Fred Grady needs to beg for forgiveness!

[sabra]

<<SNIP>>
http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0527/050706_news_andy.php

Fred Grady, an accountant from Stanton, Neb., straddles both groups. He pays for a site called Scamdy.com that alleges Stephenson defrauded people. He learned of the controversy through a conservative Web site, Free Republic (www.freerepublic.com), that has an ongoing flame war with Democratic Underground. He is also very concerned that Stephenson's fund-raising was not done properly.

<</SNIP>>

[wakeme2008]

1. Being a right wing nut job means you never have to say you

are sorry...:grr:

[RandomKoolzip]

2. Fred Grady: I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

What you did to Andy was tantamount to murder. You knew Andy was telling the truth, but you were creaming in your pants at the oppurtunity to kill a real, live liberal.

Terminal cancer would be too lenient a punishment for you.

[alarimer]

31. These people are unbelievable

I was astonished as the story was developing that anyone would have the nerve to do this. Typical right-winger behavior though. They should be held accountable.

[shrike]

44. I'd throw gasoline and an extra match n/t

[CatWoman]

3. kick

:kick:

this needs to stay at the top of the page

[dogday]

4. Can we get an address and phone

and an email address on this filth?

[sabra]

5. from whois

Domain name: scamdy.com

Registrant:
Jason Tonks (HCPKL) [e-mail]
453
washington, dc 27443
United States
Phone: [phone]

[GiovanniC]

6. All Fake

No Address Except "453"
No Such Zip Code as 27443 -- Not In DC, Not ANYWHERE in US
No Such Area Code as (555) -- Not In DC, Not ANYWHERE in US

[sabra]

7. yep, I am really suprised (not)

maybe the email is legit?

[GiovanniC]

18. Not Sure About the Email

But the name ("Tonks") is based on the name of the cat at Plan 9 Publishing, the company run by David Allen (Kelvin Mace on this site).

http://plan9publishing.com/sunshop/
(scroll down about 1/3 to the heading "Contact Info")

I don't mean to speak out of turn, but David Allen and Plan 9 were very much involved in all of the BBV goings-on with Bev Harris and Andy.

[tavalon]

37. And they were on the side of Andy

They got screwed by BBV, too, you know.

[EFerrari]

38. David and Andy were both VICTIMIZED by Bev Harris

the Discredited. So yes, in that sense, they were part of it.

And I can see how that happened to Andy. In that way, Andy and I are a lot a like. We assume the best of people until they prove other wise. Something Bev Harris has amply proved.

[GiovanniC]

39. That's What I Meant

On rereading it appears that I'm saying David Allen and Plan 9 were responsible for some of it... that wasn't what I meant. I meant they were targets of the same vitriol.

[EFerrari]

40. Don't mind me. I have no brain.

Sorry. :(

[question everything]

42. The software is provided by

http://www.phpbb.com/ whether this may help

What a vile webpage, dedicated just to smear Andy and everyone on DU who tried to help

We really should not read any of the posts and contribute to the counts of views

[blogslut]

69. phpBB

is just message board software. They sell to all. They don't have an agenda. Hell, DU could be run on phpBB.

[PleadTheFirst]

9. Typical Freeper POS Coward.

Fake names, fake addresses, fake phone numbers.

I hope you savored smearing a good man's name, you bastard.

I also hope you die alone, unmourned and unloved.

[Stephanie]

15. Totally fake -

there is no 555 prefix - they put that fake registration up after David made him take down the previous fake registration that they put under his name! The most cowardly of cowards is Fred Grady. He is shaking in his boots now.

[Maraya1969]

43. Stanton Nebraska? He is an accountant for the city?

"Stanton Neb" which is supposed to be the accounting firm he works at. Nothing.


I would love to show his employer what he does in his spare time.

[Name removed]

8. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[insane_cratic_gal]

12. Now go fill out every

thing you can with his name and address.

Maybe the telemarketers will harass the hell out of him for us.
Fill out home loan quotes ...refiance quotes..

[fishnfla]

16. I dont think the telephone is going to bug him

I understand he is hearing impaired. deaf from birth, his mom probably had syphilus

[Mixxster]

28. This guy and his actions are vile and inhuman.

However, comments like that make us look as crass as the freepers.

[Stephanie]

17. not a good idea to harrass him now

please let law enforcement take a look at it first without complicating the case with retaliatory harrassment.

[acmejack]

10. Extraordinary rendition is called for in this case.

Get the water boiling we have a customer. What a low life scum.

[redqueen]

11. .

:kick:

[Solly Mack]

13. I'm sure Stanton, Nebraska has newspapers. (LTTE time)

Just a thought

Stanton Register


http://www.inetnebr.com/news/nebpapers.html


Stanton Register P.O. Box 719 68779-0719 402-439-2173

[sabra]

14. hopefully seatleweekly will do a follow up story.

[BeHereNow]

20. I called the Seattle Weekly reporter to suggest that very thing.

The story is not over in people's minds who loved Andy.
It is just beginning.
The truth will be revealed.
One way or another, if not by the Seattle Weekly,
another news source.
I do believe Will is on it and I know he is more than capable
of telling the truth.
Let the light shine on those who cower in shame
for the darkness of their deeds against our beautiful Andy.
BHN

[RebelOne]

19. Check out this site. If you know his e-mail address,

you can flood him with spam.

http://www.toastedspam.com/freespamlist

[Kelvin Mace]

65. Not advisable

Whatever is doen should be completely legal, otherswise we fall to their level.

[BeHereNow]

21. Fred Grady:

What will you say when you meet the maker?
BHN

[emcguffie]

22. I have a question about Andy.

Did anybody KNOW he was dying? I mean, on DU?

Or was that -- as is most likely the case -- the reason the family asked for privacy?

I just had no idea, and am very upset.

[EFerrari]

24. We had fears. But, since his condition changed SO often

I think only the doctors really knew.

I bet you're upset. We all are upset.

:hug:

[Kelvin Mace]

66. Pancreatic cancer

is a pretty grim diagnosis to start with. When Andy was first subjected to attacks about his diagnosis, he sent me bills with diagnostics laid out. I checked with several friends of my including a retired ICU/hospice nurse (lots of oncology background). She confirmed the procedures as involving PC and told me the prognosis was quite poor.

I never said this publicly and never mentioned it to Andy. I just hoped...

[Mandate My Ass]

23. OMG, I am stunned!

I wasn't posting that much after the rumor mill started because I found it tasteless and ugly but I had NO idea somebody would sink to this.

The word 'evil' is bandied about a lot nowadays and I've stopped using it but this filth qualifies for EVIL.

Who, or perhaps what on earth would undermine the last-hope surgery of a dying man? :grr:

[johannes1984]

25. all that mofo does

is put emphasis on the different beings we are .His nasty dispicable nature will serve nothing , he is nothing , whilst andy , well it seems he was one of those gentle people .Those people that no matter how fucked it all is and gets , gives you hope .

here I sit in a room , in a medieval city somewhere in italy , and i feel but sadness for someone i never knew .I feel such because this man spend his days on earth trying to promote what he believed in , hope and enduring humanity .When that grady fuck drops dead no one will give a hoot , not because he was evil or because he was dumb , but because he was contained within his life .He lived it and snuffed it .Andy on the other hand stood for something much bigger than life , much bigger than words .

why do the good always die young?

[sabra]

26. welcome to DU, johannes1984

[johannes1984]

27. thanks , always nice to be welcomed

[CatWoman]

30. well, let me make it a double

:hi:

welcome to DU :D

[myrna minx]

29. Welcome to DU, johannes1984.

:hi:
Andy did stand for something that is bigger than life, much bigger than words. Andy stood for truth and justice. We truly have lost a champion today. :cry:

[Mandate My Ass]

32. So you're in "old Europe"

Welcome, johannes. :hi:

[mogster]

33. Welcome to the DU!

And thank you for posting your thoughts :toast:

[johannes1984]

34. thank you i'm humbled and happy

again piercing evidence of the fact americans are the nicest people around , except for those who call themself neo-cons that is of course .

Also one more sidenote ,... here in old europe , and i have lived in seven of it's nations , very few people hold any hatred for america .It's so awfull to hear us getting tagged as america-haters while most of us , or at least most of the young people have the grass is greener syndrome .I lived in the US for most of my childhood , and after having passed trough the INS or TSA parts of Dulles , JFK or ORd , I always feel nearly exuberant to be back . :)

[emdee]

35. What gives them the right?

What makes them think that they had the right to insert themselves into this situation? What mind-frame justifies the actions they took? It makes no sense to me. I've been to the Scamdy website and read some of the threads at FR and it really stumps me that they actually think they have this right to interfere with the lives of others in this manner.

A relative of mine was victimized by a small group of conservatives on a different message board that I frequent. She could have lost her job because these people snooped into her life --- all because they have a differing political opinion.

It makes no sense and, yes, this Fred Grady -along with all of the others- should publicly apologize. But, even an apology seems so small compared to what they did.

emdee

[bettyellen]

36. he's not the only one. all those who engaged in baseless speculation

for instance --comparing it to gastritis-- ought to take thier heads out of their asses and aplogise as well. but of course they won't have the balls to admit their mistake.
and i'm being charitable in using the word mistake.

[lala_rawraw]

41. Fredrick is the tool...

We know who the site owner is/was, where his cell phone comes from (different state), his "other occupation"... we know a great deal. We all decided not to discuss this until AFTER everything is done. And yes, while they still doubt that anyone actually filed a case with the FBI, let me assure them (as they tend to spend more time here than in their own skins) that aside from civil action, there is grounds for criminal action here based on several factors, not the least of which were the calls made that had the Paypal funds frozen, misrepresenting a hospital, stalking, harassment, and a few more interesting ones.

So let's give Andy time to be remembered for just a bit longer before we pick this up again.

[sabra]

48. Lala, you are right, I am sorry.... there is time in the future for this

to be taken care of.

[Kingshakabobo]

50. Don't forget to go after his license if he is an accountant.

If he IS a CPA he is held to a higher standard.

[Cocoa]

45. revenge won't bring back Andy

this is sick, in case you don't realize it.

I don't care how many people are doing it, it's MASS sickness.

[bettyellen]

46. apologies would be appropriate however and that's the subject of the

OP.
maybe you were addressing a different post.

[sabra]

49. declaring that the owner of Scamdy.com should say he is sorry?

[Oversea Visitor]

51. Revenge

No Justice

Malicious intention to deny a person in a dead threatening condition leading to the dead of a person.

Andy is dead.
Their action directly resulted in the delay of treatments for Andy.
This is malicious intent, negligent to check the truth before say action is no defense.

Their action was 1) to stop Andy getting the financial help
2) to call Paypal with false info to stop or delay
payment

I will be very surprise if PayPal don't make a legal stand on this.
PayPal has been misrepresented to. And they better take some action.

[Mr.Green93]

52. Your post is needlessly inflammatory

and total B.S.

[Oversea Visitor]

53. I am so sorry

I live in Malaysia just half way across the world.
Guess I do not know my facts
I bow before your superior knowledge of what did happen

Inflammatory ? Bullshit ? Think you should talk to Will Pitt

[merh]

56. And you know that the post is BS how?

I'm not certain I understand where you have acquired your facts that you can so blatantly make such a statement. It appears to me that the post contains facts. What facts do you have that are different and what are your sources?

[merh]

54. You are entitled to your opinion.

And the others are entitled to their opinion, which I perceive as expecting an apology from grady. This is not mass hysteria or an illness, this is a shared moral outrage. That you have trouble perceiving that is something you may want to reflect upon.

[goodboy]

55. whatever.

on edit: just the other day I asked you if you thought this was all a scam.

you didn't answer, and that says a lot.

[johnfunk]

60. This is about JUsTICE, not revenge

At the very least, a careful look should be taken at whether or not FReeper Fred is culpable in the matter of both civil AND criminal charges.

He was surely an accessory to Andy's hastened death at the very least.

One other point: if you want to demolish the FReepers' support for a 'culture of life,' the hastened death of Andy trumps any and all support for keeping Terri Schiavo 'alive' .

[kimpossible]

47. I never knew it was done so deliberately

When the paypal thing came up I was worried about the delay in his treatment. But never in my darkest dreams did I imagine that somebody could be so cold as to scam the hospital funds away from a critically ill man. What scum.

[adolfo]

57. What assholes

Since their domain registrant information is false the domain can be suspended or revoked. Lets see how long their web site remains online.

[RetroLounge]

58. Fred Grady needs to beg for Mercy...

rather...

RL

[adolfo]

59. REPORT THEM HERE

http://wdprs.internic.net/

[BornLeft]

61. done. n/t

[johnfunk]

62. Bump! FReeper Fred hasa some 'splainin' to do

n/t

[goodboy]

63. Among his many alias's He's also "adminF" at the scumdy.com site

and he's bragged before about the troll accounts he has here at DU.

1000+ post troll accounts.

[Generic Other]

64. That's gross and disgusting

I'm sorry to hear that.

[Kelvin Mace]

67. They are in the image of their god, George Bush

Callous, sociopaths with ZERO empathy. Look at how Bush smiles when discussing death. He thinks it is funny. Remember Karla Fay Tucker? Remember killing frogs with firecrackers? Remember shooting his brothers with BB guns?

If he wasn't in politics, he would be referred to as "George Walker Bush" in the same context as when we speak of "John Wayne Gacy".

Of course, he is a serial killer, it's just that he has managed to make it legal.

[Bethany Rockafella]

68. To the people involved in slandering Andy Stephenson....

How is your conscience? I'll bet you are damn near trying to say or do anything to convince yourself that you did nothing wrong. You guys should be pitied!