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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:01 PM
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Woodward to Tweety: Fuck Fitz
That fucking shill Woodward is on Tweety's show trashing Fitzgerald for jailing Miller. Tweety, shitbag that he is, even brought up the word "crime" and Woodward sticks to his meme that Miller didn't write a story and therefore sahouldn't have gone to jail.

Hey Bob, your best work is behind ya, bub. You're nothing but a has been living on a rep. Too bad you couldn't be like your former partner, Carl.

Go have lunch with Novak, you rat fucker.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:06 PM
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1. Woodward is just jealous
that Fitz is going to expose the new Watergate. Up yours, Bob!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:12 PM
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17. This is bigger than watergate! I don't mean to diminish the actions of
Nixon et al but once the heads start rolling, I believe we will hear crimes of the magnitude that Nixon never dreamed of!
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:14 PM
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20. Damn right!
I can hardly wait!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:32 PM
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24. It's definetly
1000x Dirtier than Watergate..let's hope it get BIGGER!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:07 PM
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2. Can you believe it?...One of the
reporter's who broke the Watergate story is a freakin' shrill shill for the bushit regime?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:15 PM
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6. he's CIA, has been (maybe) since before Watergate
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 07:20 PM by librechik
that's his true assignment, not what he wants you to believe. He can be trusted--up to a point.

If he were as sharp now as he was then, he would be jumping on the "expose Karl's crimes" bandwagon, wouldn't he?

This whole misleading "Judith as martyr for 1st amendment rights" really burns me up. Do these people even understand the spirit of the law?


PROTECT THE WEAK AGAINST THE RETALIATION OF THE POWERFUL!!!

Get it, Bob? Maybe not, you have always been too close to the seat of power.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:31 PM
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13. Sounds like
"Distraction" to me. Smoke and mirrors.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:13 PM
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18. No, He's not.
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 08:13 PM by H2O Man
And he never has been "CIA."
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:23 PM
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21. so, why does he no longer protect the weak against the powerful?
It used to be on his agenda. Now he wants to help Judith (at a rival paper, no less, and also long rumored to be CIA) and Rove keep their jobs? In his books, Woodward often withholds enough of the truth to mislead. He carries water for Bush, a war criminal. Of course, I (along with many others) only guess he is CIA. I'm not in a position to know for sure, almost no one would be. What makes you so sure he is not?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:27 PM
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23. Mr. Woodward
is absolutely an intelligence worker. But there is a big, wide world out there. Everything isn't "CIA." And he wasn't, and isn't. Don't limit the options. Where did he meet Felt?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:41 PM
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25. I see--thought it might be something like that!
:pals:

I adore Felt. He is my hero--ever since he said he did what he did because he thought NixCorp were "Nazis"

Now that's intelligence!

:patriot:

oh how I hate Nazis!

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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:18 PM
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8. Just bear in mind that Woodward worked for naval intelligence
(i.e. was a spook) before he was a reporter.

And the paper he went to work for after his stint in the Navy, The Washington Post, was connected at the hip with the CIA through Project Mockingbird (the largely successful attempt by the CIA to place operatives in the US media). So don't be surprised if Woodward has other agendas on his plate besides telling the plane unvarnished truth to his readers.

Secret admirers: The Bushes and the Washington Post

By Michael Hasty
Online Journal Contributing Writer

<snip>

In an article published by the media watchdog group, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR), Henwood traced the Post's Establishment connections to Eugene Meyer, who took control of the Post in 1933. Meyer transferred ownership to his daughter Katharine and her husband, Philip Graham, after World War II, when he was appointed by Harry Truman to serve as the first president of the World Bank. A lifelong Republican, Meyer had been "a Wall Street banker, director of President Wilson's War Finance Corporation, a governor of the Federal Reserve, and director of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation," Henwood wrote.

Philip Graham, Meyer's successor, had been in military intelligence during the war. When he became the Post's publisher, he continued to have close contact with his fellow upper-class intelligence veterans—now making policy at the newly formed CIA—and actively promoted the CIA's goals in his newspaper. The incestuous relationship between the Post and the intelligence community even extended to its hiring practices. Watergate-era editor Ben Bradlee also had an intelligence background; and before he became a journalist, reporter Bob Woodward was an officer in Naval Intelligence. In a 1977 article in Rolling Stone magazine about CIA influence in American media, Woodward's partner, Carl Bernstein, quoted this from a CIA official: "It was widely known that Phil Graham was somebody you could get help from." Graham has been identified by some investigators as the main contact in Project Mockingbird, the CIA program to infiltrate domestic American media. In her autobiography, Katherine Graham described how her husband worked overtime at the Post during the Bay of Pigs operation to protect the reputations of his friends from Yale who had organized the ill-fated venture.

After Graham committed suicide, and his widow Katharine assumed the role of publisher, she continued her husband's policies of supporting the efforts of the intelligence community in advancing the foreign policy and economic agenda of the nation's ruling elites. In a retrospective column written after her own death last year, FAIR analyst Norman Solomon wrote, "Her newspaper mainly functioned as a helpmate to the war-makers in the White House, State Department and Pentagon." It accomplished this function (and continues to do so) using all the classic propaganda techniques of evasion, confusion, misdirection, targeted emphasis, disinformation, secrecy, omission of important facts, and selective leaks.


http://www.onlinejournal.com/Media/020504Hasty/020504hasty.html
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:25 PM
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11. excelent post. that about sums it up
:applause:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:29 PM
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12. The washed outpost sure
helped the bushregime, eh?

Thanks for this news & link!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:07 PM
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29. As did
Mr. Felt.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:07 PM
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16. Sad sad sad. He's on the wrong side of history now.
It was pretty clear with his book glorifiying the most recent Iraq war...
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:09 PM
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3. I doubt if Fitzgerald will lose any sleep over "Woody's" opinion.
Woodward is just bush's lap dog. His glory days are over.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:10 PM
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4. So let me get this straight
If a witness is called to the stand and asked a question under oath, she can say "I didn't commit a crime so I am not answering" or "I didn't write a story so I am not answering" and not be held in contempt? These people all know that this focus on "free speech" and a "chilling effect" is bullshit, but it does beat talking about anything of substance.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:15 PM
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5. Woodward is not a judge or prposecurot on this case
so he doesn't necessarily have all the facts, does he.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:16 PM
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7. But regarding Nixon in a previous segment he said:
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 07:17 PM by eleny
"You don't break the law to get even."

Woodward needs to make up his damned mind.



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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:18 PM
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9. What does "a story" have to do with the price of oranges in China?
She was ordered by the court to give up some information. She refused.
"Stories" don't enter into it!
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ScamUSA.Com Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:21 PM
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10. why does Woodward look like he's related to Bill Kristol
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 07:57 PM
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14. Separated at birth
I always thought that too.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:01 PM
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15. Oh shut up Woodward!
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 08:12 PM by Independent_Liberal
Fitzgerald is only doing his job. It's nothing to piss and moan about. Am I right?
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:14 PM
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19. Why do you call Mathews Tweety?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:48 PM
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26. Big head, et cetera, like Tweety Bird.
See the resemblance now? :)
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:20 AM
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31. I thought as much, I loved it when they used to do him on SNL
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:24 PM
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22. He needs to take a ticket and get in line
I've been on vacation but whenever I could flip on the news I kept hearing one whore after another literally say that this "CIA leak thing" was no big deal. They moan that it wasn't like a whistleblower talking about a defective nuke plant, etc. Well, besides the fact that it's against the law and that people trying to get all the neat terrorist info (that we keep claiming we get all fucked up) get exposed and lose their lives, there's also the fact that this goddamn thing had nothing to do with outing someone doing wrong. It was acting as the KKK or KKKarl and the boys to politically promote the lying little scumbag and sink any Dem nominee. They weren't 'breaking news' - they were Hitler's propaganda arm.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:51 PM
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27. Don'cha know? "Some Say" Woodward is an operative/assett
He was on Fresh Air yesterday, and he just made me sick. And I'm not talking about the Plame story.

I was sickened over his remarks on the DSM. He flat out stated that there was nothing to the story that Bush and Blair began the war or planned the war in July 2002.

He discredited the downing street memo - so you decide who he is working for - the very system he derides and portends to expose for corruption and secrecy.

Listen to it for yourselves. npr fresh air with terry gross on 7/07/05. (all those shows are archived)

www.freshair.org


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 09:00 PM
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28. Woodward said there was no story in Enron. Couldn't find a damn thing
to hang on his hat on in IranContra or BCCI, either.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 10:29 PM
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30. Woodward ........ is ..........
.... an 'insider'. All the rest is pure speculation. He's just fat and comfortable. A superstar. Running on his now tarnished reputation. But he's old enough and has had a good enough life that he just plain doesn't give a shit.

Finger in the wind ....
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