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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:45 PM Original message |
Judith Miller: "Can't talk. Government is too powerful." |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. How did it get that way Judith? |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Yeah, really! Gee, you mean when you aid fascists, you can get screwed? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. "Government" needs more of a definition. |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. No shit they're the government. The WH, the Congress, et al. |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
62. Good point. n/t |
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cestpaspossible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
71. Judith Miller is known the world over as a liar. |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. That, and her habit of sleeping with her sources, and her absolutely |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
3. Am I the only one who missed this? |
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DisassemblingHisLies (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. She really is in a no-win situation. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Oh, my heart bleeds for her |
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dissent1977 (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
48. I am no fan of Judy Miller either, but do you realize what this means? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
79. Or she is making shit up |
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DisassemblingHisLies (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
49. I don't have any sympathies for her, either. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Maybe she is looking for immunity!!! |
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DisassemblingHisLies (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. That's been mentioned by someone, too. |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
63. Can you fill me in on the charity case? How did she ruin it? nt |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. She meant government in the larger, abstract sense |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. and now the martyrdom sets in n/t |
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DisassemblingHisLies (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 01:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
52. Martyrdom? |
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DisassemblingHisLies (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
5. Wow. That's a powerful quote. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Yes It Is! My jaw dropped. wtf??? |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Yeah, and I'm afraid of what SHE's done to US in concert w/govt |
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DisassemblingHisLies (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 01:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
54. To repeat *myself*: Look at the big picture. |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
7. Judy, Judy...when you lie with the dogs.... |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
8. That snake! She's playing Rove's game... |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. She's been such an insider -- and knows so much -- |
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Gay Green (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Jail may be preferable for Judith... |
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DisassemblingHisLies (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Bingo. |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Exactly! We were just sleeping |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Did anyone ever believe Sirhan Sirhan was behind anything? |
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #27 |
66. You'd almost think that things like the Paralax Corporation |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 11:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
69. Now yer talkin'! |
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LiviaOlivia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. Judith Miller: 3 Decades of Disinformation |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. Wow. Excellent background on Miller. |
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DisassemblingHisLies (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 01:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
55. Wow. |
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tandem5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
11. glad to see that quote in another article nt |
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kevsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. I don't think she was talking about her personal safety. |
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DisassemblingHisLies (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. "I'm not talking. The risk is too great." |
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kevsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. It only seems that way when you |
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Nabia2004 (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
80. She's blowing smoke. If she were a threat she would already be dead |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. People don't usually refer to a federal grand jury as "The Government" |
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kevsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. She's not talking about a specific grand jury or prosecutor. |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 11:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Okay, I just read the complete court statement ... |
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kevsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I think you're absolutely right. |
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tinfoilinfor2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 11:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
68. Absolutely. She doesn't fear for her life; |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
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democracyindanger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
17. "Won't talk. I'm directly involved." |
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sojourner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
21. she's a whore. I can't talk about my favorite "john"...he's too powerful! |
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Independent_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
22. Government is too powerful... Hahaha!!! |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
26. Whoah! "...slippery slope that leads to anarchy." |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
28. umm..Judy should have thought about that before granting confidentiality. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. What the hell, she thinks she's safe in prison? No "accident" could be |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Bullshit!!!! |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
61. I don't disagree with you..I think she's playing the victim role too.. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. I read it as her saying she's protecting freedom of the press. BUT - |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Maybe Miller's source was George Tenet ... or John Bolton. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. That's what I think - she knows enough to really cause some damage |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
35. Why not turn this around? Aren't we the government - it's our |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Who is working for whom? |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. The people are the government in Constitutional terms. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
41. Miller's reporting shows she has at most a casual regard for truth |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-05 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
42. For the love of Pete...I DON'T GET THIS WOMAN! |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
45. Her emails will have to speak for her and its only right |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
46. So that's what made her clam up. |
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spooked (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
51. Sounds like A PLEA FOR HELP if you ask me |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #51 |
67. She can't figure out why W |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
53. In court, the prosecutor's side is 'the government' or 'the state'. |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. Yes, I agree with your interpretation |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
77. I agree sort of, I think this is were she is coming from |
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hnsez (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
56. Its time for here to make a sacrifice for the good of the country |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
57. Come on Judy! Grow some balls! |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
58. What she should have said.. |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
59. Give us a break Judy |
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
60. Unless you think this is some super-secret coded message... |
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Ms. Clio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
73. Exactly -- just wishful thinking to read it any other way |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
64. And is that why you help launch this war by your |
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Lecky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
65. I find that a very odd thing for her to say n/t |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
70. You enabled it to be that way, Judith. You are part of the blame. |
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sleipnir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
75. I call BULLSHIT on this one. |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
76. Gee...it didn't stop her from talking before... |
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