Kucinich is the only candidate who...

[Karmadillo]

http://neighborsforpeaceandjustice.org/KucinichIsTheOnly.htm

Only one candidate for President voted against the misnamed "Patriot Act."

Only one candidate plans to introduce legislation in Congress to repeal the "Patriot Act."

Only one candidate has declared without hesitation that he will vote against the Bush request for $87 billion in additional funds to continue the quagmire in Iraq.

Only one candidate has submitted a bill to Congress that would establish genuinely universal health coverage -- nonprofit national health insurance for all.

Only one candidate will withdraw from corporate trade deals like NAFTA and the WTO, and replace them with fair trade agreements that include labor and environmental protections.

Only one candidate has a plan to cut the bloated military budget by 15% ($60 billion annually) and invest those funds in universal child care.

Only one candidate sued George Bush to stop him from going to war in
Iraq without a Congressional Declaration of War.

Only one candidate led opposition in Congress to the War in Iraq.

Only one candidate has a plan to repeal Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and invest that money in a plan for universal public education, age 3-college.

Only one candidate has pledged to break up corporate monopolies in
agriculture, energy, media and other sectors that are strangling farmers, the environment and the public.

more...

[JohnKleeb]

1. I am here where is everyone else

This is great.

[rbnyc]

2. Here I am!

I'm walking with a cane now. Pretty soon I'll be strong enough to start giving some time away from home to the Kucinich campaign.

:toast:

[JohnKleeb]

6. how you holding up

I am very soon gonna volunteer. I am glad to have you in the same camp Rene. Hope you get recover fully. I think we have someone special in Kucinich.

[rbnyc]

9. I'm holding up with a cane! LOL

Thanks, I'm glad to be in the same camp with you as well. We've got a lot of work to do, but every bit of our effort helps to elevate our values, so there's no such thing as losing.

[JohnKleeb]

12. yep

Its the right fight for the right man.

[MuseRider]

14. Glad to see you!

and glad to hear you are doing better. Sorry to thread jack.

[JohnKleeb]

15. dont worry about it muse

[MuseRider]

4. Hi John!

I am here, but I am behind you, still responding to previous DK threads! I have recruited enough people here in my town to start a meet up. I am getting ready to find out what I need. I am really excited about this. Kucinich is a real Democrat (not that the others aren't, please don't flame me). You just know where you stand with him and I really like that.

[JohnKleeb]

7. yep

I am glad to see my comrades here tonight. BTW I aint a commie but I do at times call people comrade. lol glad to see you all here. We need a rallying point and this is it.

[Darranar]

16. Here am I!

Kucinich for President!

[sasquatch]

3. You got it right

He's the only democrat aside from Dean that has the balls to oppose Bush. I hope he get's the nomination.

[Fovea]

5. Yes

I am here. I think Dennis has the most important voice in the debate.
The true spiritual center of the Democratic Party.
Dennis is driving the Wellstone bus.

[JohnKleeb]

8. and I am about to literally hop on after being spirtually on the bus

Way to go Dennis.

[LWolf]

11. Did you listen to his postcard for peace?

You can hear some of what he had to say at Peace parties last Sunday:

http://postcards.audiogenerator.com/P001/P1127857.htm

[JohnKleeb]

13. I havent yet because my sound isnt working

Long story short I dont wanna talk about it.

[diamondsoul]

51. OMG, I sent a message back to the campaign

after I listened to it three times! I was in tears. I'm telling you we NEED Kucinich in the WH in 2005!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

10. Kucinich is the real dem/liberal/progressive that cares for WE THE PEOPLE

hey there you guys :grouphug: ...i missed the debates tonight :( and just got on and this is the first thread i have read...how did Dennis do?...

KUCINICH = WE THE PEOPLE

[MuseRider]

18. I think

the Dem debate is tomorrow night. Tonight was California. I think, unless I really screwed up because I missed it too!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

20. MuseRider.....i think you're right ...i just went off to read some other

threads and nothing about democratic debates, phew...thanks

[quaker bill]

17. Yea for Dennis.

He has been on the right side of many things. Of course, anytime you oppose GWB, that is the likely outcome....

Any vote against Bush is a vote for Justice and common sense. Yea for Dennis, keep up the good work!

[hedgetrimmer]

19. look for yourself......

http://www.thekooch.com/

[karlschneider]

21. Only candidate who...

can't get on the Magic Mountain ride? :evilgrin:

Look, in an idyllic world, DK would be a fine prez. I believe that because his position is the closest to my own.

But this is the real world and as much as it pains me to say it, he has less than a snowball's chance. Less, even. More like ZERO. Ain't gonna happen, no how no way.

Working up a sweat for someone you really like is no vice, it's admirable, but there has to be some point where we have to step back and look the grotesque face of reality eyeball to eyeball. Even in a FAIR election (a questionable proposition as things stand now) Bunnypants would beat him like a bad piece of meat. Them's the facts, folks.

It gives me no pleasure to pee on anyone's parade, I promise.
:eyes:

[hedgetrimmer]

23. holding back yourself from the magic mountain...one life, one chance...n/t

[revcarol]

24. Keep his ideas out there with some $$.

Keep his ideas out there for the good of the Democratic Party!!

Keep his ideas out there for the Democratic Party platform!!

Keep his ideas out there so the other Dem candidates will have to answer the hard questions!! SEND A FEW BUCKS.

Did anyone mention that he is the ONLY candidate who has spoken against privatization of government jobs?

And the only candidate who has advocated for repeal of the Taft-Hartley Act?

He's labor's guy, all right.

[MuseRider]

26. Now who

is being obstinate?

[JohnKleeb]

28. well

I think youre wrong. We dont know the facts, has DK ran against him in a presidential race before? nope we dont know whats gonna happen. BTW I find it interesting that people bring up his height so often, hes a inch bigger than my uncle, and he is bigger than james madison was I mean. I think you need just to think positive.

[directinfection]

31. so..

would you give up right now if republicans told democrats they didn't have a chance in 2004? Its called the good fight. It aint over till its over

[JohnKleeb]

32. it is the good fight you are right

[FDRrocks]

34. Give him your vote in the primary then...

Anyone but Bush? Someone has to get elected. In this economically crappy age... I think Dennis would fare quite well. People of all ilks are disturbed by this.

We can elect this man. He can awaken the non-voting liberal majority. And we can usher in a new progressive era.

Anything less is defeatist. The RW gives us ample ammo to use against themselves, they just trust we will not use it.

[LWolf]

40. Thems not facts.

Thems your opinion, and should be presented as so.

Thankfully, there are plenty of voters out there who don't share that opinion.

[Mairead]

43. Yes, and the time to take a breather will be after the election

until then, we're in with a good chance. And we'd have all the more chance with you onboard, so how about it?

Don't compromise yourself. You're all you've got.

[JVS]

22. OK, I'm convinced. I hereby announce my support for Kucinich!

I will vote for him in the primary with only two possible exceptions.
1. it is a close race between Lieberman and someone else
2. it is a close race between Clark and someone else
in those two cases the someone else might get my vote. Barring that I will definitely vote for Kucinich in the primary.

[JohnKleeb]

25. what if its a close race between Kucinich and someone

btw glad to have you on board, go steelers and Kucinich.

[JVS]

27. Well then it is Kucinich all the way!

and that would be fine!
Go Kucinich!
Go Steelers!

[JohnKleeb]

29. yay

glad to have you. Now on to the super bowl and to the white house.

[FDRrocks]

33. Cool as hell!

Due to FDR, we canoot easily go into a real depression. But the momentum the Bush administration has given, going from a 200mil+ surplus to a 600mil+ dept, gives us liberals alot of sway.

This man can change the course of the world. I'll be vocal, and I have registered Democrat to give him my primary vote.

Go Dennis!

[Mairead]

59. Good on yer! Well said.

But send him money today, too. The end of the quarter is looming.

[cosmicdot]

30. Postcard for Peace from Congressman Dennis Kucinich

http://postcards.AudioGenerator.com/P001/P1127857.htm

An Audio Postcard For You
From Dennis Kucinich


Thank you to all House Party participants!

Through the power of the human heart we have the power to free ourselves.

Each of us across this nation has an opportunity to connect and create new conditions suitable for peace.

It is our campaign that offers hope that we can construct a durable peace, based on a committment to a world as one.

[stickdog]

35. GO DENNIS GO!!!

To dream the impossible dream,
to fight the unbeatable foe,
to bear with unbearable sorrow,
to run where the brave dare not go...

To right the unrightable wrong,
to love pure and chaste from afar,
to try when your arms are too weary
to reach the unreachable star!

This is my quest --
to follow that star
no matter how hopeless,
no matter how far --
To fight for the right
without question or pause,
to be willing to march into hell
for a heavenly cause!

[JohnKleeb]

38. what are you impling?

and you all complain about bashing of your guy
excuse me while I sigh
I dont bash your guy, I have at the very worst joked around and given my misgivings. :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: I dont get what you are getting at stick. I am not just gonna fall in line with someone because they are popular at the moment, I am gonna support who I support because they have a vision like mine, someone who I can like, and etc. I am well used to this by now so maybe I shouldnt care but its annoying and maybe I shouldnt let it get to me.

[Karmadillo]

47. Good post, John. It's a shame a reliable DUer like stickdog would resort

to painting Kucinich as unelectable. We don't know who's electable and who's not until the votes are counted (if they're counted, not always a sure thing these days). Remember how unelectable Paul Wellstone was before the Senate election? Remember how electable he was afterwards?

Proof? Look at candidate stickdog supports. It wasn't all that long ago that Dean was unelectable. Funny how things can change.

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/219/oped/_Unelectable_frontrunner_+.shtml

'Unelectable' frontrunner?

A CANDIDATE'S ''electability'' used to be decided on election day. Now, it is the purview of political consultants and media commentators who rule on it months before anyone actually casts a vote. That makes it the next big test Howard Dean must pass -- and he knows it. As Steve Grossman, former head of the Democratic National Committee and now co-chair of the Dean presidential campaign, describes it, Dean's opponents are working to portray him ''as a wacked-out liberal. They are trying to create the image of a guy who is unelectable.''

The Dean campaign is well aware of the risk of being painted the wrong -- or left -- way. ''Howard Dean is going to have to do everything he can to define who he is and what he stands for before other people do it in an inaccurate and hostile way,'' says Grossman.

In the meantime, Grossman cites three specific examples of what he views as an orchestrated effort by Democrats to paint Dean, a fellow Democrat, as ''unelectable'':

Repeated warnings by the Democratic Leadership Council, a so-called moderate group of Democrats who helped elect Bill Clinton to the White House in 1992, that the party cannot afford to present itself as ''too far left.'' The shots at Dean, comments Grossman, ''have been excessively harsh.'' But ''it has had no impact on our campaign. It has enhanced Howard's appeal.''

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On edit: Added "more" at bottom of Boston Globe excerpt.

[stickdog]

48. In NH, where they are paying attention to the race

Dean: Favorable - 66%, Unfavorable - 9%
Kucinich: Favorable - 12%, Unfavorable - 18%

Dean: almost 30%
Kucinich: almost 2%

So, something obviously isn't working for Dennis in NH.

Can you imagine what this might be?

Note that the numbers aren't much better in Iowa, either.

[Karmadillo]

50. You got me. I agree that from now on all candidates who fail to earn

substantial support several months before the actual date of an election should drop out. See ya' Graham and Edwards. Your NH numbers suck.

Seriously, no one would argue Kucinich doesn't face an uphill fight. So would any candidate whose position on crucial issues is so threatening to established power. Money and free media coverage are inevitably hard to come by. To some degree (not completely), this explains the disparity between the NH numbers you site.

National elections in the US aren't limited, at least not yet, to centrists and right wingers. If Kucinich can organize and figure out ways to make his positions known to voters, he will increase his support and his "unelectability" quotient will decrease. The difficulties he faces in successfully doing this, difficulties any seriously left of center candidate would face, hardly argue he not even try.

[revcarol]

53. He only opened his campaign office there last week...

a regular presence there will increase his visibilty and press, so expect some change.

And how many NH jobs were lost to Canada under NAFTA?

[Mairead]

58. You mean Dean's lead is no bigger than that for 2 years' full-time effort?

And in a neighboring state? Dennis hasn't been at it 9 months, yet. AND he has a day job that he's taking scrupulous care of.

Doesn't sound too good for Dean.

[JohnKleeb]

60. everything apparently is different if its Dean I guess

I know that about Wellstone. I dont deny this will be an easy fight for the nomination but it is possible. I do not like this and this is what makes me bitter and aggrevated.

[Desertrose]

36. We need to get Dennis some PRESS!

what is with the damn media?

Dennis met the Dalai Lama a day or so ago....where's the stories on that? All I saw was Sharpton made the DL wait...and "DK was there"...but it was only about Sharpton! For crying out loud...why won't they show Dennis???

Could it be because he tells the truth and speaks it loud & clear?? How can they spin the truth for a good soundbyte?? Obviously they have been out of practice on that for the past few years!!!

Peace
DR

[JohnKleeb]

37. see what the media does DR

I am just finding that out now.

[stickdog]

49. Could it be because he tells the truth and speaks it loud & clear??

We have a winner!

[minkyboodle]

39. Have at em Dennis

Just made a contribution today. I find myself reveling in a Dem that I can support 100% its been awhile.
Scott

[JNelson6563]

41. Kucinich is the only candidate who

can be as shrill as a shrew who needs taming. Sorry but it's true and I wish it weren't. It really harms his credibility as a statesman and prevents folks from hearing his message which, IMO, should be heard.

Julie

[Mairead]

45. Then give him some money, Julie

The more money he gets, the more his policies will get press.

Do we want an election, or an auction?

[MuseRider]

52. Such a sad thing

to say but you are right. God how I hate that. It IS all about the money, policies be damned. I am sending another donation today and getting ready to start Meet Ups in my town. It has been very hard to find anyone around here who even knows about him but I have been cultivating my friends and hopefully we can get something out. Willie is coming to town, should be a big draw so I hope to be up and ready before that concert.

[no name no slogan]

56. Have you actually heard him speak?

Julie, other than the debates, have you actually seen Dennis speak? He's hardly "shrill", as you suggest. He's a great speaker, and conversationalist, and talks directly to people. He and Wellstone are the the only two politicians I've known who can speak like this and connect with people.

If you're going to critique a candidate, do it on the important stuff, like the issues. Otherwise you compromise your own credibility.

[arwalden]

42. ... whose name I cannot pronounce.

:-)

[DealsGapRider]

44. ...will lose 49 states to Bush. Or maybe all 50.

Two words: HOWARD DEAN

[Mairead]

46. Nice that you have an opinion

Now how about ponying up some money for Dennis?

[no name no slogan]

57. Check the records first...

Which has defeated more Republican opponents in heavily Republican districts?

Which candidate has the platform that most Democrats support?

Which candidate, after the NH debates, has the largest support among Hispanic voters?

Which candidate has voted not only against the war in Iraq, but also against the so-called "Patriot Act"?

I'll give you a hint: it ain't Howard Dean.

:)

[Lydia Leftcoast]

54. DK is the only candidate who

is as bold on the left as the Reaganites were on the right.

[goodhue]

55. Dennis rocks

Only one candidate speaks truth to power and scares the establishment.