
- We could try to beat them at their own game but we'd risk becoming beholden to the people funding the vicious attacks. We'd also have to compromise our principles and harm the people and projects we want to protect.

- We could do more of what we've been doing for years but we could try to do it better. We could look at old successes and follow those patterns. I think Wes Clark is our best bet for that.

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