Some UK front pages this morning (graphics)

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[Maddy McCall]

1. How many died? 37? 52? 53?

Hope it's the lower figure. :cry:

[Erika]

2. Bush's product of the WOT n/t

[mr blur]

3. I'm afraid that 53

seems to be the final figure

[BlakeB]

4. Last I heard it was...

still 37. Of course I turned it coverage of it about an hour ago. I talked to the friend of mine in London and he said they were very prepared for the attack and have had massive drills. He also said that people here in the states seemed more upset and worried about it than the majority of people in England.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. People in the states are not used t o this

and yes you can get used to this

Personally I am not looking forwards to Comic Con, as I will take the trolley and people will act weird and nervous with all the crap I have to take to the con

;-)

Me, worry? give me a break... if and when the time comes, there is nothing I can do about it... but our gov'ment will use all to scare the locals, effectively I must add

[BlakeB]

6. Hehe.

We love you, England!

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. I'm not in the UK, far from it

But used to be a medic in the front lines of the war on drugs, trust me, you learn to live with the fear... even in the US

[Lorien]

7. My neighbors, recent transplants from London

seemed unfazed this morning (and evening too). I'm still baffled and quite angry at American's reactions to 9/11. I watched the second plane hit the towers while I was on the phone with Air France checking on my flight to Norway. I kept trying to find a plane to Norway the rest of the week. Most of my friends were baffled by my willingness to get on a plane, but I was equally baffled by THEIR willingness to give the terrorists exactly what they wanted; change any aspect of your life, allow yourself to be fearful, and the f*ckers win.

One of the friends I was to meet in Norway that day was someone you might know; Jeff Smith, creator of "Bone". He chronicled his reaction the attacks in a book about the day put together by some of America's finest cartoonists.I'm sad to say that his reaction was the opposite of what I was hoping for. :-(

[DaDeacon]

8. Hey i have that book or one like it...

Hey Bone's really cool if you know Jeff tell him great work for me! But let me tell you this is just one more thing. A new reason to fear a new reason to forget and at times like this we must not do either!

[Lorien]

13. Known Jeff for 21 years

he and his wife Vijaya are two of my best buddies. I'll have to dig around the house to try to find a copy of the book. The artist who does "Liberty Meadows" did the cover-that's about all I can remember!

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Well msot people in Europe are far more stoic

about this, but it is the history, what is it, 30+ years for some countries?

Here it will take time and a responsbile government, neither of which we have at the moment

[Lorien]

14. I think the media plays a huge role in that too. n/t

[tenshi816]

11. I was talking to one of my neighbours about this yesterday.

We were still in shock from the morning's events, but the shock was starting to give way to anger and we were in agreement that these attacks wouldn't change the way we go about living our lives. It's just the way people are over here, and it's true that we were bemused at the way people in the States acted after 9/11.

I'm in the north of England, but as far as terrorism is concerned it doesn't matter - terrorists can strike anywhere. The thing is, once you start living like there's one around every corner, then they've won, as you said.

Today my older son got on the train to Leeds, just like he does every other school day. My younger son is playing in a cricket tournament near Leeds with hundreds of other kids. I'm not afraid for either of them. I will leave the house when I want to and my husband is in London today.

Britons are resilient. People here will not hide themselves away.

What you said about the reaction you got from people when you were trying to travel to Norway the week after 9/11 - well, I moved to the UK the week after the US bombed Libya in 1986, and everyone I knew was begging me not to fly because of the threat of terrorists (my flight had so few passengers it was eerie), but to my way of thinking it was the absolute safest time to fly because of the big step-up in airline security at the time. I also flew from London to Atlanta two days after Flight 103 exploded over Scotland in 1988.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Well I will say something that may shock you guys across

the Atlantic, the folks who react the worst come from very small towns in the US, middle America, and as far as you can get from the real targets. The people at the real target cities, they are developing this attitude of we need to live our lives...

Me, I was a medic on the front lines of the war on drugs, and did some stupid manouvers (yes the kind they tell you that either get you killed or earn you a medal... whatever) and ever since, facing death and seeing it close and personal, I live my life... and to hell with the rest of it...but when I go to ComicCon next week, it will be fun I tell you

;-)

[Pacifist Patriot]

22. I think you are right.

I know the plural of anecdote is not data, but in my experience people closest to more likely targets are less fearful than those living in the middle of nowhere.

I was living in metro-NYC September 11, 2001 and knew tons of people who were disappointed the airlines were shut down for so long. Pretty much everyone I knew wanted to carry on. Contrast that with a friend in Idaho and a friend in Alabama who completely shut down in morbid fear. No surprise they also became fervent Bushites.

MA and NY both went blue in 2004 and ID and AL both went red. That should tell us something right there.

[Lorien]

15. I can certainly relate

my plane taxied past the burning remains of a jet that had landed atop a smaller plane at LAX 15 years ago. It was a sobering sight, but I still reminded myself that auto travel is more dangerous. Living in fear isn't living at all, IMHO. And yes, I agree; traveling right after an attack is probably the safest time of all to travel. I even reminded my American friends in Norway of this on the early afternoon of 9/11, but some kind off panic had already gripped them. Bizarre, as they were sitting in a hotel in Bergen at the time. :shrug:

[AuntiBush]

19. We Have So Much To Learn From Our Friends Across the Atlantic

Thank you for your stories. One posted mentioned that "when it's your time," well, it is. And nothing or no one can change that.

Thanks for showing resilience. Your bravery should be noted by our other half. :)

:hi: and so, so sorry for your loss yesterday.

[ghostsofgiants]

18. "More than 50" according to the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1524178,00.html

[T_i_B]

16. From elation yesterday...

...over beating the French to the Olympics in 2012, to this today. Awful really. :-(

[passy]

17. I was in Manchester in 1996 during IRA bomb.

I would have been a lot closer had I not taken longer to get ready that day.
We'd gotten in by bus a few minutes after the explosion, their was broken glass everywhere and I first thought there'd been a riot, even the policeman on the scene was sure what had happened.
I remember the helicopters flying overhead to tell us to evacuate the city center but I don't remember being scared it all seemed so surreal.
It was also in the middle of Euro 96.
Life went on the next day as usual. The city centre was closed off for a long time and now it's all rebuilt and looking swanky.
People did not let it get to them they just carried on. It was a fact of life something they knew was likely to happen. They didn't become paranoid or racist toward Irish people.
I think that will be the biggest difference in the response to these attacks compared to the post 9/11 fear that was instilled in the American people.
Although I must say that seeing those planes crash in those towers non-stop for weeks helps to create an reaffirm the Fear.

[wicket]

20. kicked and nominated

[muriel_volestrangler]

21. At the low end of the market

The Daily Star uses just one word - "Bastards".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4663081.stm

Yes, there is a paper that has less class than The Sun.

[DS1]

23. This one is priceless

The Independent's man in New York says he is flying to London tonight with his 11-year-old daughter. "She'll be afraid," he says. His parting thought: "God damn the terrorists for making our children grow up with all of this."

Tell it to this kid

[SiouxJ]

24. I heard that Oxyrush is out there calling this attack a failure

some failure. He should be ashamed of himself. I doubt these people see it that way.

[ohio_liberal]

25. First photo I've seen of one of the trains

Amazing. :(