Gov. Bush touts Christian-based program for schools

[AnnInLa]

Gov. Bush touts Christian-based program for schools

By Dara Kam

Special to The Palm Beach Post

Wednesday, July 06, 2005

TALLAHASSEE — Just before Father's Day, Gov. Jeb Bush announced that he wanted every public school in Florida to host a Christian-based program designed to increase fathers' participation in their children's lives. The program, All Pro Dad, combines a biblical foundation with the draw of popular professional athletes to promote the belief that "the father is the head of the household" and that men should rely on God to help them be better parents and keep their marriages intact. It also encourages Bible reading.

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"This is a really great program," Bush said at a news conference last month, though he did not make any reference to the project's Christian foundation. "The response of this program has been a success, and I hope it expands throughout the entire state to every school in every school district."

But critics say the program, which has a direct link on the Florida Department of Education Web site, clearly has Christian overtones and is part of a national effort by evangelicals who view public schools as recruiting fields.

An official state Web site should not be linked to such an organization, said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Lynn said the link violates the First Amendment, which prohibits government from establishing a state religion and at the same time prohibits government from interfering with religious practices. "This has a very clear religious message, so that's wrong and that should be stopped immediately," Lynn said from his office in Washington. "This is an overtly fundamentalist Christian worldview that's being promoted."

more at http://www.palmbeachpost.com/state/content/state/epaper...

[BayCityProgressive]

1. He is even worse than George.

[Bluebear]

2. "This is an overtly fundamentalist Christian worldview...."

Sad to say, watch him get his wish.

[gollygee]

3. I will not send my child to public schools if they pull garbage like this

and this kind of thing is why liberals are starting to homeschool more and more. Right-wing propoganda being spewed out to our children when we aren't there to see and hear what's happening.

[FreedomAngel82]

11. Yep

And here I thought schools were public! :sarcasm:

[Maestro]

4. The Courts have established "Lemon" tests for religion in schools

It stems from the 1971 Lemon v. Kurtzman decision. There are three tests. If the practice in question doesn't pass all three, it is unconstitutional.

1. The purpose of the challenged practice or law must be secular as opposed to sectarian.

2. The primary effect of the law or practice must be one that neither advances nor inhibits religion and thus does not impair the practice of one's religious beliefs.

3. The law or practice must not involve excessive entanglement between state and church.

[dave502d]

5. You know,all the Bushes Sons our Crooks.n/t

[Cha]

6. Devious jeeby is a Hypocrite..he doesn't

even believe in the teachings of Christ..why doesn't someone point that out?????????

[Maestro]

7. Self Delete

Posted in wrong thread.

[napi21]

8. Has anyone ever asked Jeb a biblical question?

ya know, I'm a christian too! I happen to be a Catholic and have been for 61 years. Since Jeb claims to read the bible all the time, he should be pretty familiar with everything in in...you'd think.

Has anyone ever asked him any direct biblical questions? Is he promoting all this bible reading and Evangelical belief stuff but it's all a facad?

[Synnical]

9. Hmm, link doesn't work n/t

[Synnical]

13. Good link

http://tinyurl.com/8lqwl

[friesianrider]

10. What a psycho...

Sounds like Jebbie is gearing up for 2008 if you ask me.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. Probably

Doing some last minute spiritual things so he can appear to be Christian. :eyes:

[Synnical]

14. All Pro Dad!!

Gals and guys, you just have to read this nonsense at the All Pro Dad site. Remember the Promise Keepers? Exactly the same type of nonsense - apparently now Jeb Bush's forte. (BTW - the rumours I hear in Florida as to why Jeb won't run for Prez is because his wife wife will not allow it! Hmmm.) . And a direct link to the Florida Dept. of Education? GRRR. Stereo typical attitude toward women, about 200 years ago!

http://www.allprodad.com/savingyourmarriage.asp

Allow me to parse some comments, I was truly breathless (and not in a good way) today when I read this:

From the Save Your Marriage link - directed toward men from an Education Site???

-You haven't had sex, at least the way it's supposed to be, in ages.

-You find yourself wishing you were with other women.

-Divorce lawyers plaster their billboards all over the highway. Many television shows trivialize marriage and commitment. Friends are nudging you to put away *the hag* and get on with your life.

-Don’t expect her to necessarily start apologizing for her mistakes right away. Tell her you're committed to her and will do whatever is necessary to get things right. Tell her you love her. This can be very hard if you don't feel like loving her at all.

- You may think somehow that compassion gene skipped your wife, but *most of them have it in there somewhere*. It's just been buried under a mountain of resentment.

-Women are wired to be romantic. Men are wired to be sexual.

- Tell her she's beautiful. Talk about some fun things you can do together. Tell her she's beautiful. Share some good memories. Tell her she's beautiful. Get the point? You don't have to pretend problems aren't there in the marriage. You just have to put yourself in the right position to address those problems.

- *Don’t hammer her and tell her she's dumb about money and stinks at driving*.

-After you've admitted your shortcomings, been romantic, and tackled problems, it's time to spend more time together. And it *won't be so hard* because you will actually enjoy it now.


Criminey, could these christians be any more condescending toward women? We just just need to be coddled, don't cha know, since we spend too much money and don't drive well, but oh yeah, we're compassionate, somewhere deep down inside of us.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. How disgusting!

These people are telling these husbands to tell their wives things they want to hear. <Tell her you love her. This can be very hard if you don't feel like loving her at all.> So they'd rather live in a loveless marriage? I wouldn't want someone lying to me about that. I've had my fair share of liars and all that in my life and I want someone who is HONESTLY committed to me. And here, as a Christian, I'm to not lie. Hmm seems like these people don't know their Ten Commandments and yet they want them all over the place and here they don't follow them and this is a CHRISTIAN group?!

[Solly Mack]

15. Wait OFM.The fundies view schools as recruiting fields but the asswipes

have the fucking nerve to rant about public schools being about "liberal indoctrination"?

Fuck them all.

[drhilarius]

17. We need more Christian, faith based education...

so we can get more stories like these:

<http://www.cbc.ca/cp/business/050630/b0630102.html>

"Industry experts say Ontarians are easier and cheaper to train - helping make it more cost-efficient to train workers when the new Woodstock plant opens in 2008, 40 kilometres away from its skilled workforce in Cambridge.

'The level of the workforce in general is so high that the training program you need for people, even for people who have not worked in a Toyota plant before, is minimal compared to what you have to go through in the southeastern United States,' said Gerry Fedchun, president of the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, whose members will see increased business with the new plant."

and...

"He said Nissan and Honda have encountered difficulties getting new plants up to full production in recent years in Mississippi and Alabama due to an untrained - and often illiterate - workforce. In Alabama, trainers had to use "pictorials" to teach some illiterate workers how to use high-tech plant equipment.

'The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario,' Fedchun said."

So getting in more bible stuff and creationism can only help things, right?