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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:21 PM
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Critical information that can tear the Far Right to pieces
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 02:56 PM by ck4829
America is under attack from the Far Right, and it seems as though they are winning.

They are built like an army, their assets are uncountable, the zeal of their 'activists' (soldiers) is comparable with that of 'islamic' Terrorists.

It's impossible to beat them, right? No, they are beatable, and we must defeat them.

There is hope.

First, we must identify what the Far Right is.

I have seen articles, stories, etc.

Pat Robertson: "If Bush touches Jerusalem, we'll form a new party!"

An Article: "Many people in the Christian Right are involved in politics for one reason, abortion."

Countdown last night: "This Terri Schiavo thing is a WEDGE ISSUE."

The Far Right is not a singular group, it is a Conglomerate of groups of people that are very passionate on issues such as abortion, affirmative action, GLBT Rights, etc.

Now I will identify the groups that make up the Far Right. This is the Covenant of real life.

Anti-Liberal - Do not be confused, this is NOT a Conservative. This is rather the type of Conservative that considers Liberals to be traitors (because they oppose them) to the United States. Is willing to accuse Liberals and Progressives of almost anything (being tied to terrorists, hating Bush, trying to make a New World Order, etc.).
Examples: David Horowitz and his ilk.

Neo-Conservative - Once again, do not be fooled by the name. A Neo-Con should actually be called a Militaristic Capitalist. The War on Terra made the 'Neo-Cons' very, very rich. Almost makes you wonder if they wanted 9/11 to happen.
Examples: PNAC, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, etc.

'christian' Rightist - The Grunts of the Far Right. Will believe anything that the Right says. One of those people that worships Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc.

Homophobe - Believes that there is a GLBT Agenda, opposes Hate Crimes legislation, real nice people... not.

Bigot - Believes that our country has a Christian heritage. Gets REAL angry when prayers from other religions are read by people, yet also gets REAL angry when people don't want to read a Christian prayer. Also opposes Science and Evolution.

Israelite - This has very little to do with Judaism or Jewish people. An Israelite is a Far Rightist who promotes 'Greater Israel', or the belief that Israel should take ALL of the holy land, promotes Settlements, opposes the Peace Process, etc.

Overgrown Fetus - Simply put, they are the backbone of the 'christian' Right. They oppose abortion on almost or on ALL grounds.

Overseer - The newest type of Far Rightist. Fortunately, this is also the one that is closest to extinction. Recently, people have been trying to attract minorities into the fold of the RW. They have been using things such as "The Contract with Black America". This caste is dying because it has been noted that those who did not vote for a bill that was a statement against lynching were almost all Republicans.

That's out of the way, now it's time for the organization chart of the Far Right. It will start with the lowest chain, and then go up.

Activists - Freepers, people who attend 'Science is a lie' rallies, etc. We've seen them all
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Shrines - A Shrine is an organizing place for Far Right Activists. This could be a Church, a Church like body (such as Focus on the Family), a website such as WorldNutDaily, you get the idea.
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Mediums - The Nervous System and Tendrils for the Far Right. These are the Funders (such as Scaife) and the Think Tanks.
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The Council for National Policy - This is the brain of the Far Right. The CNP is a secret meeting of these 'Mediums' that I mentioned earlier that happens 3 times a year. If I am right about this, then Morton Blackwell is the King of the Far Right.

Now, it's time for our weapons against the Far Right. The Far Rightists CONTRADICT each other, not compliment them!

I have some suggestions.

1. Push Separation of Church and State as an issue of National Security. Say it will prevent Religious Extremists from influencing the government.

2. Push Bush to the Left. Even if we have to start a whisper campaign saying that Bush is becoming a Liberal, we must do something that will make it seem as though Bush is becoming a Moderate or even a Liberal.

3. Let GLBT people serve in the Military. We must convince Bush and the GOP that this War on Terra should cause this unneeded ban to be lifted.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:29 PM
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1. nice list...but (I could be wrong, here) -- looks like Christian right and
bigot are transposed. Of course I see the overlap, but the distinguishing characteristic between Christian and bigot would be - would it not - the religious overtones of their beliefs? Eg. prayer, evolution, etc. issues that rely on a literal interpretation of the Bible as espoused by Robertson, et al.

bigot - does believe there's a WHITE christian heritage behind the US...hates anyone who is not WHITE christian. Might also be a christian rightist.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:33 PM
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3. Bingo
I had actually planned to write this.

'christian' Rightist - The Grunts of the Far Right. Will believe anything that the Right says. One of those people that worships Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc.

'christian Rightist (Homophobe) - Believes that there is a GLBT Agenda, opposes Hate Crimes legislation, real nice people... not.

'chritian' Rightist (Bigot) - Believes that our country has a Christian heritage. Gets REAL angry when prayers from other religions are read by people, yet also gets REAL angry when people don't want to read a Christian prayer. Also opposes Science and Evolution.

'christian' Rightist (Israelite) - This has very little to do with Judaism or Jewish people. An Israelite is a Far Rightist who promotes 'Greater Israel', or the belief that Israel should take ALL of the holy land, promotes Settlements, opposes the Peace Process, etc.

'christian' Rightist (Overgrown Fetus) - Simply put, they are the backbone of the 'christian' Right. They oppose abortion on almost or on ALL grounds.

'christian' Rightist (Combo) Contains all of these to varying degress, the most RW of them all.
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tecelote Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:33 PM
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2. One way to get Bush removed from office...
Get a bunch of liberals singing his praises.

Without needing any facts or explanation, the right will begin to hate him simply because we seem to like him. He'd be doomed.
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:35 PM
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4. Friendly counters.
1. Too many folks already probably that Jesus and the apostles were the Founding Fathers. So go for a more surgical strike, push for the elimination of tax exemption for all churches; this will separate the truly good ones from the bad. After all, since it's not about money (supposedly), then the good ones will see that their wealth can truly make a difference and, thus, do their fair share.

2. I don't want * over here with us! Push him over there with those scumbag Consoviets; emphasize his far-right zealotry. There already enough confusion about what a liberal is.

3. At this point, I think all gays and lesbians should BOYCOTT the military. It wouldn't surprise me if the numbers were not as negligible as phobes would hope, and with recruitment already dismal, the need for more should suffice in rethinking this nonsense. If the right wants to maintain the ban (either outright or if someone "asks and tells"), then let them put up or shut up come draft time when people choose to come out of a closet (real or faked) in order to get out of having to serve.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:41 PM
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5. Excellent points
My suggestions are just a small amount of what we can do.

As long as it is a way to provoke civil war within the Far Right, you will never receive an argument from me.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:50 PM
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8. #1 would be rejected in a hot second...
why would THEY be interested in doing their "fair share"?
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:47 PM
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17. That's how you'd distinguish the good ones from the bad (or greedy)...
Hey, they may ALL be greedy, who knows? But we've always been told never paint with a broad brush, so I'm trying to give benefit of the doubt (if any is merited).
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BushFungus Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:47 PM
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6. While I can agree with the frustration
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 02:59 PM by BushFungus
I also hesitate to acknowledge the labels getting thrown around. I am weary of all the labels! There are so many these days. I'm confused as to what I am!!

Anyhow, I must be an anomoly because I am a born-again Christian and yet I firmly believe we should all extricate ourselves from these political issues. I have seen it divide the church and wreak havoc. Just pissin' people off ain't cuttin' it anymore, and it sure isn't doing anything for Christianity. That's my opinion, anyhow.

I can tell you that, although they would vehemently deny this, what they REALLY would love to have is a one-party (Republican of course) communist dictatorship run by the tyrant George W. Bush. Ridiculous!

Hey, shhhhhh...I HAVE IMPLEMENTED YOUR #2 SUGGESSTION ON the board called Rapture Ready (http://rr-bb.com). I do firmly believe your point is valid. In fact, I personally believe he is a faker to begin with. I think he learned the "Christian catchphrases" from his Daddy's campaign and, along with Rove's input, implemented it to gain the Christian vote in 2000 and 2004. I'll admit, conservative Christians are, unfortunately, a very gullible bunch.

I made the argument that Bush is really pro-gay (he has said some things to indicate this, and you can also search the White House website about it) and he was the first President to fund stem cell research (he bragged about this during the debates). None of the folks on RR could come up with an argument really, because I showed them the FACTS. So they booted me. It is possible, however, to keep hitting on this point and make an impact.

I predicted before the 2004 elections that if Bush gets reelected, he will turn on the Christian right. And that's what's happening. I bet he will appoint a moderate to the Supremee Court, which of course will piss off the Religious Right.

O8)
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:49 PM
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7. Excellent
We need to do this kind of stuff. Thanks for your help.
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:54 PM
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9. I have no trouble accepting that libs have Christians among them...even
evangelical Christians. What surprises me is how the right-leaning Christians defend their "me first, and to hell with everyone else" attitudes. Or their "bomb the Muslims" rants...don't they think that God will judge and that neither He nor Jesus need THEIR help?

:eyes:
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BushFungus Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:04 PM
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12. It reminds me of when
I heard Tom DeLay proclaim during the Teri Schiavo fiasco, "GOD IS ON OUR SIDE." How presumptuous! It's no wonder people consider them to be so arrogant. We should instead be PRAYING that WE are on HIS side!!

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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:15 PM
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13. amen.........
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sojourner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:55 PM
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10. PS - I love your activism!!!! We need more like you!
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BushFungus Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:01 PM
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11. Thanks!!
:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:30 PM
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14. Self-Kick
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:44 PM
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15. Israelite = Zionist?
It seems that your use of the term Israelist is essentially the same as the definition for Zionist. Did you consider the use of that term? If not, how do they fit into your model?


Thanks for your good work.


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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:47 PM
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16. "Militaristic Capitalist" is just as easily called Fascist.
That's what they are, why keep inventing new terminology to describe them?
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