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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 03:55 AM
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Mission accomplished': Bush brag or Demo fib?
Mission accomplished': Bush brag or Demo fib?
Washington Whispers 09/29/03
By Paul Bedard

After weeks of Democratic assaults that President Bush was a nitwit for declaring "mission accomplished" in Iraq during his May 1 landing and victory speech on the USS Abraham Lincoln, the White House is bidding to set the story straight. The issue should be a simple one: Bush never uttered those words. "The president," argues communications boss Dan Bartlett, "said exactly the opposite: The mission continues." But Bush stood under a banner declaring "mission accomplished." Why? Bartlett says that the Lincoln's captain had the banner made up to thank his crew for the longest-ever carrier tour, not to declare the war over. "It is something the troops are really proud of," says Bartlett. "Of course they can hang the banner." But the picture was all the Demos needed. "On TV," he says, "they never play the bite of the president, they just show the image with the banner." Democratic polls show that the public buys their spin, which doesn't really surprise Bartlett. "Look, perception becomes reality," he says. "But the facts don't back it up."

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Uroboros Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:04 AM
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1. Bullsh*t!
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 04:05 AM by Uroboros
If this was true (that they had nothing to do with the banner) they would have said this MONTHS ago. But they didn't because the whole "mission accomplished" p.r. stunt suited their needs. Now that more soldiers have died after the event; they have to cover their asses.

I mean come on! How many months has it been since that event? And NOW they feel the need to clarify the whole affair? Probably took them this long to come up with an excuse the sheeple might swallow.

What's next? Was it the Lincoln's captain idea to dress the chimp up in the flight suit and stuff a sock down his pants as well?
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:14 AM
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6. by the way
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 04:15 AM by radfringe
if the crew created and put up the sign all on their own - how did they get a professionally produced enormous banner when they were at sea?
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Uroboros Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:48 AM
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10. Exactly!
That's not just some bed sheet strung across the towers with painted words on it. It's a professional sign, probably printed on vinyl (one of the things we do at my job). Didn't realize aircraft carriers had a professional print-house on board.

We're suppose to believe that the administration delayed the return home for this carrier, made sure it was facing the ocean so that it would appear to be way off shore, and had the chimp play fighter pilot JUST so they could tell us "the mission continues".

Yeah Right

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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:58 AM
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11. You are absolutely right.
Look at the size and professional design of that sign, (picture of it in Post Four). It's not simple block letters on sewn together white sheets, is it? Too bad we don't have any professional journalists/reporters in this country to track down and interview shipboard personnel to verify that this sign could not possibly have been created aboard ship, but was brought in by the White House/DOD for the occasion.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:54 AM
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25. Or to turn the carrier so that the skyline of San Diego
wasn't in the background? :eyes:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:04 AM
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2. Ah we are chaniging the story
by the way, want to bet that the Captain can kiss his career
good bye?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:05 AM
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3. oh wow
what a beautiful quote. Great line to open a book with:

"Look, perception becomes reality, but the facts don't back it up."
- Dan Bartlett, White House Communications Director
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:24 AM
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27. There's poetry in it!
"Look, perception becomes reality, but the facts don't back it up."
- Dan Bartlett, White House Communications Director

Nobody could make this stuff up.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:08 AM
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4. Why didn't the White House clear this up before?
Or did they just devise the perfect cover lie?

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:02 AM
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13. Sorry, I just had to post this photo
Don't want to snicker all by myself:



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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:09 AM
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5. Wasn't the actual Bush "Mission Accomplished" quote removed...
...from the White House web site?

Don

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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:16 AM
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7. It was "modified" to more "accurately reflect facts on the ground"...
...why must you always assign ulterior motives to everything this fraudulent criminal administration does?
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:24 AM
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8. bush backdrops
...and of course it's atypical for bush to speak in front of some words that his propagandists want to impress upon the viewer's mind. That hardly ever happens.

Made in America. Made in America. Made in America.


Cher
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 04:25 AM
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9. One piece of evidence that might clarify this:
If the captain of the Lincoln had the banner made to celebrate the longest-ever carrier tour, you'd think it would have been displayed when the Lincoln was actually finally allowed to complete its mission, at the dock in San Diego after being held up for 24 hours by Shrub's flight-suit pantomime.

Sailors from the Lincoln and their families should be able to confirm if the banner was still flying to celebrate their mission when it docked.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:49 AM
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22. Are there any
news photos of the Lincoln docking at San D.? If so, is the banner still there? This is easy to verify, anyway. Who put the banner up? When was it put up? Where did the banner came from? When was it delivered to the ship?

This isn't a funny, throw away news item. This could actually be a public "smoking gun". If they will lie about something as minor as this, what wouldn't they lie about?
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:00 AM
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12. Idiots
If my son came to me with such nonsense he would receive a grounding as well as one of my " no one likes a weasel " lectures. How can anyone wish to be associated with such a slimy group?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 05:38 AM
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14. neither. bush lie. liar liar liar liar liar liar liar!
they aren't fooling anyone anymore. they're just pissing in the wind. and changing their pants a lot.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 06:17 AM
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15. Uh, everything, down to the angle of the light was planned by the Rove&co
You'd think they'd notice the "damaging" backdrop "the captain" gone and done...
"but captin...she canna do it...
Beam me up, Scotty!





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no one in particular Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:05 AM
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16. He said "Mission Accomplished" to the troops in Qatar. 6/5/03
A link to the CNN story - Bush to troops in Qatar: "Mission accomplished"


Let's dig up more to throw it back in their faces.

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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 07:43 AM
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17. Uh....but...but
What the "resident" really meant was that the "mission" was accomplished. Not that the "Mission was accomplished." See the difference? Okay. Move along. Nothing to see here.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:36 AM
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21. Good catch!
nt
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:07 AM
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18. I just don't "get" this.
It's one thing to lie about what you are going to do, or to lie about what your intentions were, but to outright lie about an event that can easily be proven is nuts.

What is going on here? Have they so totally stepped through the looking glass that they are no longer able to distinquish what the pupblic will bear? This is one of the scariest episodes in this whole terrifying administration. If they are to this point, then I think the idea of postponing the '04 elections or outrageously tampering with the voting results is no longer a "tinfoil hat" proposition. This isn't funny, it's scary.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:34 AM
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20. The whore media will back them up 100%
Even though they published the original Mission Accomplished blather.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:17 AM
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19. I SAW IT WITH MY OWN TWO EYES
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS! FOUR!

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:52 AM
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23. Oh Good Grief
:eyes: :argh:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 08:53 AM
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24. Why would this story just be "reported" as if it were
a story in and of itself? A story that says "person A says 'black', while person B says 'white'", isn't a story. Who is lying and why - that's the story. But this "reporter" just leaves it at that! Why wouldn't he take the next, logical step and say, "person A is lying"?
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 09:07 AM
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26. Oh PLEASE
Rove is a freaking genius! He even has DUers discussing whether or not that banner was part of the Carrier photo-op or whehter it was put there by the Captain. Come on people! Every detail of that stunt was carefuly controled. They put the "Mission Accomplished" banner there to convey the message that the US "mission" in Iraq was a success. Every detail of what we saw on TV from the carrier was carefuly planned, right down to where individual sailors stood so that their brightly colored jerseys would be in the right pattern.
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