"Terrorism should be #1"

[Must_B_Free]

"The attack works to our advantage"

what can you say to that?

jeez it just seems to reveal a perfect motive for the west to do this themselves.

bye bye global warming, bye bye Africa...

could this be any less transparent???

[rosalux]

1. transparent to me, too

The New York Times reports:
"The bombings in London on Thursday knocked the meeting of major industrial nations off its carefully scripted focus on global warming and African poverty and turned it into a forum for President Bush and other world leaders to pledge unity in confronting terrorism."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/08/international/europe/08summit.html?hp&ex=1120881600&en=33a7f22c16843614&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[The Magistrate]

2. Let Us Be Clear, Sir

Are you stating the bombings in London were carried out by present administration here in the United States?

[Must_B_Free]

3. Not at all

They are politicians, they don't even have the skills. Plus their whereabouts are known, they could never escape attention for long enough to carry this out themselves.

[The Magistrate]

5. Then, Sir, Who Contrived This, In Your View?

[Must_B_Free]

6. Whoever contrived this

was not in my field of vision at the time.

[The Magistrate]

7. Then What, Sir

Becomes of your "jeez it just seems to reveal a perfect motive for the west to do this themselves."?

What, then, do you suppose those words of your's to mean?

[Must_B_Free]

8. I don;t need to suppose

I wrote them.

To finally answer your question, the first reply to my post was a more articulate restatement of my observation.

The bombing, was noted by an anchor on Fox news (to paraphrase) "to be helpful to us be reestablishing terrorism as the #1 issue instead of Global Warming and Aid to Africa."

Thus, as we can note countless times, an sensational event diverts attention back to the interests that Bush represents. Just another "lucky break" I suppose...

[The Magistrate]

9. Then You Do Not, Sir

Subscribe to the view that to have benefitted from a thing makes it certain, or likely, that you contrived it?

What excites my curiousity is your statement that there was a motive for the West to do this to themselves, which suggests a view that this motive was acted on, and produced the event that had these "beneficial" effects. Indeed, it seemed the clearest meaning that was what you were suggesting had occured.

But apparently, now, that is not what you mean?

[Must_B_Free]

10. certain and likely are two different things.

certainly certain is out of the question.

likely is butressed by the history of events which prop up bush and push his financiers agendas. Let's list some more media events that were fortunate for Bush

911 - defined his identity as a war president, skyrocketing his sinking ratings. allowed the published agenda of warin Iraq to proceed, enriching his donors in the process.

bin laden video, before 2004 election - stole the thunder from the news damaging Bush that our troops were being killed with looted explosives that we failed to secure and allowed to be stolen. It was later revealed that the video was held for several weeks to be released when it was.

nick berg beheading - established a reason to pay back those who opposed us in Iraq

terror cell discovered in Lodi - preceeded debate over renewing the Patriot Act.

just a few - there are many others. The almagamation of many might suggest a pattern, a modus operandi. This appears to be a method by which an agenda is "sold".

...

If a guy has 75 consecutive wives and each died by falling down the stairs, at what point do we begin to wonder of they were pushed?

[The Magistrate]

17. This Is Vapor, Sir

If you wish to be taken as making a serious statement, you must state how these events are contrived. For events like the trumped-up charges pressed by a political police agaiethinst some people really guilty of no more than mopery with intent to loiter, it is easy to suggest a means. For events like bombing the mass transit of an allied capital, or running passenger jets into signifigant buildings in one's own financial and political capitals, you would find it so difficult to do as to be indistiguishable from an impossibility.

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[Must_B_Free]

12. It's OK

That's a Mark Twain routine The Magistrate does. It's very annoying, but he enjoys it, so, what the hay.

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[Must_B_Free]

16. yeah, but he makes you better

he forces you to back up a point that you will be able to sell outside of the groupthink of this board. Either that or you didn't have anything to begin with.

ahhh shit, your messages were deleted. someone is a little too trigger happy.

[EstimatedProphet]

14. It isn't fake

The Magistrate always approaches his discussions with the intent of being civil and polite. He always tries to keep civil discourse.
Perhaps you don't agree with him, but that's no reason to attack him.

[Must_B_Free]

15. its a tribute to samuel clemens

he told me so once, something to the effect of admiring his style. So it is something that he "puts on", it's a borrowed personality.

I do think he is a good debater and certainly doesnt allow you to rest your point on crap. Definitely an asset.

[The Magistrate]

18. That, Sir, Outruns The Available Evidence

[Must_B_Free]

20. Yeah, I just made it up

you don't sound anything like Mark Twain. And you're really not an annoyance.

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