Bay Buchanan Smears Clark as "Gay" on CNN

[patmacsf]

Just in (CNN's Inside Politics) ... Bay Buchanan adeptly smeared General Clark as being "ligt in the loafers" on policy. Of course, "light in the loafers" is a commonly used slur by Bay and her generation to accuse a man of being gay. Subliminal code words to the neocons and viewers paying half attention to the discussion.

Knowing the means and ways that neocons slur and slander Democrats will make it harder for them to get away with it.

[doubleplusgood]

1. "light in the loafers"

I think this expression is supposed to mean "not very bright", and not a reflection on his orientation. Of course, how can you rise to commander of NATO in the military meritocracy and not be bright ?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. Light in The Loafers Mean Gay

in freeper parlance....

[doubleplusgood]

7. I stand corrected

you're all right about it being the the gay reference.

[Cha]

12. "light in the loafers" has been around since the '60's and not

just in "freeper parlance" to me gay...No big deal!

[Clark Can WIN]

3. No it means gay

to the over 50-60 crowd around here and the younger ones all grew up hearing it from uncles, grandparents, etc.

Definately a gay slur.

[jumptheshadow]

4. No, it means gay

They are trying to equate his criticism of the war to their perverse view on "weakness."

[Clark Can WIN]

9. I call jinx.

:hi:

[Mairead]

5. No, 'light in the loafers' is old slang for 'gay man'

It's not used about dykes.

[ieoeja]

18. Would they be "heavy on the heels" then?

[JohnKleeb]

19. got me

:shrug:

[QC]

20. I believe "sensible shoes" is the phrase you're looking for.

;-)

[Mairead]

38. Yes. 'Women in sensible shoes'

:evilgrin:

[patmacsf]

6. Let's go to the dictionary for the real meaning ...

: LIGHT IN THE LOAFERS – “light-footed – pertaining to a homosexual male. Cf. ‘light’ (sense 1). Light on his feet. (U.S. slang, 1900s.) light – 1. lewd; wanton (numerous writings attest since the 1300s)…”
: From “Slang and Euphemism: A Dictionary of Oaths, Curses, Insults, Ethnic Slurs, Sexual Slang and Metaphor, Drug Talk, College Lingo and Related Matters” by Richard A. Spears (New American Library, Penguin Putnam, New York, Third Edition, 2001).

: light in the loafers – or light on one’s feet – (of men) effeminate or homosexual. 1967 DAS (Dictionary of American Speech)(Supp.) Lightfooted…Homosexual. Fairly common since c1955…”
: From “Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang, Volume 2, H-O, by J.E. Lighter, Random House, New York, 1997.”

[ObaMania]

13. No, I'm with patmacsf on this one.

Definitely a subliminable message to Neocons and homophobes.

I don't think she's that stupid to use such a term. There are lots of things she can say to mean not very bright. But light in the loafers is not one.

NO ONE hates gays more than rePukes... which makes me wonder why the Log Cabin Republicans haven't been clued in? Think they'll pick up on this?

JMO from the guy driving with the top down, a beer short of a six-pack, who's not the brightest light on the street, one bean short of a burrito, a sandwich short of a picnic...

[Andy_Stephenson]

8. Well G Dubya is

light in his loafers. Fer chrissakes he was a cheerleader.

[ObaMania]

15. That's cuz he's too stupid...

.. and too much of a wimp to do anything that a err, "real man" would do!

Sorry if I offended anyone.

[JohnKleeb]

16. hey so was my grandfather

:cry: cant call him that because if that were the case I wouldnt be here right now. This was in the 30's and he was a much better man than shrub ever will.

[ObaMania]

22. Your Grandpa only signed up ..

.. to meet a babe to practice making you! Which IMO, is respectible. DumbshitYa did it because he thought cheerleading meant being the head guy yelling racial slurs at minorities and cutting on non-trustfund babies outside of the security of his nazi and terrorist money financed edumacational institution.

:toast:

[JohnKleeb]

37. lol

Actually I think he was dating my nana while he was at Pitt. We called him big dad. He was a great guy tried to be fair, he was a labor abriator and a lifelong dem with his eye out for the little guy.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

10. wow, they are desparate

Clark is scaring the shite out of the Freepers - that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. I'm Impessed

None of the other candidates got that kind of attention...

That's 10 X better than "French looking"...

[JohnKleeb]

17. Jon Stewart has some stuff for DK

I joke around about that but I am raged when people say hes too "ugly" to win.

[edzontar]

14. Bay is a she-bitch....and a bit Bullish to boot

If you ask me.

She lookes like an undernourished version of her brother, in drag and a VERY unconvincing blonde fright-wig.

All she needs is a pointed hat and a broomstick.

:puke:

[LiberalVoice]

21. and a flannel shirt.

[grasswire]

24. not as smart as Pat...

...and she lies. Flat out lies.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

49. and a mullet?

:shrug:

[Bozita]

23. Clark is a Dem. So he must be gay or maybe a pedophile.

Remember Scott Ritter.

Repugs scare me.

[LynneSin]

25. Is this Bay Buchanon??

Maybe if she wasn't so fucking hateful she wouldn't look so dried and shrivelled up. Frowning creates wrinkles faster than smiling.

[patmacsf]

31. Yup, that's the homophobe ....

... hate is a terrible thing.

[CO Liberal]

26. And Bay is "Light In The Headband"....

Just like her asshole brother.......

[Cocoa]

27. I was wondering if there was speculation about that

has anyone heard this before?

[patmacsf]

30. Absolutely not ...

There's no question that General Clark is not gay. But, it doesn't prevent the ilk of Bay Buchanan and CNN from allowing coded messages to the right wing homophobes to slip into their reporting in order to leave that impression.

Wake up, this is how stupid questioning of the candidates gets started! Educate yourself on the disinformation and propoganda techniques of the right wing!

[JI7]

28. what's wrong with being gay ?

i don't care whether clark, kerry,d ean, or whoever is gay or not.

[Creideiki]

32. Yes, but you're not repuke

To them, being gay is the worst possible thing that could happen to you, and people that cause their children to be gay should be ashamed. We've had our last gay president for quite some time.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

50. Kerry and Dean are gay, too?!

[JI7]

55. maybe they are

maybe not. but i don't care either way.

[bmbmd]

29. She just means

that General Clark is not quite as macho as she is....

[kskiska]

33. That term was used to describe Lindsey Graham here in SC

A state politician used it when Graham announced for Strom's Senate seat. He later backed off saying he only meant that Lindsey wasn't big enough to fill Strom's shoes.

[arwalden]

44. I've ALWAYS Thought That Lindsey Graham Was Closeted...

... but that's just my opinion. He may or may not be. It's none of my business UNLESS he starts using his position of power to ATTACK and LEGISLATE against gays and lesbians.

Other than that... he's free to remain closeted as long as he wants.

-- Allen

[ComerPerro]

34. well, how else do you expect them to appeal to the lowest common denominat

denominator?

[davidinalameda]

35. what do you expect from someone like her

she's just her brother without the charm and wit

[cally]

36. I wonder if Clark expected that attack

i'm just laughing. It's so pathetic and predictable. They can't use traitor or unpatriotic so they resort to calling someone gay. Sheesh. Get past second grade already.

I hope this strengthens Clark's support of Gays and Lesbians. This gay bashing is so transperent and reeks of desperation.

[Terwilliger]

39. that's a smear?

do gay DUers think that that is a smear?

[jonnyblitz]

43. i was wondering how many posts before someone noticed

what was implied by the initial post. Everytime I have pointed out this sort of thing in the past I have been piled on so I chose to wait until somebody else brought it up. Apparently being called gay is a smear in the eyes of most. Very sad.

[MuseRider]

47. I got killed with that one too.

This can be a difficult issue, why I am not sure, possibly because people can't express what they are trying to say adequately in this medium. (did that make sense?) Being gay is not an insult, being called gay is not an insult but refering to something bad in the same sentence as refering it to the gay society is an insult to gays, not an insult to what they were refering to. HA! Even I can't make much sense while trying to be sensitive.

[prolesunited]

51. I don't think it's a smear

and most of the people here don't think it is either. However, you have to look at the intended audience she was directing this message at.

For us here, saying someone is gay is like so what? :shrug: But for the fundies and freepers that she wants to reach, it IS considered an insult (sorry to say, but true). Think of how much time and effort they spend on attacking gays and protesting against the "homosexual agenda."

A lot of Repugs are definitely disenchanted with Bush right now. They might gravitate toward Clark because he is seen as a strong military man. If they start insinuating he's gay, that will certainly send any possible wafflers scurrying back to Bush. Well, Bush may be screwing up the world and the U.S. economy, but at least he's not gay. :eyes:

This is just my analysis of this situation. It's not right or fair or enlightened, but it is the reality that we are trying to change.

[MuseRider]

46. I am not a gay DUer

and being compared to a gay person is anything but an insult in my eyes. However, using terminology that refers to a segment of our society as a slam is offensive. Not that it is gay but that is denies dignity to that segment of society.

[AntiCoup2K4]

54. Gay DUers aren't Bay Buchanan's intended audience

The right wing Busheep are. And to them the prospect of a "gay" President is the most frightening thing imaginable. So yes, it was a smear.

[arwalden]

40. She's A Whore....

She wants to be the next Coulter. She is disgusting!

-- Allen

[leetrisck]

41. Thought Laura bush said "Slimy Shrub"

was gay.

[MuseRider]

42. Looks like it is time to send mail to CNN.

This is bullshit. It is an attack on more than Clark and most human beings should be terribly offended by this. I'll tell you one thing, I would rather be called "light in the loafers" than light in the cerebral cortex like Bush* and apparently CNN are.

[Julien Sorel]

45. I think you nailed it.

This issue is bigger than Clark.

[Squibbie]

48. Compilation of Right Wing Code Words and Phrases

Is there a place where I could find a compilation of right wing code words and phrases and their nefarious meanings? Bwahahaha.

[FredScuttle]

52. Well....

Bay Buchanan looks like she fell out of the ugly tree and hit every goddamn branch on the way down.

[Donna Zen]

53. Bay_Bay_Bay!

We know it's hard.....oops wrong word

We know you have difficulty when you see the General with Gert, but honestly, name calling is not the answer. Accept it! You're just not his type; and those dreams you are currently enduring won't make it so.