I wonder how Chirac is feeling today.

[im10ashus]

Given his comments about British cuisine, he must feel a little like a heel today. Any comments from him?

[BurtWorm]

1. Taller than Bush.

[beam me up scottie]

3. Exactly.

Didn't take very long for this administration to exploit the attacks.

[Clark2008]

2. Why would he feel like a heel?

Sure, it's horrible that something happened in London, but that still doesn't negate their lousy cuisine. I mean, eel pie? Come on!

[trumad]

5. LOL

I've often said that if you really want to enjoy the food in France, visit England first.

[im10ashus]

6. LOL!

Good point. I've never eaten eel pie. Ick!

[RaleighNCDUer]

13. I thought 'British cuisine' was an oxymoron.

(But I really do like fish n chips with a pint of half and half.)

[stopbush]

17. If he feels like a heel, he should visit the UK

where he can order blackened heel in clotted cream as a desert.

Personally, I feel like having quail for lunch, but since I'm not in France, I'll probably settle for a salad.

:)

[julianer]

30. Mmmmm,, eel pie

[im10ashus]

31. Ick.

All I can think of when I hear the word "eel" is The Tin Drum by Gunter Grass. Too vivid.

[Kraklen]

4. He probably feels great for protecting his countrymen...

by not getting them involved in Iraq.

[theHandpuppet]

7. What a bizarre speculation

Why the hell should Chirac feel like a heel for having made a comment about British cuisine because some terrorists bombed their subway system today? Talk about apples and oranges -- this is the kind of comment which sounds like something straight out of freeperville and their irrational hatred of the French.

[im10ashus]

8. Speaking of bizzare speculation.

Me a freeper? I don't think so. Not in a million life times.

[ComerPerro]

9. You're both right.

I mean, there is no reason Chriac should feel remorse or anything like that.

But maybe the OP wasn't attacking him or saying he should.

It could just be speculation. Wondering how Chriac feels, if this is something on his mind or if it hasn't even occured to him.

[im10ashus]

10. Thank you!

I am not saying the cuisine doesn't suck or he was wrong in saying so. Just wondering how he feels today is all. Don't flame me. I didn't wear flame-retardant material today. :-)

[ComerPerro]

11. You might want to invest in some.

It's good to have here.

[im10ashus]

12. Good advice.

I HATE it when someone calls me the F word. It makes my skin crawl. You are a gem for being kind.

[theHandpuppet]

19. Then consider before you post

You authored an entire thread on this forum which by some convoluted logic tied Chirac's comments about British cuisine to the subway bombings in London. Where the hell did that come from, anyway, if not from the blue? If you don't want to be mistaken for a freeper, don't post like one.

[im10ashus]

21. NEVER did I tie it to the bombings.

Stop starting trouble, and stop assuming things. It would be like me calling someone's friend a loser and then they died. Would I still consider them a loser? Maybe. Would I feel bad I did it? Most definitely. Quit looking at everything in B&W and if you don't like my thread, don't fucking respond. Got it? Enough said.

[theHandpuppet]

22. You authored this thread...

... which smacks of the kind of irrational French-bashing I would expect from Faux News or Hate Radio.

Tell me, should George W. Bush feel badly today because his lies and an illegal war waged against Iraq fostered even more hatred and terrorism, real actions which might be directly related to the terrorists attacks today? Should George, perhaps, feel like the real heel here?

Why the hell should Chirac feel badly for the terrorist attacks today because he made some stupid comment about British cuisine? If you want a real heel look closer to home -- like Pennsylvania Ave.

[im10ashus]

24. Don't preach to me, Handpuppet!

The LAST thing I would do is place "blame" on Chirac. His comments were NOT just about cuisine, it was about Brits in general. Being of British stock, I feel insulted, and not about the cuisine (which does suck). STOP making this a big fucking issue. I don't need a lesson in etiquette and I DON'T need YOU to tell me what I can and cannot post. If I felt it was insensitive or missed the mark then I would recant. It was a general question, not an assumption that he was wrong. Now fuck the hell off.

[theHandpuppet]

33. I'm also of British stock

So what?

This post and at least one you posted below belie your innocence about the true intent of this "speculative" thread. If you're pissed about Chirac or something he said about British culture or cuisine, that's one thing. But to use the terrorist bombings as a segue to do a little French-bashing, that's really the kind of thing I would NOT expect here.

So you'd like me to "fuck the hell off"? Would you like some Freedom Fries with that?

[im10ashus]

35. LMAO!

Whatever. You obviously have some sort of hard-on for my thread. Freedom fries? How pathetic.

[Tomee450]

14. Was Chirac wrong?

I've always heard that British cuisine was pretty bad.

[cssmall]

15. I am waiting for. . .

"Didja see that Chirac? He didnt 'pologize right 'way for 'em comments. French Surrenderist sumabitch pro'ly let'em through the Chunnel."

Fucking horrific dolts in America would believe it. Watch Hannity tonight and you'll hear it. Promise!

[stopbush]

16. Under bushco, the chances of horrors happening on a daily

basis are a reality.

If we all held our tongues for fear of what might happen tomorrow, the world would be a very quiet place, especially when you can rest assured that something horrible will happen on a daily basis.

Bad Brit food is a given, like the sun rising in the morning. I wouldn't expect Chirac to opine that the sun won't rise tomorrow. Why should anyone feel remorse that expressed a given about Brit food?

[KelleyKramer]

18. Probably still glad he didnt buy the WMD lie

Those nasty French were not stupid enough to believe the lie about Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Those idiots in France wouldnt let their children die looking for non-existent WMD's

Well I guess we showed them didnt we?!

Want some Freedom Fries?

Ooops, just remembered that the Repub congressman who sponsored that bill has now called for an Iraq withdrawal timetable.

[CBHagman]

20. The Guardian newspaper says he was at Blair's side...

...when Blair read the statement about G-8 solidarity in the face of the attacks. I haven't read a statement from Chirac himself.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g8/story/0,,1523092,00.html

[NoPasaran]

37. French reaction

Le président Jacques Chirac a exprimé, jeudi matin, au premier ministre britannique, Tony Blair, en séance au G8 de Gleneagles, toute son "horreur" et "la totale solidarité de la France" après la série d'explosions qui ont frappé Londres, a rapporté le porte-parole de la présidence.

De son côté, le premier ministre, Dominique de Villepin, a annoncé le relèvement du plan Vigipirate au niveau rouge après les explosions survenues dans la matinée. Le plan Vigipirate compte quatre phases correspondant à quatre couleurs : jaune, orange, rouge et écarlate. Le premier ministre a exprimé, dans une déclaration à Matignon, sa "solidarité la plus profonde", son "amitié" et son "soutien à tout le peuple britannique, et en particulier aux habitants de la ville de Londres"."C'est un drame pour la Grande-Bretagne, pour l'Europe toute entière, qui avait déjà été frappée à Madrid en mars 2004", a-t-il dit. Outre le ministre de l'intérieur, Nicolas Sarkozy, M. de Villepin a reçu ses ministres de la défense, Michèle Alliot-Marie, et des affaires étrangères, Philippe Douste-Blazy.

Le Sénat français a suspendu sa séance jeudi par respect après la série d'explosions qui a touché Londres.

"TOUS LONDONIENS"

Le maire de Paris, Bertrand Delanoë, a déclaré que "nous sommes tous, en cet instant, londoniens", jeudi au Bourget. De son côté, François Hollande, premier secrétaire du PS, a exprimé la "totale solidarité" de son parti avec les Britanniques, en ajoutant que les attentats survenus à Londres "rappellent que nous sommes tous concernés par le fléau du terrorisme". "Je tiens, au nom du Parti socialiste, à exprimer notre forte émotion et notre consternation face aux attentats horribles qui viennent d'être perpétrés à Londres ce matin, et qui frappent une nouvelle fois des lieux fréquentés par des populations de toutes conditions et de toutes origines", a indiqué François Hollande dans un communiqué. Le numéro un du PS a ajouté que "sur le plan intérieur, (...) le PS soutiendra toute action visant à protéger nos concitoyens contre les menaces terroristes dans le respect du droit".

-plus-

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/articleinteractif/0,41-0@2-3214,49-670354@45-806@51-641311,0.html

[im10ashus]

38. Tres bien et Merci! n/t

[AlCzervik]

23. i'm going to guess---horrified.

[K-W]

25. Huh? How exactly do you connect a crack about british food to this?

I would hope Chirac isnt prone to feel bad about something he shouldnt feel bad about.

Since when is making a cliche joke about a country before a terrorist attack you had no idea would happen something to feel guilty about?

[im10ashus]

26. It wasn't just about food.

He was hateful in general to the Brits.

[K-W]

28. Hateful? ... right.

And even if he did hate england, what on earth does that have to do with this attack, it is a completely bogus link.

I hate Bush if I hate anyone and if he got hit by a car tommarow I wouldnt feel guilty.

[julianer]

32. Can I just say that

the reason Chirac was making snide remarks about us Brits is that he is in a very tenuous position politically in France.

He is merely playing to the extreme right wing and Le Pen's fascists. If he can consolidate the right around his party they may be able to beat a badly split left at the next elections.

If he can't there is an outside possibility that the far right and the far left could form the two biggest factions with both centre groups shrinking. Potentially a Besancenot v Le Pen presidential run-off? Very interesting indeed.

[K-W]

39. mispost, ignore

[BelgianMadCow]

27. Well, he gave a press conference from Scotland

but CNN cut away as he was explaining the need to continue the work at hand regarding poverty, to do some more "Terra! Terra"

He started out offering sympathy and solidarity.
He didn't mention "must stay the course on them terraist, to show our resolve to not take away our freedom who is on the march".

He spoke very slowly like he always does and which I find kinda annoying.

I really do wonder how he feels, but I don't think guilt is part of his feelings.

I am also not sure the reasons some countries didn't support the Iraq war were the right ones...

The only ones I trust to be right on the war, for the right reasons, are the millions of people who marched against it.

[im10ashus]

29. "I really do wonder how he feels"

Finally! A voice of reason. I was only wondering how he felt and suddenly I am considered a, well, I won't say it.

[BelgianMadCow]

34. Well, I have to agree your OP can easily be misconstrued as misplaced

but I also find logic in the analogy in your post #21. I do think your hurt feelings clouded your judgment a little so as to pose a "coloured" question.

As a European, I feel things like "freedom fries" or the "chocolate summit" are very insulting.

So I felt insulted when even Randi Rhodes bashed the French, and can understand why you felt insulted by Chirac and why some posters found your question unappropriate.

I know that DU can be a paranoid place and you have to be ready for heated discussion. To be honest I don't think you're a .. well, you know :-)

Don't care too much, just let it sink :-)

PS: why I'm curious about Chirac's feelings is not in light of his remarks about the cuisine etc, but because I do think he's got to have mixed emotions when shit like this happens. No one in their right mind thinks terrorism (if that's what it is!) is OK, but he's got to have a certain "they had it coming and I told them so" feeling.

[im10ashus]

36. You are truly a blessing.

I am not one to start these hate-threads and believe you me, I wouldn't have if I thought it was insensitive, which I don't. Nice to know some people can see the forest through the trees. I will eat my freedom fries with my Beaujolais. :-)